[Christendom is Cancelled in Camelot]

12 hours ago, lilweirdward said:

Requesting mods to lock this thread when possible. I don't see much good left to come from here.

Done. 

[Dear God I hate discord!]

 

This thread is from 2018.  No grave dig please.

[Who will win]

6 hours ago, Noctis Lucis Caelum said:

Due to unmentionable methods we don't have any rich nations able to fund the rest,

You are STILL mentioning the nation.  Drop it.

[I got a new flag design]

One thread per topic.  This one is here:

 

 

[Announcement and Resolution of the Communist Party of the Union of Communist Republics]

13 minutes ago, Yolo04 said:

Again do any of you know a good flag designer or a program I can design one in

This is not the place to ask a question like that.  Keep to the topic of this thread.  Read the forum rules to know where to place what comments.  PM me in private if you can not figure it out by reading the forum rules.

[Aevum Update]

13 hours ago, Noctis Lucis Caelum said:

I think you posted enough me reporting or revealing more should be unnecessary. 

 

2 hours ago, Jack Layton said:

I never made any threats to you with respect to your information. Quite the opposite, actually. I explicitly told you that I wouldn't reveal anything on multiple occasions. 

 

Both of you are posting OOC and talking about issues best left to mods.  You can make reports to moderation if you think rules have been violated.  

 

Any further talk along these lines will result in warns being handed out.

[A Declaration from the Bears with Guns and Lasers]

This topic has turned into nothing but trolling.  Locked.

[The Blood Imperium Pact 2.0]

4 hours ago, Immortan Junka said:

 

Methrage confirmed 

 

3 hours ago, Noctis Lucis Caelum said:

Believe what you want, but you're completely off base. Repeating these baseless accusations just makes you look more crazy and out of touch with reality.

 

3 hours ago, Noctis Lucis Caelum said:

You have this propaganda version Methrage and the rebel in your head, where you think comparing people to them is like a comparison to Satan.

 

Although when I look back on the forum, I think they mostly fought on the side of the underdog and willing to take on wannabe tyrants. So when you compare Khan for example to the rebel, I think that adds more legitimacy to his fight if true.

 

It doesn't change that you're wrong, but throwing these accusations around could be backfiring. The way I read it when you compared Khan to the rebel is Khan according to you has some long standing reason to war you. When you compared me to Methrage, it make me realize you're not very used to being challenged publicly & find it easier to throw a baseless accusation around than refute any of their points. You've brainwashed yourself into believing your propaghanda, but Methrage & the rebel seemed to be some of the last moralists in this game and it doesn't make you seem like a good guy when you emphasize being their enemy on the way out.

 

Looking up Methrage, I see he fought heavily outnumbered while sanctioned to gain a Senate Seat before there was a free Senate on Brown. Then established the Libertarian Party of Cybernations. Rather than show any respect for deceased founder of the organization you say you're part of, you emphasize he was fighting you on the way out. That doesn't reflect well on you or your claim to taking over the organization he started.

 

NpO, NSO or NPO don't bad mouth Ivan Moldavi in public regardless of how the split went, but you feeling the need to constantly demonize Methrage makes it seem like your grasp on control is falling apart.

 

2 hours ago, Immortan Junka said:

You should write a big OWF thread about the sacrifice of Methrage and how LPCN sold out to evil ISX.

 

Enough already.

 

Immortan Junka - you have been around long enough to know where to report it to moderation if you think there is a rule violation.  

 

Noctis - I can point out where to complain if a forum member is bothering you if you feel it is necessary.  Or do some review of the forum and I'm sure you can find it.

 

Both - the topic here is a treaty and not a place for personal accusations and personal defenses.  I'll pass out warns next time.

[legionnaires disease 2319 2319!!!!]

On ‎2‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 7:46 PM, Immortan Junka said:

 

Yeah except that never happened, you guys were telling us you would attack us if we defended our ally Animalz against a Monsters Inc attack.

 

On ‎2‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 8:20 PM, Immortan Junka said:

TLDR people are mad because they couldn't keep hitting Roal36 or Animalz, but for some reason they are mad at me instead of Banned even though both of us were on the same page.

 

Man was the VG treaty a waste of time, only thing good that came out of the war was wiping out Methrage and gaining Animalz as allies, and we needed no help doing that.

 

On ‎2‎/‎9‎/‎2017 at 6:57 AM, Jay Kay said:

Reading his posts and looking at the old wars he references, he has a strong case of victim complex.

 

On ‎2‎/‎9‎/‎2017 at 9:12 AM, LordDarrin said:

Aggression that we threatened? LOL keep reaching..I told you i would upheld a treaty you signed bc you were reaching to hit Hitchcock lol..chalking up lame charges for something for a war and you play the "peaceful" alliance ...shut up

 

On ‎2‎/‎9‎/‎2017 at 2:12 PM, Montezuma said:

I don't think any of u hated junka more then us animalz

 

On ‎2‎/‎9‎/‎2017 at 5:02 PM, Lord Hitchcock said:

 

 

Oh look, there's mah whipping boy.

 

buy troops noob

Everyone remember to stay on topic.  This was a declaration of war against The Legion by Monster's Inc. 

[Edit wrong forum]

22 hours ago, Immortan Junka said:

 

 

Anyway this thread was meant for boiler room, not discussing some rogue, so toodles.

Thread locked.  You're welcome. 

[Reboot Initiation Sequence Started]

Back on topic, please.

[The Purge]

On 10/26/2016 at 2:20 PM, ericsw said:

Gracias por su ayuda en la derrota de estos tiranos!! 

 

On 10/26/2016 at 2:20 PM, Montezuma said:

si claro eric

 

On 10/26/2016 at 2:37 PM, ericsw said:

Presto hay un bastón para dar al perro

 

On 10/26/2016 at 4:32 PM, General Kanabis said:

Your English is far more proficient than Roal's. Your will to fight also exceeds his by miles. 

 

Nuestros amigos se toparon otra vez, mi compa, pero todo bien. Asi es la vida.

 

(Translation: Our friends have bumped heads once again, but it's all good, my friend. That's life)

 

 

Forum rules: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/announcement/50-cyber-nations-forum-rules/

 

Please keep the discussion in english.  Thank you.

[Gentle Friends, I Need Your Guidance]

The correct area to make a report of the type being implied here is the following:

http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/forum/19-moderation/

 

 

[Operasi Puputan (Nusantara Declaration)]

6 hours ago, Blackatron said:

When wars go on as long as this, you have to wonder what counts as gravedigging.

 

I do wonder why all of these alliances seem to be intent on permawar, is no one able to translate from English to Indonesian?

Locked thread.  Your point is arguable and I'm not giving out a warning to anyone.  On the other hand, when a DoW thread is so old that discussion has stopped, it gets confusing if it the threads begins again.  So in this case, I'm just going to lock it.  I'll mention the issue to other mods regarding any future cases.  As a relatively new mod, I'm not sure what has been done in the past.

 

My suggestion is that if people want to talk about the length of a war and all the DoW's are too old, start a new thread here:

http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/forum/71-world-affairs-ic/

[TRUST CONTRACT.]

On 8/8/2016 at 6:28 AM, RYZHKND said:

>First, stop with the caps lock.

 

1. YOU MEAN "CAPITAL LETTERS", OR "UPPERCASE LETTERING", NOT "CAPS LOCK"; "CAPS LOCK" IS JUST THE NAME OF A KEY ON KEYBOARDS.

