JustinCox
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Hey, $%&@ you.
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As far as I'm concerned, this should have happened two years ago. Ivan should have been the first and the fourth.
Congratulations, nevertheless, to the Pacifican Body Republic. As Emperor Cortath noted, the Body Republic is where the Emperor ultimately derives his power. I'm very happy to see the torch passed on.
Hail!
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In comparison to the reparations we paid in our surrender, these terms are just slightly worse, so I'd say its fair.
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...Edited out...
I was wrong. I will explain in another post.
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They are more than three colors.
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Pssshhhh!! Cut 'em off!
Austin is full of misinformed liberals who havn't taken the step toward becoming a Libertarian. Also, Oklahoma has the second highest execution rate in the United States, behind Texas, not Virginia. Also, just to be trivial, I'm from Texas and I happen to be against the State death penalty. The thought of the State being able to have people executed is a bit frightening. Gay marriage? End special tax perks to married couples, and get the State out of the licensing business. I have a feeling the only people who would give a damn at that point would be considered to be intolerant bigots.
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You can roll all the points into one ball: He does not like the terms offered to NPO.
Look, every Alliance in a war blathers and bleats, thumps their chests, trash talk, and trolls posts. They did it to us during GPW II, we did it back. Sure, Karma may be veering off the path a bit, who doesn't? This war is about addressing all the injustices that have been made against those in Bob for years. Pent up anger explodes, ask anyone who shot up a Post Office or a school. That is what you have here: Pent up anger exploding. There is no question there is BOTH revenge and justice being meted out. My question is why is Grub asking for leniency to an Alliance that has tried to destroy him, and vowed to destroy him in the future? That is what i cannot understand. If it is to become brothers again, I ask "Why?", especially when you have a group of people that actually ARE brothers who are more brothers than the Alliance he is trying to gain leniency for. Not an attack, but making a point.
Your demonstrating a particular informational selectiveness in your analysis of this situation. Below, I've bolded a few specifics from particular relevant segments of the Emperor's post which I'd recommend you read more carefully:
...I have seen the terms offered to Pacifica, they are pathetic and spiteful. I do not care about your maths, your thought process or your justifications for the terms, they are wrong to the very core. There is no conceivable justification that promotes the sense of community regulation contained in those terms. They are designed to fracture, humiliate and destroy, they are not punishment they are simply a kick to the head of a man lying bleeding in the gutter.
I have no great love for Pacifica, I will never justify what they do or say in any way, but as someone who knows the process of surrendering in the face of overwhelming defeat, I can not in good conscience stand by and let this community effectively destroy yet another chunk of itself in the name of revenge.
On the the 4th of July 2008 Polaris undertook some hard lessons, we were called to account. One year later I am publicly calling Karma to account. Punish Pacifica if you must, but end the spiteful and vindictive nature of these terms. The community needs better from you, lead from the front. Remove the peace mode stipulations, achieve the punishment the same way Polaris was punished for our peace mode nations and end this senseless quest. Take their filthy money, take their filthy technology and take their surrender, watch them closely but cease with the quest to destroy them whether directly or by stealth.
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Bearing this in mind, I think that your analysis of the Emperor's decree is a bit flawed. You've asserted in your post that the Emperor is demanding leniency in the peace terms offered to the Pacific. However, I don't think anybody here could argue that the terms we recieved following the Second Patriotic War (as we refer to it) were at all lenient. The final portion of the selections from the Emperor's post are emphasized to carry this point. There is a middle ground here. This force calling themselves Karma have been in argument over the peace terms following this war since the war began, but yet the individual alliances making up this coalition are selectively practicing leniency ranging from a white peace to light peace terms while others are attempting to issue peace terms which will yield nothing but a continuation of the powers the Pacific have had stripped away from them. The Emperor is asserting that the peace terms given should not aim to destroy the community of any alliance, the very actions which seem to have led to this point, but that they should aim to punish those alliances which have acted against this principle.
EDIT: I suppose Grub beat me to it.
