Asa Phillips
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We could do this all week. But we won't.
I have no time for your lacking reading comprehension (from my first post onwards I clearly stated that the event was brought to light on OWF, happened elsewhere- thought irc, but obviously I accept correction if it wasn't there), nor for your arrogant demeanor.
Both are worth very little to me.
You said it happened on IRC, you were wrong. In reply, you said "Then it was the forums". Again, wrong.
No reading comprehension required, your words are pretty simple to follow. Unless you aren't using them correctly perhaps? Then again.
The "arrogant" part somewhat hurts my feelings if we're being honest. Strictly because when taking into account the source of the observation apparently doesn't know what the word means, and that it actually applies to them.
Arrogant- having or showing the insulting attitude of people who believe that they are better, smarter, or more important than other people.
As if somehow you can just make up lies, and then change them, and they should just be right and override the truth because you say it is so. If you'd stop lying for the sake of trying to get someone to look at you? You won't have to fall on your face and embarrass yourself when you trip over them.
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No, it simply is not. The only reason I remember that detail is that it was almost a seldom occurrence where WTF was briefly discussed (and one member even posting to confirm the report) on the OWF. Otherwise, it is highly unlikely I would remember that brief moment in the OWF cluster$%&@. That tidbit served as a comical relief back then, as everybody knew how in vain and desperate those sentiments were.
I must imagine though, that it wasn't an isolated case. There sure must have been many cases of such pleas towards GPA and WTF by various individuals during the years. Not at all different, to the one here and also combined by the same result.
Yes, it simply is.
No matter how hard you want it not to be. There is also no Santa Claus, no matter how hard you might want there to be one. Of course, you won't find your proof on the OWF (though you were sure without doubt in your original statement that it was on IRC) ... because it never existed. And you'll say you won't look for it to help your case, or even that you care enough to, because you know its a throwaway lie you tried to pass as fact.
You're merely trying to save face right now because you didn't think anyone was looking that would call you out on it. This is why you're trying further to redirect and expand your original lie to include other cases you "imagine" must've happened and including GPA now. If you carpet bomb with enough lies, surely one is bound to be the truth, just like a blind squirrel eventually finds a nut.
Keep trying, at least you'll add to your post count! :frantic:
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Then it was the forums. Either way it happened, the details unimportant to the point raised.
And another lie. You forget the alliance you are talking about I gather? The evil isolationists who avoid everyone?
Until now, we've avoided the OWF like the plague it is just like many others do. Even now, most of us still do.
Only to correct the lies of the children and poorly informed are what even bring us here to begin with, so the truth is made public... not deformed opinion.
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There were some people coming to appeal to you on irc seeing you as their only 'hope' to do something about it. Of course, they were dismissed from a high horse.
That is an absolute lie. And a pathetic attempt of one at that. We've never had an IRC [i]we[/i] use where anyone outside of WTF can find it.
DBDC offered white peace to WTF after the first round, I believe. They refused, as is their right, so DBDC continued.
Incorrect. You believe wrong. Its interesting how everyone EXCEPT DBDC is coming out and saying DBDC offered us peace. Yes, Cuba made contact around day ten when WTF nations began to counter with a message that was obviously a prelude to discussing peace.
There was never a peace offer. Nor a desire for one.
The ball was put in WTF's court, and considering they have offered nothing within reason or anything at all, they are the perpetrators at this point. WTF is only damaging itself at this point and to expect DBDC to pay for self WTF's inflicted wounds is troll worthy.
EDIT: Grammar - SubjectAbsolutely. Because we play the game very differently from you, we must certainly have the same definition of "damage" right? Haha.
Just because you care how many pixels you have, and how many political friends you keep, and how many hours you can waste spinning speculation into fact in your mind. We don't. None of what matters most to you? Matters to us. It never has, it never will. We're fine with that, why it bothers you so much its lost to us.
please explain why this is the case noting that World Task Force have spent practically the past decade giving off a "holier than thou" vibe and not wanting to actively get involved within the world.
Holier that thou?