 

2. WHY?

 

 

Because in addition to generally annoying others,  it is against the forum rules.

http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/announcement/50-cyber-nations-forum-rules/

 

Posting in All Caps
Posting large amounts of text in capital letters is not permitted. Use discretion when using your caps lock key.

 

 

As long as you can keep  to the rules of the forum, feel free to continue.

 

[Time for a hail Mary?]

I'm all for people suggesting ways to improve retention and draw new players to the game in a POSITIVE fashion, but we have a suggestion forum for people to submit proposals for changes.  Locked.

[6M Money for 100 tech anyone?]

Moved to Black Market.  This is where you put offers for tech deals and donation deals.

[Imperium Recognition of War]

On 7/12/2016 at 1:59 AM, Immortan Junka said:

 

[7/10/2016 10:56:28 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]:  If they are using multis that is a issue better resolved by the game administration, not I.

 

Reminder to everyone:  Even if you are quoting logs, OWF forum rules still apply.  Thank you.

[48hr notice to disband- Statement from Monsters Inc]

On 7/11/2016 at 10:29 PM, Immortan Junka said:

Here are the complete logs of the negotiations, including a backdrop of threats from Caustic, and separately listed below are statements by Sengoku directly supporting Monsters Inc demand that SCOTLAND accept terms or be forcibly disbanded:

[7/10/2016 10:56:28 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]:  If they are using multis that is a issue better resolved by the game administration, not I.

 

