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I am heavily against this.
First of all, what is a "rightful claim"? What if there's a dispute as to who has one? Gov members of alliances fight all the time. On this note, most active CN players don't post on the OWF with any regularity. How does Admin even know who's prominent in each AA? I'm not sure a master list of nations with seniority would tell the story of who should be able to (re)found an AA.
What if the alliance admin/leader goes on vacation and there are new applicants who don't want to get raided? What if the applicant AA admin/leader is also on vacation?
What if the alliance admin/leader wants to join a different AA? Will there have to be an application to Admin with directions as to who the new guy should be?
Same here. Which problem does this fix? Ghosting doesn't even seem to be a problem, although a big AA member can correct me on this.
You can blow up infra and tech but you can't blow up someone's AA. As long as someone's willing to be perma-warred, that person can be a squatter.
alliance leaders can give other nations power to approve/ban members. they can appoint alliance heirs in case they ever delete. they can make their alliance open to all people if they don't want to be bothered with approving people. also, new nations that set their alliance to one that required approval will still show that alliance under their nation bio, it'll just say "pending" under it.
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The problem is not the effort of typing in one line, but the clusterfuck of organizing a few thousand typings of that line over a freaking month while dealing with the idiots who think they should take advantage of the chaos. It's not worth it for the minor benifit stopping the odd AA hopper or ghosts, the former who can be dealt with by 5 seconds in a query and the latter by a few cruise missles.
This. The new system is superior, unfortunately the planned transition will create more work than the problems its ment to solve ever have.
Says the guy in a thirty member alliance.
30 member or 300 member, whats so hard about sending out notices to your members and asking them to check their nations once a week? i imagine u already have a pre-made list that makes this incredibly quick and easy.
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I agree with Goldie, unless something is put in place to mitigate the transition chaos, it's going to seriously hurt some semi-inactive members. I know in NATO, our activity during war skyrockets, but alot of those people are bill payer/tax collector players in peacetime. It's possible a decent % of our members will be left off the AA for a significant amount of time (though no more than 25 days as Goldie stated)
Maybe the players can implement something amongst themselves, ie. 25 day freeze on Raiding/DoW's?
if alliance leaders start sending out advanced notice now to be on the look out for this change and advance notice when a specific date/time is finally announced, it shouldn't even take anywhere close to 25 days. really that hard to ask even the most inactive members to check in once or twice a week for the next 1-2 months?
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The very-short term annoyance of having to get everyone back onto the alliance should not be a big factor in deciding whether to go through with these changes or not. with plenty of advance notice of a specific time/date that this is going to be implemented, alliances will have ample opportunity to prepare themselves and their membership for the change. they can post announcements on the owf listing who their protected members are, they can add something to their nation bio to reference their alliance membership, etc.
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I had forgotten to congratulate AB, very well done guys!
u can't forget to congratulate something that doesn't exist
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The Samurais of Destruction Accords
PreambleThe Disciples of Destruction and Sengoku, in recognition of their continued friendship and mutual interest, hereby enter this agreement to continue our camaraderie and provide for the defense and prosperity of one another.
Article I- Sovereignty
Each signatory formally recognizes the right of each alliance to exercise ultimate internal authority of their respective alliances.
Article II- Camaraderie
The memberships of each signatory commit to remain civil towards each other at all times, particularly in public channels, but also in private. The signatory alliances and their member states will treat each other with as much respect and decency as they would their own. Healthy debate, constructive criticism are to be encouraged, but both parties are expected to show tact and consideration by going through appropriate channels when addressing concerns.
Article III- Non-Aggression
No member of either signatory may participate in, support or condone military action against a member within the corresponding signatory. If such an incident does happen, the signatories will do what is necessary to ensure that the situation is settled amicably.
Article IV- Espionage and Information
Both
signed alliances agree under no circumstances shall either signatory
alliance engage in espionage against the other. The signatories agree to
share information that they come across that pertains to the other
alliance with the other signatory.
Article V- Military and Financial Assistance
a. Should either signatory become the victim of a unprovoked external aggression, or internal subversion, the corresponding signatory is encouraged, but not obligated to provide assistance, through, but not limited to, military or financial means.
b. Should either signatory initiate conflict or engage in warfare by reason of outside obligation, the corresponding signatory is encouraged, but not obligated, to provide whatever assistance it deems appropriate. The signatories shall share all information pertinent to said war.
Article VI- Amendments
Any amendments to this treaty must be first discussed and agreed upon by the appropriate government officials of each party, and undergo the appropriate processes.
Article VII- Withdrawal
Termination of this pact requires a 72 hours notice. This notice is required to be given firstly via private channels. The grace period may be truncated by mutual agreement of the signatories.