Ok. I'll actually take the bait on this one. Please explain how leaving the rest of CN alone to do as they wish is holier than tho? This should be entertaining.
What are you going on about? You sound like the crazy cat lady next door.
Have you read YOUR posts at all? :lol1:
WTF did nothing when Pax Corvus was hit, and now you want the rest of the world to do something now that you're being attacked? Good luck with that.
We did nothing when GPA was hit as well all those years ago. Nor when TDO was hit. Or when Old Guard was biting the pillow. Because you lump us in with them, doesn't mean we are obligated to feel the same way, and that they shouldn't either.
If you can find anywhere that WTF has asked for help from anyone, even though it was offered? Your either dreaming, intoxicated, high, or off your meds.
Congratulations WTF. Over the past decade you clearly established your alliance as an isolationist AA. As Franz said (too lazy to quote) you turned your back on those that needed your help. Now your the one's on the soapbox asking for help and wondering why no one is listening. slow claps
Thanks, but WTF hasn't asked anyone for help. No matter how badly any of you want to believe that. And 8.5 years is hardly a "decade", nonsense statements that start off with exaggerated facts carry little significance to anyone but the self-important individual who made them.
You're the latest one in this thread to drink the juice... so how about you fill all of us in as to where we have asked for help? and how asking for help would change anything? We're doing [i]exactly[/i] what we said to DBDC we would do probably a year ago when the subject came up. The war was inevitable, we made our position clear so they knew what the outcome would be. Asking for help would only make us a group of players who didn't keep their word, no?
We're keeping it. DBDC isn't really getting upset about it anymore, why the rest of you are? Is confusing.
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As for the other nations I've spied, it was a deal worked out with thespindoctor, myself and Umbrella leadership. He spied my nation and in return I get to gather intel on all nations of his alliance that are in my range. That works out now to be every nation in his alliance above 120kNS.
Pics, or it didn't happen.
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Two problems:
Not enough targets that aren't allies.
Would be nuked and attacked back and lose tech in the process.
If it were possible to simply raid 20k tech a month, tech levels would be far higher. Even discussing this as realistic is a massive waste of time.
My plans are ruined.
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You are the master at this... Are you not?
I don't understand what that means. I wasn't the one who reported the attempted sitting of a nation who was quitting, I don't believe it was anyone in WTF actually if I recall. Personally, I'd rather have people try ever last ditch effort possible like shady nation sitting, it screams of desperation and is rather satisfying to drive someone to go that far.
Side note, I hear ODN will be leading the charge against WTF any day now... possibly even as early as tomorrow night. Or consideration is also being made of merging into Blood Pack. Stay tuned!
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Perhaps you're missing them hitting Noobcake while he's still in ODN?
Incorrect. Noob cake is NOT in ODN. They made it clear he would not be admitted while he was still at war with WTF.
No more a member than I would be of ODN if I were to sit there in pending status while at war with DBDC nations.
But I digress, Happy Birthday Sparta. I knew Bush 84 back when he was in OIN, still remember the discussions we had when he told me Microminer and him were starting the whole thing up. He was a good guy, it was fun keeping in touch with him randomly over the years and sharing how each others lives were moving forward. He was one of the early good friends of WTF when we were just starting out.
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Could it be CT was to DBDC (and SPATR for a time) as Noob Cake is to WTF?
Makes you wonder if PoW exchanges will solve all the Cyberverse's problems.
At one point, it might've been the ideal solution. Except the two were pretty different cases.
Noob cake has only been attacked by members of the alliance he originally attacked in defense of themselves. He wasn't incorrectly labeled as a rouge nation in order to allow opportunists from outside alliances to fill his war slots, or to sanction him on nearly every sphere color. An entirely separate AA wasn't created to handle him and his friends either. :ph34r:
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I think WTF has proven without a doubt it is not that tough at all.