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[7/10/2016 10:31:02 AM] * You have joined #scotlandtalks
[7/10/2016 10:31:02 AM] * Topic is 'Solving the Scotland probem through diplomacy'
[7/10/2016 10:31:02 AM] * Topic set by hartfw on Sun Jul 10 09:58 2016
[7/10/2016 10:31:28 AM] Pansy (IceChat78@coldfront-D3A3C000.cable.virginm.net) has joined #scotlandtalks
[7/10/2016 10:32:50 AM] @hartfw: hi
[7/10/2016 10:32:55 AM] RightHonorable: Hello
[7/10/2016 10:33:28 AM] hartfw changes topic to 'Solving the Scotland question through diplomacy'
[7/10/2016 10:33:39 AM] @hartfw: better than calling it a mispelled problem
[7/10/2016 10:33:49 AM] hartfw is now known as hartfw[Cowboys]
[7/10/2016 10:34:16 AM] RightHonorable is now known as RightHonorable[SNX]
[7/10/2016 10:34:36 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: not sure if you know pansy and L_H or if they should tag up?
[7/10/2016 10:35:18 AM] L_H: howdy
[7/10/2016 10:35:23 AM] Pansy: Sorry, I don't tag
[7/10/2016 10:35:31 AM] L_H: what's a tag?
[7/10/2016 10:35:55 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: an allaince affiliation after one's name
[7/10/2016 10:35:55 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: The brackets after the nick with the alliance abbreviation
[7/10/2016 10:36:02 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: alliance
[7/10/2016 10:36:02 AM] L_H: ah
[7/10/2016 10:36:03 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: nailed it
[7/10/2016 10:36:21 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: I do when conducting official business if it makes people feel more comfortable
[7/10/2016 10:36:36 AM] L_H: Right Honorable, identify yourself in game
[7/10/2016 10:36:54 AM] L_H: http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=549745
[7/10/2016 10:37:06 AM] L_H: ^send this nation a message
[7/10/2016 10:37:48 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: Done
[7/10/2016 10:41:24 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Not to prejudge here
[7/10/2016 10:41:41 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: But how has the first 11 days of being in snx been?
[7/10/2016 10:42:09 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: Decent enough,
[7/10/2016 10:42:23 AM] L_H: first 11 days in existence...
[7/10/2016 10:43:14 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: Well I have been around longer, just under a different name
[7/10/2016 10:44:16 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Ah, any chance I knew that name?
[7/10/2016 10:45:14 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: Probably not, bit since you are interested it was CobaltWolf
[7/10/2016 10:47:29 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: which alliance?
[7/10/2016 10:47:34 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: TSO
[7/10/2016 10:47:36 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: That name is vaguely familiar
[7/10/2016 10:47:43 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Ah
[7/10/2016 10:48:42 AM] L_H: right honorable, are you representing snx and / or scotland in these peace talks?
[7/10/2016 10:49:09 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: I am representing SNX
[7/10/2016 10:51:05 AM] L_H: so tell me about the multi ring in scotland, a splinter off of a former well known tech ring
[7/10/2016 10:53:41 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: Since we do not deal in finger pointing I will not be able to answer that question.
[7/10/2016 10:53:58 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: I do think it is a question
[7/10/2016 10:54:03 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: of fundamental importance
[7/10/2016 10:54:28 AM] L_H: i could provide more details if you'd like, although i do want to see how honest you are
[7/10/2016 10:54:29 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: To the extent that Scotland may be viewed as a collection of rogue nations undertaking in heinous actions against what is allowed
[7/10/2016 10:54:44 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: The very nature of them as an alliance is under attack, no?
[7/10/2016 10:56:28 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]:  If they are using multis that is a issue better resolved by the game administration, not I.
[7/10/2016 10:57:15 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: On the otherhand, defending that would be wrong, no?
[7/10/2016 10:57:35 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: I;m not presuming guilt here
[7/10/2016 10:57:54 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: But if you are aware of it and defend it, aren't you tacitly an accomplice?
[7/10/2016 10:58:45 AM] L_H: ^ this
[7/10/2016 10:58:45 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: If there is solid proof I will pass it along to my gov't for consideration. I am not aware of anything improper at this point in Scotland
[7/10/2016 11:00:58 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: However at this point you are just making accusations without factual backing
[7/10/2016 11:02:13 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: I think its more
[7/10/2016 11:02:22 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: establishing the result of what actual backing would be
[7/10/2016 11:02:29 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: If the result of actual backing is nothing
[7/10/2016 11:02:34 AM] mib_e30cac (Mibbit@coldfront-2D686596.cable.virginm.net) has joined #scotlandtalks
[7/10/2016 11:02:37 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Then the desire to provide actual backing is none
[7/10/2016 11:02:48 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Hello mib_e30cac
[7/10/2016 11:03:18 AM] L_H: hang on, i'm actually finding the specifics for you
[7/10/2016 11:03:27 AM] L_H: looking through logs right now
[7/10/2016 11:04:20 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: mib_e30cac, Mind letting us know who you are?
[7/10/2016 11:11:15 AM] Galerion (Galerion@coldfront-BC6C07A7.cable.virginm.net) has joined #scotlandtalks
[7/10/2016 11:11:51 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: Hello there Galerion, thanks for showing up
[7/10/2016 11:12:01 AM] Galerion: np
[7/10/2016 11:13:17 AM] L_H: and also, RH, I want to be clear, whether they are multies are not is not our primary conflict here. Although I am curious
[7/10/2016 11:13:40 AM] Pansy: The problem with Scotland is that it's full of Scots!
[7/10/2016 11:15:01 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: spoken like a welshman
[7/10/2016 11:15:49 AM] Pansy: actually, an English King
[7/10/2016 11:16:02 AM] Pansy: #braveheartjokes
[7/10/2016 11:16:02 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: [mib_e30cac] (Mibbit@coldfront-2D686596.cable.virginm.net): http://www.mibbit.com
[7/10/2016 11:16:02 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: * [mib_e30cac] #scotlandtalks #cnknights
[7/10/2016 11:16:20 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: WOuld love to have everyone identify for the sake of diplomacy
[7/10/2016 11:16:31 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: anyone know who this fine gentleman is?
[7/10/2016 11:16:36 AM] mib_e30cac (Mibbit@coldfront-2D686596.cable.virginm.net) has left #scotlandtalks
[7/10/2016 11:16:39 AM] L_H: Lord Hitchcock, Monsters Inc
[7/10/2016 11:16:44 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: Never mind then
[7/10/2016 11:16:50 AM] L_H: nation name: Brittben
[7/10/2016 11:17:00 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: lol
[7/10/2016 11:17:15 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: I'm hartfw from Cowboys.
[7/10/2016 11:17:42 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: RightHonorable from Supernova X
[7/10/2016 11:17:45 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: My interest here is making sure my L_H is satisfied with the resolution, and I persoanlly have no direct qualms with Scotland
