Natural Disaster

I am in for one of the buyers. Ruler: Natural Disaster Nation: Strong Like Bull Link: http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=394131

Wow! Best wishes to all! I think my evil needs a nap.

------------------------- I love the way you have simplified this, but it is a little more complicated than you have explained. Sorry for the late post on this one. I just saw. Have fun! ND

TPF still does not realize that this could have ended with only 5 or 6 nations being involved in any attacks. TPF's policies only promote a war to continue. You can not raid and alliance and expect that nations members not to respond in defense. TPF's policies complicate that matter by attacking nations who come to the aid of a fellow alliance member. It becomes a never ending cycle with TPF basically getting away with murder. Now with in the play of TE, it is a brilliant idea. It allows TPF be highly aggressive in defending themselves as small alliance or bullying a smaller alliance into surrendering after the smaller nation has been raided. This is the case here. If TPF truly wants peace here, they would have to peace out with all UW nations. If an extra attacks occurs from any UW member, member will be asked to peace out immediately. If the UW member does not peace out after being that, UW will deal with the matter internally. Now, if a TPF members decides to attack again, this war will contunue. TPF started this war with tech raids and their policies for defending themselves. If TPF wants peace, they may have to eat an extra attack for a few UW members while we are trying to this war. At this point, and I am speaking for myself here, I would have to physically see peace declartions on the war screens before I would be willing to ask any member of UW to stand down. As far as I am concerned, TPF started this and there will be no end until TPF leadership understands their actions. Raiding is a part of the game. We all should understand this function of the game. Please do claim to want peaceful when you tech raid in playing the game. If you truly want to play Cyber Nations peacefully, stick with SE. It is much more peaceful there. I play both! Since we are playing TE and there are no real lives or property lost while playing this game. United White will not be bullied! We will not back down! We will not surrender! Period! If TPF truly wants peace here, they already at least know my terms. Have fun! Natural Disaster United White Director of War

-------------------------------------------- Very true statement.

-------------------- Now that's what I am talking about. No retreat! No Surrender! That is UW law! :lol:

----------- Now that's funny. :lol:

-------------------------------------------- As I said, the UW defender could not see that the two nations had peaced out. TPF complicates the matter by with another round of attacks and more TPF members join in. Your policies add feul to the fire with TPF defending its' initial tech raiders. By time I peaked in, it looked like all out war. That is all done now. Again, have fun for the next thirty days. I do not see an end to this. You, PK, and others have seem to have taken this situation to heart. It is a game. I enjoy it no matter whether I am just collecting taxes and paying bills or debating with you guys through pm's or on this forum. It is all fun baby! Let me say it one more time for the people in the cheap seats. HHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEE FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNN! :lol: ND

BG, Allow me to try to expalin this a different way. You still do not seem to understand this entire cycle. I see you understand the first part. The disconnect here comes from the peace arrangement. Now I am merely speaking in reference to this game. If you attack my nation and send a peace offer, I may and will defend my nation by attacking your nation. I would then send you a peace offer. If you accept my peace offer, we can call it even. That is simple and straightforward Now, let's add a timeline to this situation. You attack me at 1:00am and send a peace offer. I log on at 1:00pm and notice your attack. I then defend myself by immediately attacking you and send you a peace offer. Now, you log on a 1:00am the next day and accept my peace offer. There is a twelve hour period after I have sent my peace offer to you. In between that period, members of my alliance come to my aid and attack your nation. This is what happened in the begining of our conflict. My alliance members in that twelve hour period cannot see you and I have peaced out. They are simply defending their alliance brother. Now here is the funny part. Based on the rules of your alliance, you feel justified in attacking me in the first place and willing to accept my counteratttack. You do not want to accept that my alliance members have come to my aid in that twelve hour period. Now, it is in that twelve hour period where I am not sure if you will attack me again. The peace offer has to be accepted from your side first before I call ask my alliance members to stand down. I hope you understand that. Be good! Natural Disaster United White Director of War

Quote: To: panic king From: JonBoy16 Date: 3/28/2009 12:49:03 PM Subject: RE: .Wars w/TPF Message: I'm not suggesting that UW "back down" but rather that her leaders help facilitate in an end to the attacks. I am issuing word to all TPF members attacking UW nations to peace out, but if other UW jump in, then other TPF members will also jump in. As you know, TPF, much like UW does not take kindly to attacks on her members no matter what the reason may be, so it will be hard keeping TPF nations away if additional UW nations jump into the conflict. I simply ask for you, as a leader of UW, to step up and help me end this conflict between our alliances- out of respect for the way UW and TPF have stood by eachother's alliances in the past if for no other reason. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ JonBoy16, you are incorrect on the way UW handles its' members who tech raid. When our members tech raid, they are really on ther own. UW does not help that nation, if other members of the raided members alliance choose to defend theeir alliance member. However, UW will defend our alliance members from unprovoked attacks(general attacks, tech raids, etc.). As long as a UW member is not the initial attacker, UW has their back. This s in my opinion where TPF's philosohy is flawed. I have been simply trying to get you and BG to understand that point of view. If you truly understood that point of view, I could have been able to help put an end to this conflict. TPF seems to want to get away free with tech raiding against UW. We do not play that way. We defend ourselves. Simply put, if you raid a nation, you should expect to receive an attack from the defending nation and its' alliance members. That applies here in TE as well as SE and in real life. If you try your philosophy in SE, you will get pounded. This is TE. It is played more agressively. So, this has gone to far. As I have stated to you, BG and OZ, have fun! I guess we will be going at this for the next 30 days :lol: Be good! Natural Disaster United White Director of War

Listen up! This is TE. Even tough this is more agressive than SE, when alliances are formed there has to be some type rules to being part of the alliance. TPF is at fault here. TPF started this with tech raiding(that never happens here in TE ). UW member came to the aid of their alliance brothers. TPF then felt they were obligated to defend their tech raiders instead of ordering them to peace out will all UW members. This spun a continuing cycle of attacks from both sides. Members of TPF claimed to want peace, but did not understand an extra attack may come from UW members who simply would be trying to recover land and tech lost from the original attacks. Which can be considered as reps or just to get even(TE remember ). Things would have peaced out with only a few nations involved. Of course it did happen that way. Now that I think about it. Why am I posting this anyway. I had enough fun debating this is with TPF yesterday. Have fun everyone! This thing resets at the end of next month anyway. Do not lose any sleep over this. I know I won't. :lol: Natural Disaster United White Director of War

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Ladies and Gentlemen, please make sure you check AA's before attacking. United White now has several peaceful agreements with different alliances. Any attacks on these alliances has to be authorized by a government representative. Thanks, Natural Disaster United White Director of War Agreements with: Warlordz UberCon Fark NEO Murder, Inc