Haha, that is the best you can do? You forgot to say something mean about our mothers. That most certainly would cut EVEN DEEPER than insulting our CN cred. :lol1:
Then again, I suppose you should judge a CN ruler by their actions... not their words. Aside from the desperate underhandedness? Yours are quite unremarkable when compared to the esteem you hold yourself in. This is where we differ, I'm OK with being neither a special CN snowflake nor a beautiful CN butterfly just like my WTF brothers and sisters. Nor do WE care. You, just appear to be the absolute last mummer in the parade, trying as hard as possible to get anyone to look at you before they've packed it up and gone home for the day.
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And a month ago Desconistan had just $800,000,000 on hand. Wonder where this little fiasco has left him now.
Total Money: $216,124,003 as of a few days ago. Its tough to get someone who has quit to have their nation stop being logged into.
Who?
Desconistan, silly. http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=133446
I always suspected that you didn't actually read my posts... or maybe you just don't understand them? If you need help I am happy to break out the crayons again.
In his defense. You DO use a lot of big words. :lol1:
I go by the greenacres rules of raiding. DBDC crapped on all of them and should WTF manage to get them to cry uncle.
Unpossible, they just pull opportunists from the other 99% of CN to join their party 2 months late. There is no denying their insatiable desire to 'win'.
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Glad we could agree that my opinion is always unconditionally 100% correct and factual at all times.
Oh, I never said factual... vapid, but not factual. :lol1:
I would love to see him raid back 20k tech within a month.
Especially with many of the nations in range? Allied, or under NAP. Should prove interesting in a year or so. :popcorn:
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Not sure why you'd want the sloppy seconds, get in while the gettings good. Instead you let every WTF who could go before you, and then only now hit Cuba. I get that its part of your strategy, but leaders should lead from the front. First in, last out. You should have been one of the first to hit Cuba, instead you are so far the last.
As always, you and your vapid opinion are 100% spot on and unconditionally right. I will exist forever more in disgrace and shame, unable to look at the man in the mirror. I loved my NS, and will miss it terribly even though I made every attempt to save it at the expense of my alliance mates.
Asa was anarchied from the get go and only PMd to restock nukes to be fair. He has fought as hard, if not harder than anyone in WTF. When you're outgunned, you're outgunned.
Others have done much more, I had the misfortune of only one attacker at the start... where most others had 2 or 3. And even others who weren't tossed into anarchy had 4 or 5 when they declared offensive wars in addition to the defensive ones they were in.
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Does WTF have allies? Other than getting intelligence from Fark. Because I don't think that's going to help.
I'm calling you out, Franz Ferdinand. Asa has just shown that you have not been updating the wiki enough. I expect to see a full rundown of their allies by tomorrow.
You completely missed the point. Somewhere many pages ago I stated that there seem to be select people who think they know what goes on within WTF and how we feel about certain things. And because THEY say it, it most certainly must be true. A lot of folks would have a lot less to say if they made their statements on actual facts.
Look, you are free to do whatever you want. I'm glad you finally mustered up the courage to hit Cuba, for example. But there are consequences, political and non political, to most actions. Most of us play the political game as well. WTF doesn't. Part of playing the politic game is having friends and allies who have your back. Part of not playing the politic game is relying on the good will of others to not attack you.
It hardly was courage. Anyone who thinks that courage is needed to play a consequence-free online nation building simulator? Needs to rethink how their life has gone thus far. It was a matter of waiting just like every WTF nation before me did. Again, you state your opinion as fact when it is not.
Next you'll respond as if the NS that will be lost in our war is a reflection on me as a person, and perhaps I'll feign sadness to humor you so you aren't wrong ALL the time. Weeks ago Cuba knew he should expect a declaration from me in the future, because I told him. You need a screen cap? Or for once will the boring un-warped and un-opinionated truth actually suffice? :lol1:
As for the rest, I've addressed that prior. No need to waste either of our time.
At least you didnt try to convince me again that we're convinced that we're winning. This time.
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WTF is currently within it's rights to call in allies as well.. but, oh wait, you believe you don't need any. Welp, every action has consequence. Stop crying about being disadvantaged, you choose to be so.
Caliph... Is that you Caliph? :lol1:
Either that, or its another one of those folks who thinks just because THEY say something they know little to nothing about, that their opinion must indeed be fact. :rolleyes:
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CT was a rogue nation.