[7/10/2016 11:18:03 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: A pot of coffee and some diplomacy, lets see where we end up.
[7/10/2016 11:19:04 AM] Pansy: Pansy - Sengoku/Reavers part time Cowboy
[7/10/2016 11:19:26 AM] L_H: he's only part time because we can't afford to pay benefits
[7/10/2016 11:19:45 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: No pension, no deal
[7/10/2016 11:19:52 AM] L_H: lol
[7/10/2016 11:21:20 AM] L_H: what happend to mib?
[7/10/2016 11:21:31 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: i asked who he was
[7/10/2016 11:21:33 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: and he left
[7/10/2016 11:25:59 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: Perhaps he was wondering about brexit, we shall never know
[7/10/2016 11:27:32 AM] L_H: i'm still wondering about that
[7/10/2016 11:27:40 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: What?
[7/10/2016 11:27:46 AM] L_H: brexit
[7/10/2016 11:28:04 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: What about it?
[7/10/2016 11:28:11 AM] L_H: outside of EU being a fall back for the UK gov, lots and lots of concerns with how they plan to pursue and keep their brexit promises
[7/10/2016 11:29:27 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: I think more will be made clear after the Conservative leadership election
[7/10/2016 11:31:40 AM] L_H: so has snx been in contact with scotland?
[7/10/2016 11:33:31 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: Not myself directly, but other members of our government have
[7/10/2016 11:33:53 AM] L_H: does scotland plan on attending this summit?
[7/10/2016 11:34:06 AM] L_H: or have the allowed you to represent them?
[7/10/2016 11:34:41 AM] L_H: as do have some grave concerns we'd like to address with them
[7/10/2016 11:35:16 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: Actually neither I nor Valerian know if a representative from Scotland will be here
[7/10/2016 11:35:34 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: *Galerion
[7/10/2016 11:35:49 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: Stupid touch keyboard
[7/10/2016 11:35:55 AM] L_H: as I have noticed they just recieved a rejection vote for a micro bloc they were applying to
[7/10/2016 11:36:22 AM] L_H: mainly on the basis of a very possible war
[7/10/2016 11:36:44 AM] L_H: are you aware of those details?
[7/10/2016 11:37:59 AM] L_H: as it was a concern to us considering some of those participates have ill-intentions towards our alliance
[7/10/2016 11:39:22 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: I am aware re. The micro bloc. Let me find the specifics
[7/10/2016 11:40:17 AM] L_H: quite hypocritical to think that when M Inc wants to form a micro bloc everyone freaks out- yet it's quite clear a micro bloc was forming (even when we were told it wasn't)
[7/10/2016 11:40:39 AM] L_H: i wonder why they would do some behind out backs?
[7/10/2016 11:40:44 AM] L_H: so*
[7/10/2016 11:40:52 AM] L_H: our*
[7/10/2016 11:41:11 AM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: I wouldn't ever want to be in a micro bloc that would have me.
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[7/10/2016 11:42:40 AM] RightHonorable[SNX]: L_H that is a question better directed to the government of Scotland, that is strictly their business
[7/10/2016 11:53:12 AM] L_H: i'm glad we got their attention over this matter
[7/10/2016 12:08:15 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: sarcasm aside
[7/10/2016 12:08:26 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: it does seem like solving differences through talking
[7/10/2016 12:08:35 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: is tough without the people with the differences
[7/10/2016 12:12:26 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: Agreed, I do think that L_H should outline his grievance with Scotland
[7/10/2016 12:16:29 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: is tywin unavailable?
[7/10/2016 12:16:39 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: I saw he posted in the topic
[7/10/2016 12:17:01 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: For the time being, he isn't on our IRC
[7/10/2016 12:18:59 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Okay
[7/10/2016 12:19:05 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: If at a later time Scotland shows up
[7/10/2016 12:19:11 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: And I am no longer here
[7/10/2016 12:19:13 PM] L_H: <RightHonorable[SNX]>: Agreed, I do think that L_H should outline his grievance with Scotland
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[7/10/2016 12:19:22 PM] L_H: <RightHonorable[SNX]>: L_H that is a question better directed to the government of Scotland, that is strictly their business
[7/10/2016 12:19:26 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Heya Morphine
[7/10/2016 12:19:29 PM] L_H: ^
[7/10/2016 12:19:39 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Good to see ya again
[7/10/2016 12:19:41 PM] Morphine: How are you guys
[7/10/2016 12:19:50 PM] L_H: pretty good, just opened a beer
[7/10/2016 12:19:56 PM] L_H: sunday funday
[7/10/2016 12:20:08 PM] Morphine: Question is what kind of beer
[7/10/2016 12:20:15 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Pansy,are you unavailable once the football starts?
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[7/10/2016 12:24:12 PM] Morphine: So may i ask? What is it exactly that Minc wants out of this? Assuming its resolved diplomatically, there is obvious something thats unnegiotable so lets start with thay
[7/10/2016 12:25:17 PM] L_H: hang on one sec
[7/10/2016 12:30:56 PM] L_H: back
[7/10/2016 12:31:24 PM] L_H: I think first and foremost, it is best for a scotland gov member to be present in the talks
[7/10/2016 12:31:52 PM] L_H: righthonorable mentioned a great point that our concerns should be expressed to them directly
[7/10/2016 12:33:08 PM] Morphine: Agreed but they dont seem like they know what IRC is so
[7/10/2016 12:33:39 PM] Morphine: It might be best if you list your demands and SNX forwards them to SCOTLAND
[7/10/2016 12:33:53 PM] Morphine: Especially since we have 24 hours to get this solved
[7/10/2016 12:34:17 PM] Pansy: I fail to see why adding a middle man is the "best" way
[7/10/2016 12:34:32 PM] Pansy: forward them directly to Scotland
[7/10/2016 12:35:21 PM] Morphine: Because and dont take this the wrong way but
[7/10/2016 12:35:34 PM] Morphine: SCOTLAND is likely to agree just to about anything at this point
[7/10/2016 12:35:45 PM] Morphine: And i dont want them to be taken advantage of
[7/10/2016 12:36:02 PM] Pansy: So advise them accordingly
[7/10/2016 12:36:06 PM] Morphine: So instead of forwarding the terms to SCOTLAND and then us having to ask scotland what the terms are
[7/10/2016 12:36:17 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: Well they should have a part in these discussion along with us
[7/10/2016 12:36:19 PM] Pansy: it's not down to Itchy to add in middlemen
[7/10/2016 12:37:11 PM] Morphine: It wouldnt be a discussion. Just a simple idea of terms so we can have an idea where we stand in this.
[7/10/2016 12:38:58 PM] Pansy: I'm not sure about others, but this circlejerk is a giant waste of time without the star attraction
[7/10/2016 12:39:26 PM] Pansy: So contacting them directly is the only option
[7/10/2016 12:40:01 PM] Pansy: Seeing as right now, it's got zip all to do with any of us spectators
[7/10/2016 12:40:08 PM] L_H: i agree with pansy on this
[7/10/2016 12:40:48 PM] L_H: and my thoughts on snx, is that their 'middle man' intentions are more-or-less PR pick ups
[7/10/2016 12:40:54 PM] Morphine: Okay so we get them here. Honorable, can you tell someone in their govt to get their ass on
[7/10/2016 12:41:08 PM] L_H: who are their gov members?
[7/10/2016 12:41:26 PM] L_H: i'll message them in-game and will have them use Mibbit, it's an easy irc way
[7/10/2016 12:41:31 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: Well Galerion is here but he is at work for the time being
[7/10/2016 12:41:43 PM] Morphine: Galerion is SNX govt