Signed for Sengoku,
Emperor,
hartfw
Shogun,
President SO
Daimyo of Foreign Affairs,
Dcrews
Gingervites
Daimyo of War,bcortell
Daimyo of Internal Affairs,
dockingscheduled
Rōjū,
autosave36
Rogal Dorn
Signed for Disciples of Destruction,The Elders,
Bassman
MrGross
Hormones
The Sword,Malinok
The Voice,
Dragonaspect
The Hand,
Cadieness
The Blessed,
Bomber66
Power
jesse james -
good luck
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when he told me he got his spy nuked, i thought it was a dedicated someone checking on him every second. now that i see it was almost half a minute, pina colada was just being lazy. shame pina!
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good luck to all involved! lets have an enjoyable war with no complaints. just a good ol fashion slugfest.
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congrats and good luck going forward
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may FEAR prosper under this leadership
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The most necessary change for TE is how the prizes are awarded. awarding prizes for highest NS goes against everything TE is suppose to be about. it encourages all the ills that currently plague TE. uneven wars, war dodging, constant bickering on these boards. frankly its what drives so many people away.
change the system to reward the most successful fighters / honorable fighters / constant fighters.....some of type of formula that takes all this into account. might not get this formula right the 1st time, but thats what TE is for, to try new stuff out. just doesn't make sense to me that a nation's final NS is what is used to measure its success.
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Lies,
you knew exactly how it would go down. You guys once bragged about
having dossiers on many AAs do you expect us to believe that you didn't
put considerable thought in your curb stomp of the three of us? In fact
you guys let Citadel buy nukes and hurt their long term growth and hid
behind them. Facts are facts and you guys can make your "paul is
terrible" or "paul is a cry baby", but most everyone in TE knows the
truth. Only difference is that I wear my emotions on my sleeve and let
you know to your face that I think TPC sucks and its gov is full of two
faced, back stabbing individuals.
Edit... And we will never forgive nor forget what you guys did.never let anyone know what you're thinking
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congrats to TJL and their new treaty partner
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thanks for the bump joy
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woo hoo, nice to have it official. one good thing about this past war was getting to find AA's that were good fighters and good peeps.
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much congrats!
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You guys both held your own in the war, congrats on the treaty.
thats a bit of an understatement
:)
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Lumina Sanguis
Sengoku - Aurora Borealis Treaty
Amongst the battered shields and ragged armor, the crimson blood, and the shadow of crows, a light shines. Not an ordinary light, but a striking red beacon illuminating the arena. As the dust settles, we find the red hue to be strewn across us, on the backs of our shirts to the soles of our feet. It is that light that encompasses us, filling every vein and artery with its power until we become one with it. We are the light that shines down unto the land, from the sleepy villages to the decaying battlefields. We are Lumina Sanguis.
Article I: Non-Aggression
The signatories agree to respect their mutual sovereignty and not to engage in espionage or aggressive military, economic, or diplomatic acts toward one another.
Article II: Intelligence and Aid
The signatories shall share all relevant information with one another, and shall provide aid of a financial, informational, or diplomatic nature upon request.
Article III: Defense
Should one signatory come under attack, the other will defend them. Should a signatory initiate or engage in aggressive attacks to honor another treaty, then the obligatory status of this clause becomes void.
Article IV: Optional Aggression
If a signatory engages in hostile activities with another alliance, the other signatory is encouraged but not required to provide military assistance.
Article V: Cancellation
Should one party decide to withdraw from this pact for whatever reason, it may be terminated 48 hours after the other signatory has been notified.
Signed
for Aurora Borealis,Drake Spoke,
Triumvir
Jutopia,
TriumvirSarkin,
TriumvirAce072199,
Elder AdviserThe Evilest Eye,
Elder Adviser
Signed
for Sengoku,
hartfw,
EmperorPresident SO,
Shogun
Dcrews,
Daimyo of Foreign AffairsGingervites,
Daimyo of Foreign Affairsbcortell,
Daiymo of Wardockingscheduled,
Daiymo of Internal Affairsspacecadet,
Daiymo of Developmentautosave36,
Rōjū
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when does the ish talking about your own side's mistakes start?
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Had a nation delete, looking for a replacement. if you're interested, please message me
http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=368975
you'd be assigned sugar/spices.
UPDATE:
accepted someone already, and have a 2nd next in line if that doesnt work out.
thanks for the interest, but i think we're set for now.
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as of the time im posting this, #1 ranked war in destruction is the 1st war that Citadel declared on MH http://tournament.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=2081 :D
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Muscle Hamsters hereby recognize Citadel's recognition of war with Muscle Hamsters and will meet Citadel in the field of battle, missiles at the ready
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[quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1358836151' post='3083339']
I'm not sure if this is a joke or not, but it isn't like our alliance done anything your allies in GOONS done to CSN. Except we didn't make promises to protect TOP after our mutual decision to seek out other paths. It's great that our paths meet again.
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glad they haven't pointed out that Sengoku is made up of omfg/bn nations
XP and Attacks Between Alliances
in Question Center
Posted · Edited by dockingscheduled
The CN team really dropped the ball here. With a brand new in-game feature being introduced and all these "xp farming" wars being declared, would it not have been incredibly more logical to conclude that the rules regarding this new feature probably weren't clear enough? why assume that all these people suddenly decided to intentionally start breaking the rules and go straight to in-game warnings?