Saintsmaen
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^^ I like you..
I do I swear.
I like your avatar. Have you had it for the last 2-3 years or something?
But seriously, I can't say I'm surprised Nintenderek was a major player in this. We need only look back at the Bubblegum War...
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So, how did you get those screenies guys?
When you lose sir, can I say it was the second time you killed Browncoats?
You're pathetic.
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Hurray for us!
*sips on water*
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And here I thought when I finished shoveling the alliance into its grave I thought that all this crap would be gone.
Oh how wrong I was.
*sigh*
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Hello children!
*returns back to hiding*
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I'd rather popcorn and beer over the rum!
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Way to typo my name.
*facepalm*
*throws out kegs of rum for all*
Yes. We can still afford rum
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It's a peace ironic I can now jump into war mode only after peace is declared.
*shifty eyes*
<3 Kevsterr
o/ the peace terms
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We've already made attempts.
I've gotten nothing back.
Hence putting the call out.
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Thanks for clearing that up raasaa
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I just noticed.
OOC:
I've been awake for nearly 48 hours.
First mistake for the ...long day.
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How can you say that?
We never agreed to any war.
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I think people need to understand that the (Edit: Fixed) NpO have said they don't care about us. It wasn't that they are doing the attacking or anything, pretty much they having the power in BDC have decided what they want to do in regards to BDC's relation with us.
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I don't mind either way that Hung Lo is on perma ZI, but may I ask why exactly he is?
Just curiousity striking here.
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So anyway. We're still waiting for anywhere we can go to talk peace.
All I'm seeing is trolling from those who agree with the DC, and confusion from people who don't.
Personally, I never even heard of the DC until they declared war on us. Shows how closed off to planet bob I was until 48 hours ago.
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Here is a question. Why is DC even involved here? BDC is, according to NpO, no longer a member of DC.
Why does DC care? Sorry if it was mentioned, I have read the thread but it seems to be all over the place.
Like Malkavis said, it's because it's us we're talking about.
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clearly you didn't read the CB very well.
All if for not anyway. Myworld made it clear.
EDIT: just want to add the link to Myworld's post.
And I tell you now, we at BC were told to scrap anything that zzz had said, and if you read that step, it said agreed by zzz.
SO, you tell me that BC were acting wrong when we were acting on behalf of our intel given.
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What??? It was a conspired war, in which the BDC was the aggressor. How in the hell can you say the Browncoats took any kind of action against BDC or the DCP??? And how can anyone buy this? Much less defend it?
History is written by the winners.
That's how the saying goes.
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I'm yet to hear a single thing as the MoFA. It'd be nice if one of the DC members PM'd me, registered on BC forums or told me where to go so we can start peace talks rather than troll their own bloody thread.
Edit: Your reasons 2 and 3 as for the decom and POW movement were wrong. They were allowed to stay as Browncoats, however there would be no protection, and no treaties whatsoever, so they would be completely defenseless to anyone attacking them. Reason 2, a lot of posts on the BDC forum (it's a public section if the posts aren't deleted already) state a lot of BC members as trying to decom, however weren't able to. It was only 48 hours about 4 hours before my post was done, long after we were told by BDC that anything zzz had said was to be ignored, and in my eyes, that included the surrender terms.
SECOND edit: I also like how when anything BDC guilty related is mentioned, it's just zzz, however it's the entire Browncoats alliance guilty, rather than just Schattenmann (sentenced to Perma ZI), Derek (retiring from alliances all together, probably will get a ZI) and Durim (kicked out of Browncoats). There seems to be a severe memory lapse that the membership revolted against the government the moment we all discovered the truth.
This next bit has nothing to do with Browncoats, rather a defense on my actions:
Ok. I had left Browncoats before the war had officially started, after my distaste for Schatennmann was at such a high level, I had had enough. I made the terrible mistake of going out before posting the final announcement, however my depature from BC was already done. I was not a Browncoats member when when the war had begun, and ended. I ended up getting a bit of tech raid beats because I sat on none AA for a bit. Myworld, maybe because you're in a situation at the moment where you never believe that you could wind up in a situation like this, but you'd do the exact same thing I did if your alliance was betrayed if you believed in what you stand for.