[7/10/2016 12:42:02 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: I think he was talking about Scotland
[7/10/2016 12:42:41 PM] L_H: morphine, what connection do you have with the talks being that you reside in VG?
[7/10/2016 12:43:25 PM] L_H: n/m, i misread, thinking it was VE
[7/10/2016 12:43:37 PM] L_H: is VG allied to Scotland?
[7/10/2016 12:44:08 PM] L_H: and your tie to snx is through an ODP, correct?
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[7/10/2016 12:44:41 PM] Caustic: SHARK WEEK
[7/10/2016 12:44:43 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: I invited Caustic here
[7/10/2016 12:44:50 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: With good intentions
[7/10/2016 12:45:13 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: As he has ties with both Cowboys and some otehr actors
[7/10/2016 12:45:21 PM] L_H: hello caustic
[7/10/2016 12:45:22 PM] Pansy: I'm not sure those have ever been put together
[7/10/2016 12:45:34 PM] Pansy: caustic and good intentions
[7/10/2016 12:45:39 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Cowboys are helping unite CN
[7/10/2016 12:45:46 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: in a wide diversity of ways
[7/10/2016 12:46:02 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: We were one of the first to advocate for LN's formal right to exist
[7/10/2016 12:46:19 PM] L_H: for the record, what shark week ment to you, junka took it as "A year ago there were people who desired to "exterminate" Supernova X from this world"
[7/10/2016 12:46:55 PM] L_H: @ Morphine, VG has an Odp with snx, correct?
[7/10/2016 12:47:26 PM] L_H: <hartfw[Cowboys]>: We were one of the first to advocate for LN's formal right to exist
[7/10/2016 12:47:28 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: To be honest certain alliances did want to eliminate SNX
[7/10/2016 12:47:34 PM] L_H: ^and they haven't caused any problems
[7/10/2016 12:47:38 PM] Morphine: ODoAP
[7/10/2016 12:47:54 PM] Caustic: listen
[7/10/2016 12:47:57 PM] Caustic: shark week means one thing
[7/10/2016 12:47:59 PM] Caustic: Im hungry
[7/10/2016 12:48:01 PM] Caustic: and I want some fun
[7/10/2016 12:48:08 PM] Caustic:
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[7/10/2016 12:48:42 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Okay, so doing formal introductions again
[7/10/2016 12:48:49 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: hartfw -- Cowboys
[7/10/2016 12:48:53 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: L_H MINC
[7/10/2016 12:48:56 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Caustic -- NG
[7/10/2016 12:48:59 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Galerion -- SNX
[7/10/2016 12:49:02 PM] Pansy: Pansy - Sengoku/Reavers part time Cowboy
[7/10/2016 12:49:08 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Morphine -- VG
[7/10/2016 12:49:09 PM] L_H: Morhpine- VG
[7/10/2016 12:49:15 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: RightHonorable[SNX] -- SNX (lol)
[7/10/2016 12:49:27 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Roquentin -- Umbrella
[7/10/2016 12:49:35 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Scotland is still missing, as is methrage
[7/10/2016 12:49:43 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: L_H, have you messaged him?
[7/10/2016 12:52:03 PM] L_H: i'll do it right now, i was tyring to figure out what/who their gov was
[7/10/2016 12:52:23 PM] L_H: i'd also like to invite unknowm smurf to represent us
[7/10/2016 12:53:17 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: he tends to muddle stuff up imo
[7/10/2016 12:53:31 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: I'm not sure thats as productive as it could be
[7/10/2016 12:53:54 PM] Galerion: St Mungo is the person to contact in scotland
[7/10/2016 12:54:03 PM] Pansy: US would have to agree to separate the current conflicts
[7/10/2016 12:54:20 PM] Pansy: I'm not here to discuss his issue
[7/10/2016 12:54:36 PM] L_H: messaged him, along with how to use IRC
[7/10/2016 12:54:52 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: thats good.  Unknown smurf often messes that up.
[7/10/2016 12:54:53 PM] Morphine: What a gentleman
[7/10/2016 12:55:21 PM] L_H: so how is VG?
[7/10/2016 12:56:09 PM] Morphine: Great. Finally making some progress. Just growing now. How is Minc?
[7/10/2016 12:57:11 PM] L_H: pretty good. just probing terrorist
[7/10/2016 12:57:25 PM] Caustic: so I have a question
[7/10/2016 12:57:27 PM] L_H: being a dominant micro has it's draw backs, lots and lots of work
[7/10/2016 12:57:30 PM] Caustic: what right does SNX have to exist?
[7/10/2016 12:57:39 PM] Caustic: and are you willing to defend said right to the end?
[7/10/2016 12:58:49 PM] Morphine: So what makes an alliance a dominant micro?
[7/10/2016 12:58:51 PM] L_H: M Inc does not have to worry about VG, they are here diplomatically
[7/10/2016 12:58:54 PM] L_H: <Morphine>: I consider our NAP to trump anything between us and Scotland
[7/10/2016 12:59:06 PM] L_H: <Morphine>: But if i cant help in a military way, then I want to be there diplomatically.
[7/10/2016 12:59:29 PM] Morphine: Couldve asked lol i wouldve said it here also
[7/10/2016 1:00:35 PM] Caustic: so you don't have an answer to my question
[7/10/2016 1:00:36 PM] Caustic: lovely
[7/10/2016 1:00:41 PM] Caustic: I shall take this news back to my horde
[7/10/2016 1:01:29 PM] L_H: morphine answer him, he is a short fuse!
[7/10/2016 1:01:38 PM] Morphine: What was the question?
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[7/10/2016 1:02:50 PM] Immortan_Junka: Greetings from the Imperium
[7/10/2016 1:02:55 PM] Morphine: If its the question about SNX, then we are here about SCOTLAND, not SNX
[7/10/2016 1:03:03 PM] Caustic: Im not here about scotland
[7/10/2016 1:03:07 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: greetings Immortan_Junka
[7/10/2016 1:03:09 PM] Caustic: Im here to question SNX's right to exist
[7/10/2016 1:03:14 PM] Immortan_Junka: Lol
[7/10/2016 1:03:14 PM] L_H: hello mr junka
[7/10/2016 1:03:15 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: need introductions to anyone?
[7/10/2016 1:03:17 PM] Caustic: and whether or not to drop the ultimate sanction
[7/10/2016 1:03:17 PM] Caustic: as is my right
[7/10/2016 1:03:36 PM] Morphine: Then you should ask SNX about their right to exist
[7/10/2016 1:03:42 PM] Caustic: Im about to
[7/10/2016 1:03:43 PM] Immortan_Junka: Rights only exist so long as they are defended against tyranny
[7/10/2016 1:03:44 PM] L_H: junka, was NG really out to exterminate SNX last year?
[7/10/2016 1:03:49 PM] Caustic: junka
[7/10/2016 1:03:50 PM] L_H: during shark week?
[7/10/2016 1:03:56 PM] Caustic: is NG really going to exterminate your &#33;@#&#036;%* alliance this year
[7/10/2016 1:04:00 PM] Caustic: during shark week
[7/10/2016 1:04:09 PM] Immortan_Junka: Who said anything about NG
[7/10/2016 1:04:13 PM] Caustic: I did
[7/10/2016 1:04:21 PM] Caustic: because Im about to ram a size 11 boot up your ass
[7/10/2016 1:04:22 PM] Caustic:
[7/10/2016 1:04:26 PM] Caustic: shark week is coming
[7/10/2016 1:04:37 PM] Immortan_Junka: i thought you tried that already
[7/10/2016 1:04:44 PM] Caustic: ITS NOT SHARK WEEK YET IS IT
[7/10/2016 1:04:50 PM] Immortan_Junka: Lol
[7/10/2016 1:04:59 PM] Immortan_Junka: Actually technically it is
[7/10/2016 1:05:04 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: before we switch topics
[7/10/2016 1:05:14 PM] Immortan_Junka: Since the raids started like july 8
[7/10/2016 1:05:15 PM] Caustic: ITS NOT CN SHARK WEEK YET IS IT
[7/10/2016 1:05:17 PM] Immortan_Junka: Last year
[7/10/2016 1:05:24 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Immortan_Junka, Do you know if scotland will be showing up to represent themselves
[7/10/2016 1:05:26 PM] L_H: is it a leap year?
[7/10/2016 1:05:41 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: yes
[7/10/2016 1:05:43 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: yes it is
[7/10/2016 1:06:09 PM] Immortan_Junka: Idk hartfw
[7/10/2016 1:06:16 PM] Immortan_Junka: I just logged in
