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(scottimus prime @ Jan 21 2010, 03:29 PM) *
People don't get to bully for free anymore, there is now a cost associated with bullying...
If this were to be true, you'd have attacked every raiding alliance out there, including us. So far I only see a declaration on \m/. You know what that is called? Cowardice..
(once again, not official NpO government position here, just a member)
GOONS responded well to a discussion of the matter. My understanding is that their government was civil and the conversation was productive (props to them by the way).....
\m/ responded in a dramatically different fashion and achieved dramatically different results
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Wow. I have disliked NpO since they unrightfully interfered in The Second FOK! - The Peace War. And it's seems they haven't changed a bit, still sticking their nose into other people's business.
It's easier to assume everyone can fend for themselves when you are #12 on the alliance list. When you are #140 the vantage point is different, this is so all those who are just getting their feet wet can do so without being tormented by someone for nothing but tech and lulz. We just want it to stop. We don't require reps or anything, we just want it to stop.
People don't get to bully for free anymore, there is now a cost associated with bullying...
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I really think Polaris is doing the right thing, I think the morality argument is BS. HOWEVER, there some thing that I think is extremely fishy and challenges the sincerity and the consistent of Polaris. If you are declaring on \m/ mainly because the tech raid on an defenseless alliance, why you kept your alliance with GOONS when they did exactly the same thing? Double standarts?
Please enlight me.
Keep in mind the following is not a governmental response, but just a member. I believe there was sit-down type meeting where polaris went over it's concerns. We've always thought tech raiding tiny alliances was not cool. We apparently expressed our disdain and inability to tolerate this bullying with all the alliances involved. GOONs were the only ones who were willing to sit down and discuss it in a civil manner. \m/ obviously resorted to both flaunting their policies and taunting us and the rest of Bob. I don't know all the details of the discussion that happened as it's way over my paygrade so you'll have to ask GOON and NpO gov about that... My assumption is that a tolerable concensus was reached about future policies on the matter.
Unless I have mistaken Grub, he has made it clear that we don't expect anything more out of this whole deal than for bullying of tiny alliances for sport and tech to come to an end. Someone must be the one to stop it.
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I think this is a pretty decent policy on first review.....nice WC
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I'd like to take a moment to thank all those who have spoken up in support of our convictions on this one. Despite being willing to fight for it alone, it is comforting to know we are doing this for a community that still values convictions. You don't know how much we appreciate it.
Thank you all
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Grub does not lie, Polaris does not waiver
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We recently had a GRL over 30 because the world was tired of feeling like the big guys could push us all around whenever they wanted.
It would be wonderful to see that collective spine reappear.
No one should live in fear of others penchant for frivolous bullying, everyone should live in fear of their own.
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You are becoming a caricature...for your own good, stop, breathe twice, join an alliance and in your membership application promise to never do this again
I know you feel no one is taking your complaints seriously...this course of action will not change the fact that you are right
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Oh, it's an MDoAP these days, and apparently has been for some time. My apologies for my confusion, I'm the type to try to look at the bigger picture which, unfortunately, leads me to overlook the details from time to time. Thank you for the correction, though if I'm reading your subtext right, I imagine it won't make a whole lot of difference soon, huh?
We have always stood against bullying since I have started paying attention at all to politics...(since grub took control)
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I wish to say simply that I love your graphics
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That's pretty cool guys...it's probably pretty hard to build an alliance from scratch so props to you!....also, I love your name
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Mattski,
your edit of the OP is clear, calm and fair...well done
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I'll be damned if you attack a member of mine over a mistake.
Probably shouldn't attack any polars either...if one us recruits someone, send us a letter...it works much better
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You're a sovereign alliance and can do what you want.....it just doesn't seem to be good tactics. You can see all the good press it's getting you already. Just a friendly suggestion, relax.
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I'm the coordinator for a blue sphere trade circle that just had a man delete, it's literally the best set in the game....standard triple set with uranium
We are offering you the slot to be the water/fish...if you need some financial help to get set up, we will also offer that!
...If you want in you need to reply to me that you are committing...if you are the first one, I will reply telling you to drop all trades within 48hours and trade with the list I give you
it's that simple!
aluminum, cattle, fish, iron, lumber, marble, pigs, spices, sugar, uranium, water, wheat
(+beer, construction, fast food)
****All communications should be in-game via http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=226229
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This is a good thing.....nice to have you on board ARES!!!
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http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=226229
Please send all correspondence in-game....I have bought donations for the last 4-5months and have a flawless payment record.....
I can send payment out on your behalf or straight to you.....all at once or every 10 days......it doesn't matter much to me
Please be clear about price.....I will expect donation to be sent early December.....preferably the first
......I am a former gov member of NpO and you will have no trouble finding NpO members to vouch for me.....reliable
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http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=226229
first payment comes as soon as you confirm in game....I need the donation on the 15th...
no tech....7payments of 3mil
(please do all contact in game....I am NpO officer and stable....I'm good for it)
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http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=226229
Very simple... you commit to pay the $20 donation approximately on the 15th of august and I start sending you 3mil every 10 days (total of 21mil).....if you owe other people money and would like me to send them money to help pay your debts I will do that too
I do not check these forums often.....please only contact in game
and please only contact if you actually have the money, I just had my august donation that was previously arranged back out
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http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=226229
I am looking for someone who is selling a $20 donation. Please message me in-game with your offer of terms...
If you want CN dollars, name your price....
If you want CN tech, I am willing to pay any of your sellers (just give me a target every ten days an I'll pay them for you....you must locate the sellers though and I'm only responsible for the money getting where you want it, not for the tech sellers sending you the tech.....that's why I want you to choose the sellers)
Payments for this early AUG donation can begin as early as tommorrow...
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welcome aboard infinity.....we got your back
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I sent you a pm in-game....I rarely check these forums so please reply to me there....thanks bro
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Is there an easy way to find out which guilds are governed by a democracy?
Most alliances with have their charter available for viewing in the public side of their forums...
as for finding one that matches your style, check the alliance announcements section of this forum and you can get an idea what the personality of the alliances are like and which ones are respected...you also want to ask the alliance if it is at war before you join...once you're in during war, you're in for the ride in most cases
I like the New Polar Order www.newpolarorder.net .....we're not a democracy as we only vote on the lower government but all members have a right to speak their opinion to the Emperor....we are a 50-50 of diplomacy and war in my opinion
If you want a neutral alliance that doesn't fight or get involved in the political fight, try the Green Protection Agency
We have starwars themed (New Sith Order), religious themed (Coalition of Christian Countries), booze themed (the Liquor Cabinet) and even macho fighting tiger themed (Siberian Tiger Alliance)
The important thing to understand is that you can change if you find your first choice doesn't work for you, but be aware if your alliance is at war you are usually expected to stick it out until the end of the war.
pm me if you have any questions, you don't have to join my alliance at all, the advice is free
Imperial Decree - New Polar Order
in Alliance Announcements (IC)
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You know what brother...I don't agree with you but I want to thank you for the most civil and well thought out statement I have seen so far. This whole process is better when people can discuss their viewpoints logically and I want to thank you for that....
(My vantage point would be that all boys have to learn to speak up for themselves but I would never tolerate any group of boys ganging up on a younger one or even a larger boy thinking he can bully kids for his own amusement)