I decided to hit him while he was in range...
What is so hard to understand about this?
I've hit rogue nations before... Why should just the alliances he was roguing get to play?So, just to be clear... its completely ok in the future that anytime a nation is at war with nations from another alliance as part of a war between two alliances? Any opportunist can hit them right?
So if NG attacked ODN someday? And you were at war with ODN nations, its perfectly fine for someone else to consider you a rogue and jump on?
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He chose to hit a rogue even if it rustled WTF's jimmies. Really, it's Mogar who should be upset. It's the only one who gets to rustle jimmies around here.
See, if it wasn't for the fact that I'm trying to have a reasonable discussion, while you just hammer away with the wrong information trying to get a rise out of whoever you can using typical OWF tactics? I might take you seriously enough to reply, again, addressing the CT/rogue situation. That said, just scroll back... or try your nonsense with someone else.
Cuba understood it on the first try once it was made clear, and he more than anyone would have reasonable justification to want to ignore the facts.
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I was never misled. I knew exactly what I was getting myself into Asa.
I hit CT because I chose to.
Nobody asked me to, I offered.
And I never asked Caustic to do anything. I made it clear internally that this was me hitting CT and I'd take whatever counter WTF threw my way with eagerness. If he said something different then please tell me.YOU flat out told tapley in-game you were hitting a rogue nation. Everyone with reading skills and who checked his war history could plainly see he wasn't one.
So, were you making up stories then with the excuse you used? Or now?
Were you misled? Or just lying?
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Llamastan is broken.
Send another toy.
KThnxYou know as well as most involved why your war slots purposely weren't filled. Please don't act tough for the crowd because you were misled and others were left to invest the time needed to fix the mess, that is needlessly disrespectful.
You're so mean, Asa. Poor ODN just wanted a honorable discussion!
I'm... sorry?
When WTF said similar things to us you didn't care.
WE will never say this isnt true, you began the direction the talk was going in. You can go crying that its raining when you asked for it in the first place.
Lets review some facts here.
Fact 1: As far as I can tell, WTF didn't feel threatened by any of our posts. They certainly havent told me they did.
Fact 2: ODN wasn't trying to threaten anyone. You can tell by the lack of acual threats made. This is a threat: "DO what I want, or else." This is NOT a threat: "We respect what you are doing, but were wondering if you could give us a time table to be done" See the difference?
Fact 3: The member you quoted (OS) was perfectly polite in his post. But you have decided to asign hidden meanings and atributes to his words because you really know what he was 'trying' to say. Why dont you read what he ACTUALLY said. Or if you want to know what he intended try the novel solution of asking him.
The irony of this, is WTF were far more aggressive in their posts than ODN. And had far more members being aggressive. Which is fine cause it didn't bother us. But due to purely political reasons, you are focused on ODN and not WTF.
1- Correct, not from an alliance who has to bring their 1000 friends into the discussion to try to get their way.
2- Anyone with half a brain and 10 minutes to burn can check the topic on the WTF forums and judge for themselves.
3- Really? Then why end the statement in such a vague manner instead of being clear cut and making attempts to appear non-threatening
I suspect, any alliance on CN, maybe even one day ODN... would respond the exact same way WTF did if the shoe was on the other foot.
Your high road is filled with pot holes.
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Regarding 1. You know that's BS, because you'd be much less likely to get your friends involved. And doing so? You would find yourselves as the new DBDC for WTF, with only a few of your nations being able to get out of range for the long term, and the democratic rest finding your choice to lead them to attack us? to be sometime they don't appreciate. You know what it would do to your membership strictly for attacking an alliance that was already hit unprovoked that you dog-piled on... then to have your membership in a war much much longer than ever imagined on top of it? Eeeeesh!
Regarding 2. Does that not break your very charter?
As it currently stands yes, but we could easily change laws for it.
So you were responding to me right? About easily changing your alliances charter in favor of accepting a nations already at war?
I'm surprised your friends haven't muzzled you yet. First you lie, then you want to change the foundation your alliance is constructed on to meet your personal desire not to look like a liar.