[7/10/2016 1:06:31 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: okay
[7/10/2016 1:06:45 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: We have Minc here who want to address stuff directly to them
[7/10/2016 1:06:51 PM] Immortan_Junka: I can talk to st mungo later
[7/10/2016 1:06:59 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: And I guess separately maybe there are other issues to resolve
[7/10/2016 1:07:11 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: I think there is some concerns over how information gets filtered
[7/10/2016 1:07:21 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: And whether there is an unbiased reporting of it
[7/10/2016 1:07:31 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Would you feel comfortable sharing those logs later?
[7/10/2016 1:07:33 PM] Caustic: Im all for bias
[7/10/2016 1:07:45 PM] Caustic: (SNX dun gonna get rolled)
[7/10/2016 1:08:10 PM] Immortan_Junka: Nothing new thete
[7/10/2016 1:08:12 PM] Immortan_Junka: There
[7/10/2016 1:08:59 PM] L_H: ^
[7/10/2016 1:12:12 PM] L_H: we would like to negoiate with scotland as we have grave concerns and would like to unify our brown sphere mates, including snx
[7/10/2016 1:12:55 PM] L_H: Brown needs to stand together and it's not possible with SNXs rogue shenanigans and Scotlands puppetry
[7/10/2016 1:13:26 PM] Morphine: How about you all just sign a NAP and be done with it?
[7/10/2016 1:14:09 PM] L_H: NAPs does very little and they don't last forever. all an NAP does is give scotland the breathing room to unite a micro bloc that threatens our freedom
[7/10/2016 1:14:15 PM] Caustic: how about we disband SNX
[7/10/2016 1:14:19 PM] Caustic: and forget the NAP
[7/10/2016 1:14:38 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Scotland signing a NAP while not even here wouldn;t feel like a strong commitment to actually addressing Minc's concerns
[7/10/2016 1:14:44 PM] L_H: i have always tried to be fair and diplomatic before using military force
[7/10/2016 1:14:44 PM] Morphine: A micro bloc doeant threaten your freedom
[7/10/2016 1:15:04 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: ^
[7/10/2016 1:15:05 PM] Caustic: I have never tried to be fair and diplomatic prior to using force
[7/10/2016 1:15:08 PM] Caustic: take that as you will
[7/10/2016 1:15:21 PM] L_H: of course not, but one filled with nations with past transgressions towards our sovereignty does
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[7/10/2016 1:15:46 PM] Morphine: You dont even know who would be in such a bloc
[7/10/2016 1:15:55 PM] L_H: SNXs recent $*))# you to Atlas is very concerning for brown sphere stability
[7/10/2016 1:16:16 PM] L_H: including VGs own &#33;@#&#036;%* sessions towards alexio and threatening their lower tier
[7/10/2016 1:16:19 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: L_H you are in no position to speak for Atlas
[7/10/2016 1:16:25 PM] L_H: when Atlas was simply gearing up to support Oculus
[7/10/2016 1:16:35 PM] L_H: i speak to alexio on skype regularly
[7/10/2016 1:16:57 PM] Morphine: As for our "&#33;@#&#036;%* sessions" towards alexio
[7/10/2016 1:17:10 PM] Morphine: He tried to take advantage of us because we were new
[7/10/2016 1:17:36 PM] Morphine: We held our own, and we both resolved it - diplomatically
[7/10/2016 1:18:00 PM] Morphine: Infact we resolved 3 issues in the same time period - diplomatically
[7/10/2016 1:18:09 PM] Morphine: With atlas ^
[7/10/2016 1:18:28 PM] L_H: our own desire to form our own block for protection was quickly criticized by your side and yet scotland just got out voted for their own micro bloc entry that snx had full knowledge about
[7/10/2016 1:18:33 PM] L_H: hypocritical, you think?
[7/10/2016 1:18:53 PM] Caustic: morphine, who are you and why should I refrain from reducing your &#33;@#&#036;%* nation to ash forevermore?
[7/10/2016 1:19:56 PM] L_H: and let's not forget Scotlands close association with the St Mungo tech ring
[7/10/2016 1:19:57 PM] Morphine: And what would be the need for that?
[7/10/2016 1:20:08 PM] Caustic: my personal amusement
[7/10/2016 1:20:15 PM] Caustic: and to satiate my vindictive nature
[7/10/2016 1:20:27 PM] L_H: did junka walk out of the peace talks?
[7/10/2016 1:20:32 PM] Morphine: Yeah but Im no fun
[7/10/2016 1:20:33 PM] Caustic: looks like it
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[7/10/2016 1:20:45 PM] Caustic: see
[7/10/2016 1:20:47 PM] Caustic: thats the joy of it
[7/10/2016 1:20:56 PM] Morphine: Youd probably be better off going to pick on someone who will beg for their nation
[7/10/2016 1:20:58 PM] Caustic: you don't have to be fun for me to make your suffering my own entertainment
[7/10/2016 1:22:04 PM] Immortan_Junka: A true son of slaanesh
[7/10/2016 1:22:12 PM] L_H: he's back
[7/10/2016 1:22:17 PM] L_H: i thought you walked out
[7/10/2016 1:22:27 PM] Immortan_Junka: Nah im on my phone
[7/10/2016 1:23:36 PM] L_H: terms for scotland: "an apology of past antagonism, a promise to reassess their current tech dealings, and a 6 month period of withstanding from any sort of bloc connection"
[7/10/2016 1:23:46 PM] Immortan_Junka: Lol
[7/10/2016 1:24:11 PM] Immortan_Junka: I hope you like fighting turtles and nuke turrets
[7/10/2016 1:24:36 PM] Caustic: I don't mind that one bit
[7/10/2016 1:24:50 PM] L_H: we've got plenty of nuke turrents, with money
[7/10/2016 1:25:18 PM] L_H: i think those terms are more-than-fair based on their association with st mungo and our intelligence department
[7/10/2016 1:25:21 PM] Immortan_Junka: Why did you peace with us in April then
[7/10/2016 1:25:31 PM] Immortan_Junka: If you are so great and mightu
[7/10/2016 1:25:39 PM] L_H: Eatemup's request
[7/10/2016 1:25:48 PM] L_H: he's a great leader
[7/10/2016 1:25:56 PM] Immortan_Junka: He isn't your ally
[7/10/2016 1:26:24 PM] Caustic: school of margravve
[7/10/2016 1:26:24 PM] L_H: we have always respected polaris
[7/10/2016 1:26:26 PM] Caustic: paperless is real
[7/10/2016 1:26:38 PM] L_H: RIP Margrave, worthless $*)#
[7/10/2016 1:26:42 PM] * Immortan_Junka shrugs
[7/10/2016 1:26:58 PM] Immortan_Junka: Is there anything valid to discuss here or an I wasting my time
[7/10/2016 1:27:08 PM] Caustic: you just got served terms
[7/10/2016 1:27:13 PM] Caustic: take them or leave them
[7/10/2016 1:27:16 PM] Immortan_Junka: K
[7/10/2016 1:27:45 PM] Galerion: what don't you like about their current tech dealing?
[7/10/2016 1:27:50 PM] Immortan_Junka: Guess we will see how many months this will last eh
[7/10/2016 1:28:02 PM] Immortan_Junka: My record in war is clear
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[7/10/2016 1:28:34 PM] L_H: Galerion, look up St Mungo
[7/10/2016 1:29:03 PM] Caustic: your record consists of getting eaten alive by sharks
[7/10/2016 1:29:08 PM] Caustic: then trying to claim victory
[7/10/2016 1:29:18 PM] Morphine: He deals with KoRT
[7/10/2016 1:29:38 PM] Immortan_Junka: Ok caustic
[7/10/2016 1:29:42 PM] Immortan_Junka: If you say so
[7/10/2016 1:29:53 PM] L_H: its true
[7/10/2016 1:29:57 PM] Immortan_Junka: I remember &#33;@#&#036;@#&#036; up lots of tech production when I was in polar
[7/10/2016 1:30:09 PM] Immortan_Junka: And receiving the Order Hero medal
[7/10/2016 1:30:09 PM] L_H: don't go there Junka
[7/10/2016 1:30:16 PM] Galerion: so you don't want them to supply tech to KoRT?
[7/10/2016 1:30:40 PM] L_H: st mungo was a tech ring of multis deleted a while back
[7/10/2016 1:30:58 PM] L_H: asking for more 'transparency' in their dealings is a fair request
[7/10/2016 1:31:04 PM] Immortan_Junka: If you think SNX hasn't learned from each of our wars and improved our milcom after each then I guess we'll see
[7/10/2016 1:31:13 PM] L_H: you havent
[7/10/2016 1:31:23 PM] Immortan_Junka: ok
[7/10/2016 1:31:49 PM] Immortan_Junka: L_H I didnt know you are a cn mod
[7/10/2016 1:31:59 PM] Immortan_Junka: news to me
[7/10/2016 1:32:22 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: please don;t speculate on mod identies
[7/10/2016 1:32:25 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: its against the ToS