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While I do not formally speak for my alliance, I believe that I can speak for the Body Republic of the New Polar Order when I respectfully congratulate Sir Winslow, Sir W_A_R, and Dame Hime Themis on their ascensions to the Council of Knights, and of course to Squire Floyd.
Long live the Queen and her Order!
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In a statement released by VektorZero, it was revealed that "the members of Frostbite and the Pacific Order believe that we've screwed each other so much that at this point getting married seems like the only practical course of action."
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We? Lol!
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Dude, Bodingtons is excellent!!! "The Cream of Manchester! If your not a Manc, your a Wank!"
The first thing you'd notice about the beer is that you'll need to crack open the can before opening it all the way. Its under such a pressure to maintain its creaminess that it tends to spray out a bit. Pour it into a glass. It pours excellently, producing an upside down waterfall to give it its rich, creamy head. Enjoy it cold, as it says on the can! I'd recommend that all of you try Bodingtons. It is a bit bitter, but the creaminess completely makes up for it. Drink a few and you'll be feeling nice and cheeky.
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I love these announcements! New Polar Order never seems to be on the lists!
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Oh shi!
Tomorrow's Amazing Sanction Race will be pretty cool! Plus, your merging with our Sith breathran!
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The 7th Chamber (Part II) - Wu-Tang Clan
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The group of alliances fighting the Pacific could always offer false peace terms just for the means of getting the upper tiers out of peace mode. I'm sure a move like that would be controversial, but ultimately, I'd be indifferent toward it.
Edit: Or, for the sake of some semblance of honor in warfare, they could provide peace terms without any protection, allowing the Pacific to defend itself, allowing another coaltion of alliances to finish them off.
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Truly an historic momemt
o/ Polaris
o/ Pacifica
o/ The Orders
Correction:
o/ Polaris
o/ The Order
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I always thought Pope Pius came up with that one
There is a thread on our forums about the issue people were having in distinguishing either alliance following our creation. It is probably still there. I'm too lazy to look right now though.
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All hail the Emperor!
I couldn't be more pleased with the wisdom the Emperor has shown in his decision here today.
Hail the Almighty Grub!
Hail the Order!
Edit: Also, hail our comrades who have found themselves separated from the Order! (You know who you are!
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White peace under the condition that the imperial government of Pacifica (at least, and perhaps that of other One Vision and/or Continuum alliances, depending on the extent of their crimes) are placed under PZI, meaning that their IC nations will never be able to play again, but that the player behind the nation could play under a different character. The Karma coalition would not have the authority to determine whom the government would be replaced with. That would be for the Pacificans (or whomever else) to decide.
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4. Crymson stated our defense of Polaris for so long proved we didn't care about what TOP thought.
Some defense.
I'm not in on the dark IRC conversations, but from my point of view, you ditched Polaris, actively working against her, in order to maintain the posture you created for Pacifica. If you had truly defended us, you'd have been fallen along with us, and it would have righted the wrongs which initially brought about the split between us.
There is a reason we called our fall the Second Patriotic War. The only thing lacking was the support of our Pacifican brothers. Thanks.
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The Second Great Patriotic War.
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34 hasn't been easy.....
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I didn't read that one because it failed so badly. who reads a colour poll for team colours you've never been on?
^ This. :lol: x5
Edit: I voted GGA. Seems like they're the worst by a landslide.
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Hopefully the next GATO (Yep, not spanish cat alliance.) announcement we see will involve the end of viceroyality. If I recall properly, it has been a very, very long time since the alliance was bounded by that term. At any rate, congratulations to the citizens of GATO on their new government! Personally, I hope the optimism which was expressed in the solidarity of this government in the OP pays of for the alliance. Good luck!
In RL: Why would anybody put up JMKeynes as Minister of Finance!? How about LvMises?
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Signed, JustinCox, Sovereign of the Liberated Terretories of Northeast Sardenga-Arzachena (LTNESA).
You have my support.
One last beer review...
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You outta try Saint Arnold's Divine #9. I recently had it and was blown away. Its a shame I'll probably never have one again.