Revelation
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It would be wise to. Looks like theres some real talent there and I would hate to see it muddled by the likes of Elborrador.
With posts like this, I don't see how you could possibly want to be in the same alliance. I won't stoop to his level though, I wish Murder Inc. success in whatever it chooses to do.
I appreciate you wishing us success and your concerns have been noted. MI's leadership has been acquainted with each other for quite some time and we have faith in each other. I hope that your views of el can be reversed some day but MI is family.
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Well I would be more than welcoming for Murder Inc., but it seems you have made a poor choice in leadership with Elborador.
Sorry to hear, really.
Noted. For the record Poison Clan is under our protection. That is all.
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I give TPF respect for sticking with there allies.
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Ok good i didnt think so. I would like to thank RAD for there assistance in the war. You guys are a good group.
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Does this mean Avalon is done fighting PC?
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Perhaps not, but the vast majority of quality members were nurtured here.....and in TF! and most that I have had contact with still have respect for us. Very few are actually the asshats they are portrayed to be, present company excluded.
Of course.
Although I do have respect for you, Mhawk and BG. Twisted talked high of you.
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in all honesty, after this war is done, how about a few (or more) raiding alliances get together and decide to "raid" PC?
My Nation. Why wait?
You guys seem to think this is all about profit. Its about war.....we like it and we are good at it. We have been locked up for months and now we are like kids in a candy shop.
We respect everyone we fight except TPF because.....well because we dont like them.
Again good luck Cali and find some friends that will come out of hiding to protect you.
….and Jbone we don’t have any pro TPF supporters in PC.
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Out of curiousity, how would you react to having your alliance triple teamed out of the blue? You can't allow your members to be raided or you aren't really an alliance. I mean, what if you accept peace and the next day you're being mugged again, either by the same people or people who have learned that attacking you equates to free tech? What kind of alliance would let you raid them and then roll over and accept peace?
I would say make better friends.
Side note: California i wish you the best of luck. I know what it feels like.
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He isn't in TPF and I have tried pretty hard to mend relations, there is no "hate" .
You must be reffering to the Terms you gave us? Or the constant bashing our diplomats got on your boads. Or was it when you knew war was comming so you tried to get a MDAP with us?
Yes you were trying very hard.
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MY nations? I don't see any of the larger GATO nations in peace.
If it is just an organized raid of a TPF protectorate fine. Seems childish to me.
I remember you being in TPF...when did you leave?
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MY nations? I don't see any of the larger GATO nations in peace.
If it is just an organized raid of a TPF protectorate fine. Seems childish to me.
Childish is how i would label TPF hate for PC. I love seeing you guys cry all over the boards for sympathy. Makes me glad we entered this conflict.
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If Valhalla got off scotch free, OG the same, and GGA and MCXA nearly unscathed I don't get what TPF has done that was so bad. They fought to the end. Never once did they support P/EZI nor did they force any alliance to disband or lay upon them very harsh terms. Why is it that TPF is getting singled out? Because they gave you the war that you wanted? Or is it because "rolling a hard six" really irritates you that much?
Seriously, what the heck did TPF do that was so catastrophic that warrants them of all alliances to be singled out? I don't understand it. Do you people not realize that they stood up for most of the things you stood for and forced the Hegemony to make some changes?
What did TPF do to deserve this? Please answer me because right now some of these comments are beyong ridiculous. And Orkules, you sound like a damn NPO IO after his alliance has been betrayed I'll tell you that right now.
Trying to take out PC. So we have every right to hate TPF.
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Probly just our larger nations getting bored bc your large nations are in peace mode.
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And, on a separate note, anyone looking forward to "another shot" at Valhalla down the road, should know that it would be an exercise in pain. A lot of it. They don't stand alone.
It would have to be next time because it was not this time.
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Planet Bob. An MDP with an alliance on the losing side of a 50 to 1 war is the same MDP on the winning side of a 50 to 1 war.
Yes an MDP is the same but honoring the MDP is another. Which was my point in the first place.
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oh so pc was just helping tsi maintain their honor, sure thing
Not at all what i was talking about. But sure if thats what you got out of it.
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No offense, but I have a feeling you're only really saying that because you know they can't possibly win. Staring down the barrel of a bigger gun than your own and still having the balls to stand up is more telling.
Read the history of Legio X then come talk to me about your above statement.
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Honoring your treaties is the same no matter what odds your facing or what peace you face.
On what planet?
If you don't like white peace, fine don't give it. Just don't expect it back.I dont. If TPF and Valhalla win this war i will have no problem paying the reps.
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The beatdown of seven days isn't enough? They were just following treaties afterall.
What is more honorable?
Going into a war knowing you will lose most of your nations and have to pay massive reps?
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Going into a conflict to for seven days knowing you will get white peace?
Im just saying all this white peace crap is killing the game for me. I dont care about money i would just like to know who the really honorable alliances are out there.
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At least this thread show something nice. People on both sides seems to be outraged with these reps demands.
Does anyone honestly think that people would have been outraged over these terms last GW? No they'd been lenient.
For those that doesn't bother to think. I'm not saying these terms are good because there were worse terms last GW. I think these terms are bad and TSI doesn't deserve them, they deserve white peace.
What I'm saying is that the general consensus about what's lenient and what's extortion seems to have shifted and for that I'm glad. Lets hope we move further in that direction.
White peace is the a terrible idea.
I disagree with all the alliances that honored there treaties getting white peace. That’s crap. If everyone does this then it takes away from those alliances that honor treaties out of character rather then knowing they will get white peace in seven days just to save face.
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GATO did not have to agree to a Viceroy and a complete surrender or sovereignty either, but they did not have much choice, did they? A bit of a stretch, I know, but the point stands. Those who find themselves in a position of power must take on the responsibility of not abusing their newfound privileges. Others cannot be accused of having agreed to do something when a gun is pointed at their head.
Would that be a pixel killing gun? I agree that there might be a case for abuse but it was their war and they chose to enter it and they chose to sign the terms. They could have asked higher ups for help if they wanted.
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I think it was kinda dumb to give terms like these.
As for the argument that they're fair because both sides signed them. All (almost all?) surrender terms through history have been signed by both sides so that would make them all fair. It doesn't really hold up.
Who said they had to sign them?
On a side note i disagree with all the alliances that honored there treaties getting white peace. That’s crap. If everyone does this then it takes away from those alliances that honor treaties out of character rather then knowing they will get white peace in seven days. But that’s just my opinion.
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Why do people think this fits into a greater Karma policy? The people who do the fighting make the decisions on terms. They are sovereign.
Good point. Karma is a "lose" affiliation of alliances.
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I see no wronge in giving them terms like these. Both sides agreed?
If you dont like them dont sign them.
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I cant believe this made it to 8 pages bc of a few kids cant stop talkin to each other.