[7/10/2016 1:32:31 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: and I'm not comfortable with that
[7/10/2016 1:32:46 PM] L_H: <Immortan_Junka>: L_H I didnt know you are a cn mod
[7/10/2016 1:32:53 PM] L_H: whos interest are you defending?
[7/10/2016 1:33:00 PM] Immortan_Junka: It's against TOS on the cn forums
[7/10/2016 1:33:23 PM] Immortan_Junka: In any case LH has no proof of multis and if he does he should report it to mods
[7/10/2016 1:33:28 PM] Immortan_Junka: not speculate here
[7/10/2016 1:34:09 PM] L_H: asking for a transparent tech deal is not a mind blown request. for being an 'new alliance' it should be pretty cut and paste anyway
[7/10/2016 1:34:23 PM] Immortan_Junka: It's none of your business
[7/10/2016 1:34:31 PM] L_H: i'll decide that
[7/10/2016 1:34:36 PM] Immortan_Junka: SCOTLAND has members who participate in Interstellar
[7/10/2016 1:34:43 PM] Immortan_Junka: And they are our treaty partner
[7/10/2016 1:34:47 PM] L_H: new nations recieve money, they send tech. plain and simple
[7/10/2016 1:34:55 PM] Immortan_Junka: No &#33;@#&#036; sherlock
[7/10/2016 1:35:02 PM] L_H: that's all i'm asking
[7/10/2016 1:35:22 PM] Immortan_Junka: What the &#036;%&amp;@ is a transparent tech deal
[7/10/2016 1:35:41 PM] Caustic: the kind where my goons raid your tech
[7/10/2016 1:35:46 PM] Immortan_Junka: Ok
[7/10/2016 1:35:47 PM] Caustic: soon.jpg
[7/10/2016 1:35:49 PM] L_H: they've got rings there, something new nations don't do
[7/10/2016 1:35:56 PM] Immortan_Junka: EMPturtle.jpg
[7/10/2016 1:36:31 PM] L_H: 2 of the suspected rings have already jumped ship btw
[7/10/2016 1:37:10 PM] Caustic: hmmm
[7/10/2016 1:37:12 PM] Caustic: 15 EMP's
[7/10/2016 1:37:14 PM] Caustic: vs 31
[7/10/2016 1:37:18 PM] Caustic: I don't like your odds amigo
[7/10/2016 1:37:22 PM] * Immortan_Junka shrugs
[7/10/2016 1:37:45 PM] Immortan_Junka: If you want to come out of your way to attack us, we will defend ourselves as best we can
[7/10/2016 1:37:50 PM] Immortan_Junka: We don't have to win
[7/10/2016 1:38:01 PM] Immortan_Junka: We just need to fight till people stop trying to exterminate us
[7/10/2016 1:38:45 PM] Pansy: I think that'd probably be quicker if you stopped looking at it like people exterminating you
[7/10/2016 1:39:01 PM] Immortan_Junka: That's how I always look at it
[7/10/2016 1:39:09 PM] Immortan_Junka: Because SNX doesn't cause trouble to anyone
[7/10/2016 1:39:14 PM] Schroenkeiger: No
[7/10/2016 1:39:16 PM] Schroenkeiger: Only you do
[7/10/2016 1:39:24 PM] Schroenkeiger: SNX overall seems mostly fine.
[7/10/2016 1:39:28 PM] Immortan_Junka: it's not like we are bones causing sanction wars
[7/10/2016 1:39:35 PM] Immortan_Junka: yeah
[7/10/2016 1:39:51 PM] Immortan_Junka: except when I got booted from SNX in 2014 SNX was attacked anyway
[7/10/2016 1:39:58 PM] Immortan_Junka: so logic doesn't stand
[7/10/2016 1:40:16 PM] Pansy: I am merely making a point, you'd be less "Sport" if you didn't react like you do with so much pompf and bluster
[7/10/2016 1:40:34 PM] Immortan_Junka: people are in this channel threatening snx and our ally
[7/10/2016 1:40:40 PM] Immortan_Junka: Demanding terms
[7/10/2016 1:40:48 PM] Pansy: even less sport if you solf tech at better rates, but I digress
[7/10/2016 1:40:52 PM] Pansy: sold*
[7/10/2016 1:40:55 PM] Immortan_Junka: I am not a good sport
[7/10/2016 1:40:59 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: People have come together to reach a diplomatic solution
[7/10/2016 1:41:01 PM] Immortan_Junka: I fight dirty
[7/10/2016 1:41:06 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Otherwise they would have attacked
[7/10/2016 1:41:12 PM] L_H: Scotland has pledged to do anything to resolve the issue outside of disbanding, i think those are reasonable terms
[7/10/2016 1:41:19 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: I wish this spirit of diplomacy was mirrored
[7/10/2016 1:41:19 PM] Pansy: Junka, you are a sport &#036;%&amp;@ to NG
[7/10/2016 1:41:30 PM] L_H: lol
[7/10/2016 1:41:39 PM] Pansy: if you want to participate or not
[7/10/2016 1:41:57 PM] Morphine: LH what were the terns again?
[7/10/2016 1:41:57 PM] L_H: Pansy>: Junka, you are a sport &#036;%&amp;@ to NG   that would make an epic sig
[7/10/2016 1:42:22 PM] L_H: terms for scotland: "an apology of past antagonism, a promise to reassess their current tech dealings, and a 6 month period of withstanding from any sort of bloc connection"
[7/10/2016 1:42:44 PM] Immortan_Junka: Sounds like BS to me
[7/10/2016 1:42:53 PM] L_H: that's because you only care about yourself
[7/10/2016 1:43:05 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: those are terms that Cowboys can support
[7/10/2016 1:43:10 PM] L_H: let's remember this is for Scotland, no you
[7/10/2016 1:43:11 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: they ask for no personal gain
[7/10/2016 1:43:12 PM] Caustic: these are terms that NG can support
[7/10/2016 1:43:15 PM] Morphine: Explain to me the reassess tech deals. What do you mean by that? They reassess them? What if they find nothing
[7/10/2016 1:43:19 PM] Immortan_Junka: No, I don't believe in appeasement
[7/10/2016 1:43:31 PM] Immortan_Junka: How many of our allies have you harassed now
[7/10/2016 1:43:37 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: well, if you wish to encourage your ally to start an aggressive war, you are free to
[7/10/2016 1:43:46 PM] Pansy: These are terms that Sengoku can support Cowboys and NG supporting MInc
[7/10/2016 1:43:57 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: I feel like Minc is coming forward with a non war terms
[7/10/2016 1:44:05 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: that are about the issues
[7/10/2016 1:44:08 PM] L_H: i am asking that they reasses their tech deals. that's all. being new nations, i would hate to see them being taken advantage of considering the amount of tech they send out compared to what they recieve. M Inc wants to see new nations grow
[7/10/2016 1:44:24 PM] L_H: and prosper
[7/10/2016 1:44:31 PM] Immortan_Junka: What are you talking about
[7/10/2016 1:44:34 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: On this note, I must leave
[7/10/2016 1:44:46 PM] Immortan_Junka: SNX pays 18/300
[7/10/2016 1:44:56 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: Which is market rate
[7/10/2016 1:44:57 PM] Immortan_Junka: Thats higher than almost any AA
[7/10/2016 1:45:03 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Pansy, can you make sure L_H relays this directly to Scotland incase there is some confusion?
[7/10/2016 1:45:17 PM] Pansy: Yes Hoss
[7/10/2016 1:45:21 PM] L_H: i will in-game message them right now
[7/10/2016 1:45:29 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Also, L_H and/or tywin, can you send me logs ingame of anything that happens going forward?
[7/10/2016 1:45:39 PM] L_H: of course
[7/10/2016 1:45:48 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: Caustic, I appreaciate your ability to step back from yoru own goals and support Minc.
[7/10/2016 1:45:53 PM] Immortan_Junka: I'm not keeping logs but RightHonorable probably can
[7/10/2016 1:45:58 PM] L_H: i'm asking very little and junka is making all kinds of dramatic assumptions
[7/10/2016 1:46:00 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: I have logs
[7/10/2016 1:46:01 PM] @hartfw[Cowboys]: And Morphine, I feel like we should do more of these.
[7/10/2016 1:46:03 PM] Immortan_Junka: No
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[7/10/2016 1:46:14 PM] Immortan_Junka: You are demanding terms from my ally for &#33;@#&#036;%^&amp;* reasons
[7/10/2016 1:46:17 PM] L_H: Morphine, you're cool in our book
[7/10/2016 1:46:32 PM] Caustic: I always see the big picture hart
[7/10/2016 1:46:37 PM] Caustic: always
[7/10/2016 1:46:39 PM] Caustic:
[7/10/2016 1:46:49 PM] Morphine: Yeah as much as i like you guys, I hope there isnt any more of these lol
[7/10/2016 1:47:02 PM] Morphine: Hopefully we can all just get along for more than 3 months
[7/10/2016 1:47:03 PM] L_H: Caustic, thank you btw for attempting diplomacy in these troubled times. it shows your character imo
