Darvel
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The thought of harsh terms, which never made it anywhere near being official or public?Trying to extort millions in private channels away from the public eye where none can see is a trademark tactic of the NPO. Had Karma not intervened, MOON would have gotten away from it. I don't care that the end result is mere tech deals. They tried to extort. Period.It speaks volumes that Karma prevented MOON from doing what it had planned to do, I agree, but it also speaks volumes for MOON's own character that they even tried it at all, and I will not be silent until everyone knows. As for war, yes, defeat is not pleasant at all, and as I have stated I am more upset because the tech deal terms has validated hegemony propaganda by giving them an inch.
It was more a stupid PR move than anything else, because it was done in this war. There were other ways to do it, such as giving white peace and then arranging a mutual rebuilding plan. Why not do it that way? You accomplish the same thing without allowing the NPO to say "told you so."
And they would've gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for that meddling Karma!
o/ SAME TASTE DIFFERENT NAME \o
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I'm not sure that proves what you said at allThey were. GPA and GOONS were able to pass NPO because of the massive amount of nukes FAN was launching at them. Nukes launched from the number one alliance prior to the war.
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Who elected you? Who made you the higher moral authority?Yes yes, this is the nihilist argument.While NPO and its puppets enforced outrageous terms and PZI, etc, on largely innocent nations it is "the same" when it is done to them.
Just like it is "the same" when the state executes a murderer because he murdered an innocent person.
Nihilism. Foul, detestable nihilism.
Ah, I've made my mind up so you are wrong. Classic CN arguments itt.If you have any evidence of Valhalla not planning on honouring our treaties to fight in this war then go ahead and present it, I know the truth of the matter and no amount of spin you pull will convince me otherwise. If any of you had a clue about my alliance you would know we were never going to sit this out. From the looks of it you guys are in for a few more surprises. -
A who?... Or they plan ahead and have a plan B. (Its not like peace moders can't come during the war to give the aid)Meh, its just because there are so many Karma guys hungry for tech. In even fights, correct peace moding usually won the war.
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Their name was practically "THE BAD GUYS" so I guess not.So did the Unjust Path win the PR war? -
O hai 2007I haven't posted here until today but I must come to the defence of TPF ......WE ARE DOING WHAT IS RIGHT TRUE AND JUST ......I will never be ashamed of TPF and we are not going to be broken up ....you all have it very wrong .....we have proud,loyal members that will rather die than be taken into tyranny that this is all about ....KARMA wants to take out alliances that it doesn't agree with well ...let them keep coming the TPF will be waiting.
You didn't watch anything other than the films, did you dear?lol, nice one! It also helps that you have three times as many nations, but we can take it. This whole losing strength thing is just a ploy. We are lulling you into a false sense of security before we issue the mass beat-down. The Sith were purged once from the Galaxy (albeit one far, far away), and they can be again!o/ seemingly overwhelming odds
o/ TPF
o/ Molon Labe
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Imagine a plan that can be summarised by the name it's publically given! Oh subterfuge!I'm not theorizing or guessing. I'm stating a fact. You really think Karma just appeared out of thin air? -
I did this to GGA, NPO and IRON with my first nation. I never got off their PZI lists.
KARMA: SAME TASTE DIFFERENT NAME
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You found the right thread for this message.I Ducky, will NEVER EVER surrender!!!!!!!!Never will my nation surrender to a bunch of hoodlums! NPO FOREVER!!!!!!
All you Pacificans who surrender are cowards!
Long live the Moo!!!!!!!!!
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To: Ducky is King From: Sande Date: 4/28/2009 1:08:37 PM
Subject: Surrender!
Message: Hello. This is a message from the coalition of alliances currently at war with your alliance. This war is over, our side is twice the size of
yours, and we grow larger every day, while your side collapses. You do not need to get dragged to destruction for leaders that are too stubborn to know when to quit.
Simply Post a resignation here:
http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?s...&start=1040
Decomission your soldiers to less than 50% of your total population
Destroy your tanks, Cruise Missiles, Nuclear weapons and military improvements,
And change your alliance affilliation to Karma PoW
The send peace to those you are at war with, and it will all end.
Thank you.
