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  1. I joined this world slightly before the first wave of fellow Dutchies arrived. It was at a time that admin had closed registration because of Yellow #5 and the war that soon followed. Ofcourse I had no idea of the meaning of these events so that's what I read up to later.

    In any case, this initially small group of what later became FOK spent most of its time techraiding instead of actually building a solid foundation for a powerful alliance. I recall that we butted heads with NpO shortly thereafter (they intervened when a raid by some of us got out of hand), and presumably that is why a feud was started between our respective alliances. Up to this point I had no experience with a 'real' big war though.

    That would change soon. As FOK grew after the first mass recruitment drive we positioned ourselves in a corner opposite of NpO, by allying GOONS and MK. This put us squarely in the sphere of what later became known as the Unjust Path. The war that erupted - the Unjust War - was where I got my first war experience. On an individual level, I recall that it wasn't a particularly hard time we had, as NTO and -AiD- were the alliances we fought and the difference in warring capability became clear very quickly - not just to those directly involved but the rest of the world as well.

    But for the alliance it was a big deal. This situation led to GATO infamously claiming a PIAT was a justifiable reason to intervene on their friends behalf. That didn't come to pass for obvious reasons, so in the end we got off pretty easily, and indeed our leadership understood that we had gotten lucky. The whole Unjust experience, with all the drama accompanying it, greatly helped in shaping our alliance's future. By proving ourself in this way to the world, we were allowed to play with the big boys and join the Continuum.

  2. This war is absolutely hilarious. And most of it is summarized in this very thread.

    IRON seemingly ready for the lunatic asylum
    CnG calling others lapdogs
    The sudden discovery of "moralism" by the likes of NG
    Making a show out of "defending" an ally by declaring on a minor alliance when there are way bigger targets out there

    All in all, the whole ordeal has caused me to feel sympathy for NG. Whatever their failings (and there were many) they have never lowered themselves to this level.

    It was nice knowing you IRON.

  3. [quote name='Azaghul' timestamp='1342281357' post='3010130']
    [...] I say "not as likely" because there were other political factors at play, [b]like Sparta's support for BM.[/b]
    [/quote]

    To clarify: it's an ODP. Now one can wonder whether BM having any treaties upsets you.

  4. [quote name='flak attack' timestamp='1342216840' post='3009852']
    MK hates lapdog alliances regardless of side. If there's an alliance we perceive as a lapdog, we won't get close to them.

    Consider this, there are plenty of alliances out there that would love a chance to become MK's lapdog, yet in the past year, we've upgraded one treaty (NoR), dropped one (FOK) and signed another (NG). Given that a startling number of the names on the MK-FOK treaty were in NG at the time of the signing of that treaty (literally over half of the FOK signatures), it hardly counts as a change of policy. When our friends changed AA, we changed our treaty.

    MK could have signed a dozen treaties with lapdog alliances over that time, yet we chose not to because we're not in the collecting business.
    [/quote]

    Flak attack, you [i]wound [/i]me.

    But seriously, a relationship needs to be advantageous not just for one, but for both. This wasn't the case with the MK-FOK relationship, at least not when you started aiming for our allies to be rolled. That people such as Cheeky (who now resides in your halls) went along with it is a disgrace, and doesn't validate your point about 'friendship' at all, rather it shows what a tool people such as him are.

    So the core of the matter: I'm not really blaming MK for this turn of events (although I do believe the abovementioned was quite disrespectful at the very least) as much as I do the fellowtravellers.

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