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1) If we wanted to attack WTF we would have done it.
2) If we would be DBDC lapdogs, noob cake would have already be accepted in the network.
Regarding 1. You know that's BS, because you'd be much less likely to get your friends involved. And doing so? You would find yourselves as the new DBDC for WTF, with only a few of your nations being able to get out of range for the long term, and the democratic rest finding your choice to lead them to attack us? to be sometime they don't appreciate. You know what it would do to your membership strictly for attacking an alliance that was already hit unprovoked that you dog-piled on... then to have your membership in a war much much longer than ever imagined on top of it? Eeeeesh!
Regarding 2. Does that not break your very charter?
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I am still very delighted that you are obsessed by ODN, but please don't take words out of the context:
Some WTF guy said he'll attack Overlord Shinnra and Peacheslll and i told him that if he would do that 1000 nations are expecting him.
Now let me explain what this means for the people with an IQ lower than 50 (check for yourselves what this means): it means that in the event of a direct atack on an ODN member, we will probably call our MD and oD parteners in.Your post on our forums:
Friar, you want to attack my 2 brothers who came here in peace. Do you even realize what you are saying? let me tell you, if ODN decides to go in, we go in with about 1000 nations. you realize we have a ton of allies? You think we are alone here? 9 years says a lot for us.
The fact ODN was willing to "come in" on DBDCs behalf was already previously established at this point that you made that reply. Which provoked our member, Friar, to reply the way he did when he said he would attack Shinnra and Peaches for their threats. Your reply on our forums quoted above, certainly does not suggest to anyone that your IQ is above 49... nor that the 1000 nations would rain fire and blood upon WTF because a single WTF member, Friar, attacked two of your members.
Not even a good try really. Sometimes I think English isn't your primary language, which would explain a lot, but something you should warn others about before you post. Maybe put it in your signature?
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Thanks.
Any idea what alliance that bug is a member of?
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The funny thing is you actually think you are winning. While dragging down a few lower ns DBDC members, you aren't really cracking any of their top 18. While you have wars on Cuba, what is the damage ratio? When he has more tech than your nations do infra and tech and land combined, the damage ratios are not in your favor. I get that you want to fight for months and months, but I've done, and most people here have done that and its boring. You feel emboldened by your anti DBDC cheerleaders waving their pom pomps from the sidelines and see you doing some damage so you puff your chest a bit, walk a little straighter, maybe with a bit of swag in your step telling yourselves "we're beating DBDC".
You guys aren't beating DBDC now. We'll see how a long fight works out for ya, but my money is on DBDC.
For the very last time so we can be done with this. Please, anyone, ANYONE show me and the rest of WTF where we EVER said we were winning. If someone else says it? It must be true then right? You say that we think we're winning... I say I think you must have a Scarface poster on your wall and a love for crappy movies than probably ends with you crying, because you were so motivated by their retread dialog that you try to pass it off UN-cleverly as your own.
I said it, so it must be true, right? Just like you're saying it, so it must be true.
Stop with the nonsense.
At the rate this is going they'll all be out of DBDC range so DBDC cannot continue attacks on them, thus achieving a lasting peace.
Also not true... which is why ODN has arrived in the first place.
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Ooooooh big words! Nice! Its almost as if you matter more with the greater use of syllables!
Never has "WTF opinion" been presented as fact. We honestly cant be bother to lie about things we care so little about. The truth has been presented as fact. Brute force en masse lies dont make something true just because one chimpanzee repeats it back after he learns it from another, like using a tool for the first time. Funny how you're accusation with proof was corrected on our forums with a pm from Cuba himself, and you never replied again. Though I suspect you were muzzled, for the second time, more than being too intelligent to be embarrassed by the clarification of what you [i]thought[/i] was true.
I would think the fact that no one in DBDC has ever posted in support of your statement should be enough. Apparently not.
You're internet-cool speak is cute, but not nearly as cute as you trying to come to the rescue of your lying compatriot by calling me horribly means names that will keep me awake all night.