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Enigmatic Frog

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  1. Really...at least read the latest post before you ask a question or bring up a point. It's invariably been asked before in a 19 page thread. Here's your answer:

    Our war with FAN is not considered big enough now to warrant the level of 'Open Warfare', therefore people are free to leave provided we aren't in any different conflicts.

    I don't mean to be a smart-arse, but hasn't everyone who has left NPO in the last year done so illegally because of the FAN war?

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    PLEASE

  2. But this isn't IRAN, RoK or Soldier. This is NPO we are talking about, and it's not in their Charter. It's not on their wiki page. It's not in their topic on IRC. It's nowhere to be found, unless you talk to a government member and specifically ask them that question, which I doubt a whole lot of people who ask that exact question.
    True enough, NPO's charter is a model of brevity and simplicity. However, I do believe that the membership requirements are included as part of the academy process. Any nation applying for NPO membership will (or at least should) be aware of those requirements before their membership is finalized.

    Quoted myself since you obviously missed my reply to Mogar. The fact is that any Pacifica applicant is provided with the information BEFORE they are admitted as a full member. And given that the policy on desertion is extremely common, it should not be unexpected. Moreover, in the case at hand, the members that left were all veterans, or at least that is my understanding. Therefore, they were well aware of the policy and the potential ramifications of their actions. That being said, I am not labeling them as deserters, scum or any other insulting term; I am simply stating that members of NPO are justified in stating that the prodigals were in violation of Pacifican law. You would have had a similar reaction from the proletariat of just about any alliance around. However, cooler and wiser heads (in this case one with horns and the mandate of heaven) prevailed and exercised a rather admirable degree of wisdom in dealing mercifully and pragmatically with the situation.

    If you want to troll NPO, please feel free to do so but at least pick subject matter that is worthwhile and justified. This particular topic is certainly neither.

  3. Correct, it is written in my alliance's charter, I dont believe NPO = IRAN though?

    LOL, of course not. The quote was simply to demonstrate your hypocrisy in criticizing NPO for adhering to a policy that you, as a Triumvir of IRAN, support as an integral aspect of your alliance's policies and procedures.

    ...and yes I believe that was Nintenderek's point, it ISNT written in the NPO charter, it IS written in other alliance's charter....

    True enough, NPO's charter is a model of brevity and simplicity. However, I do believe that the membership requirements are included as part of the academy process. Any nation applying for NPO membership will (or at least should) be aware of those requirements before their membership is finalized.

  4. Laws like that? Not usually. A law like that I do not believe is usually written in the charter. So, if a new guy joined NPO during a war, and then found out about that law and wanted to leave, they would not be able to and it most certainly would not be their fault.

    ...During peacetime, a member may elect to leave IRAN, but is required to give 72 hours advance notice. Members are not allowed to desert during any active war without express permission from a majority of the Triumvirs. Any member that deserts IRAN without notice during peacetime or without permission during war will be ZId...

    That is from IRAN's charter on their Wikipage.

    ...Leaving during a declared time of war is considered desertion. You may leave Ragnarok if you so choose, but you will be considered a deserter...

    That is from Ragnarok's charter on their Wikipage.

    ...A member who leaves during war will be classified as a deserter...

    That is from Soldier's charter on their Wikipage.

    I could add more, but I think you get my point.

  5. I understand your point, I just dont think anyone should be able to tell me that I cant leave an alliance should I choose, I dont join an alliance to be a prisoner.
    Ah, yes, but when those Order nations are oppressed, when those Order nations are kept from joining the alliance that they desire, it becomes a humanitarian concern for Planet Bob.

    Laws are laws. People who join alliances are able to review the laws before they join and agree to abide by them. If you don't think through the consequences before you join, then the fault is yours, not the alliance's. I happen to know that Mogar's current alliance has the same definition of desertion in its charter...hypocrisy much?

    Six wars or six thousand wars, the NPO has been in a state of war for well over a year now, meaning that by Moo's latest decision, everyone who has left during the Vox and FAN conflicts are traitorous scum.

    Purposely ignoring the facts about graduated stages of hostility and the requirements imposed on members during each stage, just comes across as purposeless and idiotic trolling. But I understand that you have to go with your strengths, CSM.

    Do those change based on the requirements of the moment like the definition of Francoism? If so, then I'm afraid it would be too difficult to keep up and we'll just let you keep that secret to yourselves.

    See comment directed at CSM.

    Ah, but then the propaganda wouldn't be so one-sided! :P

    True enough.

    I enjoy each episode of TWIP, but not for the journalistic content. Rather, it is the plethora of mindless responses spewed by the audience that I find entertaining and which cause me to remember the quote from Albert Einstein: "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

    This episode also brings to mind the title of one of the Immortal Bard's plays. Much Ado About Nothing

  6. The only thing I have to say about this is that resorting to OOC attacks in response to IC actions is an admission of IC failure. The same applies to people who reroll and continue their previous nation's persona and/or vendetta. If you have deleted, then your IC character is DEAD. Deal with it and move on to another IC character. People that reroll and continue the previous character are by definition OOC. The word that best describes anyone that pursues OOC actions is "pathetic".

  7. EDIT: THE CIRCLE IS COMPLETE!

    OK, you guys should know the drill. The 3 bonus resource set gives you Construction, Fast Food and Beer. The variation I am looking for has Uranium for nuclear capacity. This set gives the maximum population boost, good infra reduction costs and a good happiness boost. Some consider it to be the best trade set around. This will be a PURPLE circle; if you want to join you will need to switch to the Purple Team.

    I have also posted a thread in the RE forums and have sent out lots of pms in the game. As responses come in I will update here and in the RE forum thread.

    Marble: Amerika

    Lumber: Moboku

    Iron: Amerika

    Aluminum: Banzai

    Cattle: Duchy of Bavaria

    Pigs: Duchy of Bavaria

    Spices: Autumn

    Sugar: Moboku

    Water: The Slaughter House

    Wheat: Autumn

    Fish: The Slaughter House

    Uranium: Banzai

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