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Stop spamming me as I am not interested in joining your worthless coalition of cowards!
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When the best thing about real life conversation is that there's no risk of Mogar jumping in to make it about him.
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Sucks to be you, shouldn't have been on the losing side.Voted no. GRL currently stands at 26.22, and it is still rising. At this rate, uncapping the effects of GRL would result in pretty much every nation in the game being financially crippled until a month after the war ends. The nations uninvolved in the fighting might be able to cope, but it would be a disaster for the nations struggling to rebuild from the war. -
Congratulations you must be among the 30,000 most tenacious players in CN.
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Thinking Mogar is an attention seeking wannabe martyr is an NPO trait now?I hear NPO is taking applicants still
Maybe I was wrong about those guys...
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You're not helping anyone, you're wearing a Boxxy avatar and complaining. Don't try and rationalise it.I always play the martyr in every war I'm in, especially when people are under my command, it's better to take your sins upon yourself than allow others to be punished for them. -
More reasons to prolong the war.And that's the reason. I'm going on forum silence from here until the duration of the war.
Really? I thought I saw you say that in every single topic you post in but I wasn't sure.I care aut.this, though I expect I might get PZI'd too, but I'll go down fighting if need be.
[Edit] Although if it's any consolation for the fact that no one of consequence cares enough to wish PZI on you, I wish you would delete and never come back.
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Our surrender terms are ready. If you can't find them, I'll gladly PM them to you. I see what you did there
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IT IS THE NPO ALLIANCE LINE NPO HAS NEVER LIED SHUT THE HELL UPSo PrinceCaspian, if surrender terms are being posted as a result of biting off more than you can chew, what was up with the whole offering surrenders to enemies of One Vision during the war on GATO? Was GATO too tough for you? Or...were you making use of a proven tactic to assist in your victory during a war which would enhance your own ability to wage war by freeing up slots and hurt the enemy's ability to resist?
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Cute. I too can regurgitate the exact line of the alliance. At least you didn't copy and paste a section of the message with a spelling mistake. However, have you considered that the message is calculatedly wrong?If you coordinate trolling on an internet forum, I pity your life.Seeing how Karma has announced these terms because they have discovered they bit off more than they can chew, I'd say we're doing quite well.
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In terms of game mechanics, which is all these terms affect, there comes a point after which you can no longer be of any service to your alliance. Bill locked by £19mil comes immediately to mind.Firstly it doesn't matter how much damage your pixels take, you can always be of use to your alliance, If not in war then behind the scenes. As all surrender terms require that you effectively resign from your alliance they limit your capacity to help the community that has often provided vast amounts of aid to increase an individual players personal enjoyment of the game and ability to play the game.That being said I understand why Karma has offered terms it is in their best interests to do so, just don't pretend like people are idiotic for not taking them.
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The MK propaganda corps has at last been deposed, oh the humanity
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You know as well as I do that every alliance accepts information.So attacking an alliance of spies in unjustified now? Glad to see Karma has honor. -
For all the omg hardcore Hegemony nations: Congratulations on not surrendering. I'm sure this has been noted and will terrify every member of the Karma Coalition from the top down.
I assume these terms were written with the intent that every nation with any connection with NPO would immediately surrender. They will be humbled by the tenacity of your resistance.
OR: Get over your individual selves. A lot of people play CN to build a nice little country for 10 minutes a day then go outside, others will've been destroyed to the extent that they can no longer be any more use on the AA than off it. Alliances like GGA do nothing to screen against this and as such have weak NS, alliances like MK hate stat-collectors and ghosts, and so have strong NS. There is a lot of weak NS on your side, so these terms are needed.
The 12 PoWs, including 5 on the green team, act as irrefutably strong testament to this.
I don't think that's true at all. Should GWI be re-enacted word for word, but with a stronger coalition advantage? Naive.This is very honorable, and something I thought karma was all for. If there is anything other than white peace at the end of "this conflict" for everyone involved (that wants it of course, can't account for those that would rather keep fighting), then karma will be no better than their enemies. -
I was gonna say, 102% is maybe a bit too much. It doesn't make Nemesis the best alliance pound-for-pound, not by any measure.I think there is a strategy in not full out blitzing throwing out these stats
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