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My friends, I have received much support from many people regarding this matter, and for that myself and my alliance: The European Union, are highly grateful and will remain forever grateful. I have also seen behavior from certain government officials at LoSS that reflects poorly on their alliance in my eyes and that of others, with one government official being particularly rude, disrespectful, and further adding insult to injury. Despite this, I have also seen behavior by LoSS government officials that has earned back some of the respect that I have lost when this matter began, and from that certain government official's postings in this thread. As the government member of The European Union currently in charge of this matter on behalf of our alliance, I will disclose all of the details of the closure that we have reached with LoSS; The original nation that is guilty of attacking a member in our alliance has been labeled a rouge, and is being retaliated against as we speak and with the full consent of LoSS. LoSS has also agreed to provide compensation to Mozartia, the nation in our alliance who was originally attacked and is the true victim in all of this. Seeing as closure has officially been reached regarding this matter, I see no further reason for debate to continue in this thread. I would like to once again personally thank each and every member and alliance who has stood up for The European Union and supported our cause, your contributions to our alliance will never be forgotten. This matter however, has now officially been closed on good terms with both our government and the government of LoSS, both of our alliances are seeking to place this event behind us and seeing that closure has been reached there is no reason for further debate regarding this matter to ensue. With that said, I would like to make one final request to everyone here: Please stop posting in this thread, The European Union is ready to move beyond this matter and place it behind us.

[quote name='Arkarian' date='11 February 2010 - 05:05 AM' timestamp='1265879141' post='2174368'] ive classified him as a Ghost, you may do with him what you will. I have also offered your guy personal reparations, those will have to be on hold for a little bit but, i consider this issue closed myself [/quote] Thank you, this is all that we have been waiting for the last few days... we ourselves are ready to declare this issue closed, and would like to put it behind us as well. We will likely contact you again on IRC on the matter of reparations, however.

[quote name='Neuronia' date='11 February 2010 - 12:21 AM' timestamp='1265862067' post='2173885'] Dear European Union, Your actions indicate to me that you are new to alliance politics. That's OK; everybody makes a diplomatic mistake every now or then. People won't remember this bit of silliness for more than 24 hours. To avoid future faux pas like this one, I suggest that you study up on diplomatic protocol. Consider this situation. A more appropriate step toward resolution would have been: [b]A. Registering a diplomatic account on the LoSS Forums (http://www.cn-loss.net)[/b] This action officially opens diplomatic channels. It's much more efficient than complaining on the Open World Forum because you can actually speak directly to the people with whom you have a grievance. On the Open World Forum, you're talking to anyone who cares to hear you. On an issue like this, there aren't many of those "anyones". [b]B. Finding a LoSS government official on IRC[/b] The LoSS IRC channel is located at #loss on the Coldfront IRC server. This is the easiest and quickest way of doing things. Come on in and say "May I speak with a LoSS government official?" Someone of the appropriate rank will be right along to address your complaint. I was sorry to discover that this issue had been blown out of proportion. I wish you the very best of luck in your future political dealings. -ThePresident of Neuronia [/quote] The diplomatic means of communication was through CN messages, which is still an acceptable form of alliance communication. The main topic at hand however, is that LoSS -even now, after acknowledging this issue- has not made effort to bring an end to the unprovoked attack. [quote name='Sam Winters' date='11 February 2010 - 12:30 AM' timestamp='1265862651' post='2173903'] Follow what Neuronia wrote. Seriously. And that said, how exactly do we stop someone from attacking you if they don't read our messages? Please do let me know, so that in the future I can deal with things like this. [/quote] You could have informed us that this was the case, from which point we could still mediate a solution to the problem.

[quote name='legion-x' date='11 February 2010 - 12:13 AM' timestamp='1265861622' post='2173873'] we have never not acknowledge it [/quote] How is not replying to something, and letting unprovoked attacks continue despite repeated attempts to end the violence "acknowledging it"? [quote name='Sam Winters' date='11 February 2010 - 12:08 AM' timestamp='1265861331' post='2173868'] From what I'm told occurred on IRC, I'm not sure if I want to help you anymore. Sorry. [/quote] The fact of the matter is, a nation in your alliance attacked a nation in our alliance without provocation and we have attempted to reach a solution with you for several days, with you ignoring our messages. Regardless of the whole ignorance issue, as an alliance you need to acknowledge this issue and see that these unprovoked attacks are ended.

[quote name='Sam Winters' date='10 February 2010 - 11:52 PM' timestamp='1265860345' post='2173849'] If you really want to resolve an issue, and really can't come on to our IRC, then why not come to our forum? [/quote] Because we had not received any reply from your alliance whatsoever, not even a link to your forums or your IRC channel. I will however state, that LoSS has now began to acknowledge our messages and have been engaged in dialogue with us on IRC, however little progress was made beyond acknowledging the problem at hand. I am hopeful that a solution will be reached very shortly, as we have waited long enough. The ability to resolve this is in the hands of LoSS, not myself or my alliance... we have made every effort to contact you guys and finally had to resort to the OWF. A member of your alliance, was unprovoked and attacked our alliance... we are seeking a diplomatic and peaceful end to this dispute and yet you chose to ignore us.

Thank you for your message! Unfortunately however, we do not have an IRC channel set up due to previous problems with it. I will however, see if I can hop onto it using mibbit.

We do not currently have IRC, but we made our MSN Messenger information available. We do have forums however. [quote name='Penlugue Solaris' date='10 February 2010 - 10:26 PM' timestamp='1265855191' post='2173661'] Have you talked to them over IRC? And who have you messaged? Did they open it, and how do you know they have not asked him to stop? [/quote] We have not discussed this over IRC, messages were to sent to Co God Ben at LoSS (the messages were opened). We are certain that they have not asked him to stop, due to the fact that they have read our messages, and that the attacking nation has also read our messages.

Hello My Friends, I am posting here today to inform you all of an injustice committed by the alliance LoSS. Recently a [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=358743"]member of our alliance[/url] (The European Union) was attacked savagely and without provocation by a member of LoSS. My alliance and I then proceeded to speak to the leaders of LoSS and the attacking nation, both of whom have ignored our messages and refuse to offer any response to us, or to contain the activities of the nation attacking our alliance. After several repeated messages and a period of several days, leaders at LoSS have continued to treat our alliance with disregard and avoid speaking of this matter at all. It seems that LoSS refuses to take responsibility for its actions committed, and would rather hide than admit wrong doing on their behalf...

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