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    ----- Announcement of Creation

    in Alliance Politics

    Posted · Edited by Subcomandante Marcoz

    Good luck on the formation of ----- you will find that the black alliances are good team alliances. Stop by our forums sometime to open an embassy, have a chat, or even a political debate:

    http://z4.invisionfree.com/Socialistic_Empire/index.php?

    OOC:(maybe)

    If you are wondering, yes my username is Subcomandante Marcos and as some know I am not an anarchist, I am a Pro-PPSH Marxist-Leninist politically, might be contradicting if you think unless you knew my RL name guess what it is? Ill give ya a hint Starts with M ends with os, rhymes with Ramos. :P:blush:

    Once again Good Luck!

    From the Communist Party

    in Alliance Politics

    Posted · Edited by Subcomandante Marcoz

    Congrats on the elections CPCN, new faces ddnt think FC would have lost since hes been doing pretty good leading the Party to a respectable growth.

    Looks like I am the last of the old guard... :(

    :(

    I know what ya mean, Im the oldest existing Commissar back when Silent, pablo, laura etc. were still around :(

    CPCN - -SE- NAP

    in Alliance Politics

    Posted · Edited by Subcomandante Marcoz

    This is great, good that all the left alliances(NWF, SE, and CPCN) are on good relations, something the past alliances could not really do, this is a good step.

    Failure of Democratic CN Leftism

    in Open World Forum

    Posted · Edited by Subcomandante Marcoz

    Sorry mate, i don't see what all this has to do with your intentions to join forces with NoV. That's just an irrelevant delirium.

    Irrelevant maybe to people who cant read the two quotes i was reffering to

    Ok Silent, don't be upset, next time i won't learn history out of history books, i'll come adress my questions directlly to you
    My quote does not fail. I don't care why you would join forces with fascists. Joining forces with them is unacceptable in any case. Do i really have to explain you the basics of leftism?
    I don't need to post that anymore. Since Silent made my day, why should i start searching all over? To please you? You sure know i have no intention to do this...

    Translation from Moronese:

    I dont have any proof at all, but as I always say The absense of evidence is not the evidence of absense.

    Go read again. Both my post and his. I told him that DM is the basis of Marxism and not HM. Read now, what did he answer? Damn, these soviet schools didn't do a good job with you, did they?

    yes, more spinning of words and failing to put them in context, you would make an excellent politician if you were not an anarchist.

    This is just your interpretation of the Critique of Political Economy (and of the Soviet Academy, lol stalinists). Now please explain (to) me how a notion never used by Marx can be the base of Marxism :popcorn:
    "I use 'historical materialism' to designate the view of the course of history, which seeks the ultimate causes and the great moving power of all important historic events in the economic development of society, in the changes in the modes of production and exchange, with the consequent division of society into distinct classes and the struggles of these classes."

    -Friedrich Engels; *Socialism Utopian and Scientific*

    Now I would love to see how you will spin words to get yourself out of that one. Do entertain me :popcorn:

    Failure of Democratic CN Leftism

    in Open World Forum

    Posted · Edited by Subcomandante Marcoz

    Ok Silent, don't be upset, next time i won't learn history out of history books, i'll come adress my questions directlly to you

    wait you can read? if so you should know that all those books you "read" are slanted to the right anyway, I suppose you skipped all the books that criticized the violence the anarchists showed to spanish peasants such as executing peasants who refused to "voluntarily" collectivize right? Oh no but obviously that part must be wrong right? I find it funny that Trots and anarchists accept at face value the "facts" about Communism even though these sources are fascist and right wing in origin(case in point the claims made by Robert Conquest in the "Black Book of Communism" which omits the german origin of some sources). This is funny since you people criticize capitalism but accept their "facts" as true and subject to no debate.

    My quote does not fail. I don't care why you would join forces with fascists. Joining forces with them is unacceptable in any case. Do i really have to explain you the basics of leftism?

    please do, since you are not a leftist anyway and once again twisting words for your own benefit. I would love to see what irrrational fantasies you would consider are "leftist" and how you precisely wish to implement those deeds. the fact that the Ukranian communes collapsed after Makhno fled Russa proves its failure. Also yes the anarchists should have been repressed in Spain they were killing the resistance movement with their economic strikes(which hampered the people's resistance) and their scorn for the Republican govt.(despite many anarchists being on govt. councils hypocrisy maybe?) is their failure and shows that their ultra infantile disorder plays into rightist hands not the opposite.

    The link is in lsf forums Silent, not the evidence. Learn to read my boy...

    I think it is you who should read, post the link it should still be on the public forums as far as I know Silent did not have an internal mask, also we dont have to prove anything since you are making the accusation. If you cant provide the link and any proof then why should anyone take your words at face value?