I was prepared to fight for the IAA, however I had already taken such a bad beating from Fraud War 2.0, my ability to fight for them would just have been a slot filler.
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What you'll notice about Schatt is he'll probably stay in peace mode until he's forgotten about, or he's trying to stir the pot as much as possible before his ZI (BC) and Perma ZI (NPO/DC) sentence is carried out.
Edit: Just ignore him. You all only feed him more reason to hang around.
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So... BDC and BC conspire together and the results for each part are as follows:
BDC: zzzptm gets removed from the alliance, asked to leave Black.
BC: entire government gets perma-ZI'd, Schatt sanctioned (thanks for keeping that trading sphere stable by sanctioning a 6k NS nation that had no power of destruction, Faith), and now the alliance gets beaten down for something they had no knowledge of.
If the reasoning behind BDC being spared is that the populace had no knowledge of the conspiracy, than why is BC being destroyed?
I'm glad to see that BDC will have a viceroy- hopefully that will solve some very apparent problems. Why not give BC a viceroy too? It seems to me that the conspirators in this case were relatively equal in their wrongdoing.
I reinforce that question again.
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Please,again,remind us why planet bob or the alliances you have offended and betrayed should give you the chance to exist? Please, don't mistake my inquiries, I am genuinely curious because it has been a set precedent over the past year that an aliance is held accountable to the leaders actions... There were several, not just one government member who were in on it. Had it been just 1 government member then I could understand mercy...but 3 or more??? This Is an incredibly poor showing. what little respect I had for you guys is long out the door. Good luck in your future endeavors I suppose.
The persons responsible for the occurrences between the BC v BDC 'Bubblegum' war had given none of their members the opportunity to oppose it. If you have taken the time to research the topic, you will find that the moment members of Browncoats had discovered this was a fraud, something was done about it in attempts to fix the situation as soon as possible. I understand your frustrations and questions and lack of respect, and I understand that the Browncoats, should we survive long enough in order to make an attempt to rectify the damage caused to us in a war and start moving forward as an alliance, will not just expect that treaties and former allies will be there and everything will be peachy clean.
All we ask for at the moment is time.
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Announcement from the temporary government of Browncoats
Following the recent controversies about the actions of Browncoats government, all Browncoats government members who were in government at the time of Schattenmann's actions have been removed from their positions [with the exception of Holloweyes, who will be interim leader until a new government is appointed]. At present they cannot be ejected from the alliance as we are still under surrender terms from BDC. The interim government is as follows:
HollowEyes - Prime Minister
Lamuella - Home Minister
Stuart Richards - Defense Minister
Saintsmaen - Foreign Minister
We are holding elections immediately for new government members. We ask for patience and indulgence from the international community as we try to resolve this difficulty. We are fully aware of the major issues that still need to be answered. We apologize for the actions of the previous government and have barred them from running for office.
A more complete statement will be issued soon. We ask the international community to give us the time we need to resolve this.
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not trying to troll... but does this mean that the BDC-BC war was actually due to 2 persons who didn't have the authority to post what they posted in the OWF??
Does this mean that the war could actually have been avoided altogether??
Sorry to get off topic here...
Basically the war was manufactured so that way BC and BDC would have had a 'reason' not to join their sides on the GATO v NPO battlefield.
But yes, a good move by the BDC so far.
I'm curious to see if they'll release all the BC POWs and drop the surrender altogether. Not that BC will be around for much longer at this rate, but that's my opinion and again getting off topic.
57th Overlanders DoW's BC 2.0
in Alliance Announcements (IC)
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Of course he did. He is if not worse than you for not having done anything to stop it. The coward just let you (how the hell are you still around?) play your meager game. Are you still jealous that I found you out for the fraud you were?