    The base of Marxism is not historical materialism but dialectical materialism. Marx never used himshelf the term historical materialism. If you were reading books, you would know this, but as you said earlier, you are avoiding books. Sorry, stalinist web sites are not a valid source of information.

    maybe you should learn to read because he clearly said Dialectical materialism

    Which as an anarchist is something you deny. Let me give you an example. DM is about contradictions between a set of objects. It is all about contradiction. This whole argument between ourselves is a contradiction.. However let us make an analogy

    a comrade and a punk have a set of contradictions between another, if they are elevated to a point they will fight and beat the !@#$ out of each other. If one of them dies then there is no more contradiction, contradiction is the root of all conflicts and struggles. which would make LSF and -SE- impossible to work together. Our goals were diametrically opposed and our contradictions too great to ignore. Also these Stalinist sites DO have notes and cite their sources from books which is something I cannot say about the Makhnovite websites i have visited.

    You also seem to not read either do you? since Historical Materialism was described by Marx and was described and shown in his book Critique of Political Economy.

    Rigas seriously do you think before you post man?

    Failure of Democratic CN Leftism

    in Open World Forum

    Posted · Edited by Subcomandante Marcoz

    I'm very proud of this. Thank you for mentioning it. I will keep up the good work. The only thing that sadens me (and weakens your argument) is that LSF majority did not concure to any of these propositions.

    A "he doesnt speak for LSF" joke would work so well here.

    As a land of freedom we couldn't but provide a sanctuary to the victims of your stalinist purges.

    hmm maybe that would be accurate if it were not for the fact that all -SE- members join fully knowing that Silent is a Stalinist and makes no way of hiding it. The funniest thing I ever heard about when I first heard about your alliance was the number of Trotskyists in the alliance which makes me laugh since Trots are supposed to be as anti-anarchist as Stalinists and Maoists are. Either way I am overjoyed the traitor was ZI'd anyway(along with LSF), ironic since that "alliance" was supposed to protect him.

    This ToA was a disgrace. LSF was wise to recognise this. But i was not part of it at the moment.

    This I agree, a ToA with LSF itself is a disgrace, I am sad we stooped to such a low level but the majority of our members who wanted to get such a treaty seemed to be too forgiving on all you peoples' useless armchair rants on the "evils" of the Stalinist -SE- even after we found out of the spy ring(just remind your "comrade" NKOS to never get out from peacemode ;))

    First because you flamed us with NoV's help (some allies for a so called socialist alliance) and second because you signed an MDP with them, while you knew that our attack was imminent. We could have destroyed you both then, but we didn't. We swallowed that down in the name of socialism.

    1. I dont consider anarchists socialists, I dont even consider them leftists, see someone who is a socialist must have grounds in dialectical materialism and not religious fantasy like anarchism which is why Silent ddnt bother to write a criticism on LSF, since RL anarchism itself is a failure and as the title said "leftist" I say that automatically dismisses LSF. well considering LSF wasnt socialist at all, and was nver our ally any flaming done on -SE-'s part to LSF is justified since that is a drop in the bucket to the massive flaming done to us. Also I was aware that the MDP was signed AFTER things were settled down so dont try to pull that off, because we could just throw the whole OIN debacle there in which LSF signed an MDP with OIN after we had established protectorate status(maybe the reason was to use us as buffer territory so you could freely flame NoV? and drag us down too? I dont know).

    I'm not aware of this. But i am aware of you stealing at least one LSF guide. And i must also ask you, how come you know so much about LSF internal political decisions without spying?

    Not aware of such a guide but even if we did do such a thing forgive me for not really caring at this point. the reason we know about LSF spying on us was from the NoV DoW which claimed Haraldur was in a spy ring.A few days later NoV DoW'd on LSF we found out about all you people's little plots against us, we also found out that Haraldur was expelled as CPCN Chairman and Skinz from CPCN for the said reason of "SPYING ON -SE-", I personally saw this as an opportunity to destroy this abomination once and for all but some members still acted retarded and thought we ought to support you DESPITE all of LSFs flames and spying on us in some ridiculous hope that we would merge with you, which they could not realize that I would resign from -SE- before we ever merged with a bunch of anarchists and fake Trots.

    This must be the best joke evar. And who exactlly would do this for you? LSF had more numbers, more ns and more allies.

    yes just like now. LSF even before the NoV DoW was in the dumps losing close to 100 members in 2-3 months, I in fact was going to push for a revenge war with your already dying alliance before NoV, FEAR, and NV had declared for the massive OOC disrespect you have shown to us over the months seems like all of LSFs "allies" got smart and realized they arent even worth it, ha! I even heard Kaiser Martens when he was a member had to establish your first military divisions.

    Thankfully you had Silent babysitting you, cause SE would have been wiped out of the map if you ever attacked LSF. It seems you had the other genious idea too, backing up the coop on WF and using SE's military against CPCN nations. Please, keep up the good work, i find you very amusing.

    Another asinine "conspiracy theory". I have explained myself 1329846239764927864824368637569273758 times, not my fault you are too hard of hearing to listen to anything.

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