[7/10/2016 1:47:20 PM] Immortan_Junka: Yeah until LH starts more &#33;@#&#036; in two weeks
[7/10/2016 1:47:26 PM] L_H: why just 3 more months? is that when hershey is out of jail?
[7/10/2016 1:47:27 PM] Caustic: shark week*
[7/10/2016 1:47:34 PM] Caustic: 3 months?
[7/10/2016 1:47:35 PM] Caustic: thats it?
[7/10/2016 1:47:39 PM] Caustic: we shoulda made it longer
[7/10/2016 1:47:40 PM] Caustic: :/
[7/10/2016 1:47:47 PM] Immortan_Junka: 3 months is short
[7/10/2016 1:47:51 PM] Immortan_Junka: to me
[7/10/2016 1:48:25 PM] L_H: it also confirms that we are indeed under a threat. thank you for this talk, as it has shed light on what we already knew
[7/10/2016 1:48:49 PM] Immortan_Junka: What threat
[7/10/2016 1:48:59 PM] Immortan_Junka: you are the one constantly threatening my allies
[7/10/2016 1:49:06 PM] Morphine: I said more than 3 months lol not 3 more months
[7/10/2016 1:49:25 PM] Immortan_Junka: and some reason you get support from the same people you attacked in the past
[7/10/2016 1:49:32 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: Nowhere have threats been made to you LH, stop living in delusions
[7/10/2016 1:49:33 PM] Caustic: I cant wait to bring an era of enlightenment to the imperium
[7/10/2016 1:50:27 PM] L_H: morphine, do you think those are reasonable terms for scotland?
[7/10/2016 1:51:15 PM] Morphine: No comment
[7/10/2016 1:51:18 PM] L_H: let's not back channel junka atm. let's be honest here. very very reasonable
[7/10/2016 1:52:05 PM] L_H: this isn't the first time i've been in talks with junka... you could say something is white and he'd argue that it's black
[7/10/2016 1:52:15 PM] L_H: his only comments are defensive imperium BS
[7/10/2016 1:52:19 PM] Morphine: Well is it white or is it black?
[7/10/2016 1:52:27 PM] L_H: white
[7/10/2016 1:52:31 PM] Immortan_Junka: L_H you are the opposite of what we represent
[7/10/2016 1:52:44 PM] Immortan_Junka: Thats why we know you will always start &#33;@#&#036; with us
[7/10/2016 1:52:46 PM] L_H: meanwhile he will back channel a bunch of BS and then pull the victim card in the spotlight
[7/10/2016 1:53:10 PM] L_H: mmortan_Junka>: Thats why we know you will always start &#33;@#&#036; with us
[7/10/2016 1:53:12 PM] L_H: fale
[7/10/2016 1:53:14 PM] L_H: false*
[7/10/2016 1:53:38 PM] L_H: the difference is that you back channel garbage and we'd prefer to solve our issues with honesty, transparency, and integrity
[7/10/2016 1:53:41 PM] L_H: we don't have to back channel
[7/10/2016 1:53:57 PM] Morphine: No offence
[7/10/2016 1:54:06 PM] Immortan_Junka: You are an alliance of tier 4 nations that sit down below 20k NS
[7/10/2016 1:54:09 PM] Morphine: Bht its alot easier to do that with 10 members than 50
[7/10/2016 1:54:13 PM] Immortan_Junka: that is your only strength
[7/10/2016 1:54:38 PM] L_H: Lord Hershey has a 6 billion dollar warchest and sits and 4k NS, what's your point?
[7/10/2016 1:54:54 PM] Immortan_Junka: You have no capacity for productive enterprise
[7/10/2016 1:55:03 PM] Immortan_Junka: You only seek to destroy the work of others
[7/10/2016 1:55:19 PM] Immortan_Junka: You are the opposite of what we stand for
[7/10/2016 1:55:23 PM] L_H: this is coming from the guy who disbanded an alliance you disagreed with?
[7/10/2016 1:55:30 PM] Immortan_Junka: That's a lie
[7/10/2016 1:55:31 PM] L_H: and forced them to join at gun point?
[7/10/2016 1:55:38 PM] Immortan_Junka: Another lie
[7/10/2016 1:55:44 PM] L_H: it's &#33;@#&#036;@#&#036; transparent
[7/10/2016 1:55:51 PM] Immortan_Junka: So we can add "liar" to your description
[7/10/2016 1:55:51 PM] L_H: do you know what is a lie?
[7/10/2016 1:55:57 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: Even if that was true you would still be hypocritical
[7/10/2016 1:56:17 PM] L_H: mistakening NGs shark week for anything more than what it actually was, a &#036;%&amp;@ sport
[7/10/2016 1:56:18 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: And to answer that question, anything that you say LH
[7/10/2016 1:58:27 PM] Immortan_Junka: Nordreich was openly trying to exterminate us last year
[7/10/2016 1:58:49 PM] Immortan_Junka: Our members were being mass PMd that SNX would not get peace
[7/10/2016 1:59:03 PM] L_H: i love Nordreich
[7/10/2016 1:59:21 PM] L_H: Morphine>: No public apology, terms arent posted, you just drop your claim against their disbandement. They will reassess their tech deals but if nothing comes of it then thats that. They will remain out of a bloc for 6 months but you have to sign a NAP for 6 months with them <L_H>: i will bend to the 6 months NAP
[7/10/2016 1:59:35 PM] L_H: L_H>: a public apology of antagonism i will not <L_H>: 50/50 trade there <L_H>: let's meet in the middle
[7/10/2016 2:00:16 PM] L_H: more than fair imo
[7/10/2016 2:00:29 PM] L_H: and we even negotiated middle ground
[7/10/2016 2:00:32 PM] Immortan_Junka: SCOTLAND antagonized no one
[7/10/2016 2:00:44 PM] L_H: you're not helping Junka
[7/10/2016 2:00:46 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: They have no active wars
[7/10/2016 2:00:50 PM] L_H: more than fair
[7/10/2016 2:00:51 PM] Immortan_Junka: Unless peacefully tech dealing is "Antagonism"
[7/10/2016 2:01:14 PM] Immortan_Junka: Looks like I am antagonizing you then LH, come at me bro
[7/10/2016 2:01:19 PM] L_H: let's keep the non productivenism to ourselves
[7/10/2016 2:01:44 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: So you will go away then?
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[7/10/2016 2:01:59 PM] L_H: i respect Morphines ablility to at least bargain- I repsect that VG is attempting diplomacy rather than just false accusations
[7/10/2016 2:02:15 PM] Morphine: Let me be perfectly clear
[7/10/2016 2:02:27 PM] L_H: @ RH, of course. we want a peaceful world as much as junka claims he does
[7/10/2016 2:02:59 PM] Morphine: I still think the terms are egregious.
[7/10/2016 2:04:27 PM] Immortan_Junka: Why don't we publicly post LHs demands
[7/10/2016 2:04:32 PM] L_H: sure
[7/10/2016 2:04:35 PM] L_H: more than reasonabe
[7/10/2016 2:04:54 PM] Immortan_Junka: Yeah, except it's not a valid casus belli
[7/10/2016 2:05:14 PM] Immortan_Junka: Because nothing in the terms addresses anything regarding Scotland transgressing against Minc
[7/10/2016 2:05:16 PM] L_H: throwing a tantrum and being productive are two different aspects
[7/10/2016 2:05:22 PM] Immortan_Junka: It is the terms imposed by an invader
[7/10/2016 2:05:47 PM] L_H: you are calling us an invader?
[7/10/2016 2:05:53 PM] Immortan_Junka: I believe invaders should be impaled on spikes
[7/10/2016 2:05:53 PM] L_H: who was the last alliance we disbanded?
[7/10/2016 2:06:17 PM] L_H: funny, because SNX disbanded an alliance and we never have
[7/10/2016 2:06:18 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: LH you want a stranglehold on Scotland's ability to manage their affairs
[7/10/2016 2:06:23 PM] Immortan_Junka: Thats a lie
[7/10/2016 2:06:30 PM] Immortan_Junka: Exactly
[7/10/2016 2:06:39 PM] L_H: did the alliance you hit disband or not?
[7/10/2016 2:06:40 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: Effectively disbanding them
[7/10/2016 2:06:42 PM] L_H: they did.
[7/10/2016 2:06:45 PM] Immortan_Junka: It's no diferent than methrage demanding SNX accept him as leader in february
[7/10/2016 2:06:54 PM] Immortan_Junka: It is the same transgression
[7/10/2016 2:07:16 PM] Immortan_Junka: It is violation of sovereignty
[7/10/2016 2:07:33 PM] L_H: wow
[7/10/2016 2:07:54 PM] L_H: you are saying that the fair terms that we presented are the same as methrage demanding to be SNXs leader?
[7/10/2016 2:07:58 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: By imposing terms like those you effectively disband them as a sovereign alliance because they are no longer in control of their own affairs
[7/10/2016 2:08:21 PM] L_H: they are in a 6 month terrorist probe window
[7/10/2016 2:08:40 PM] Immortan_Junka: Ok Im done
[7/10/2016 2:08:50 PM] L_H: i don't see how we are botching their ability to freely grow as new, young nations by asking for them to do standard tech deals and not grouping into a micro bloc is a bad thing
[7/10/2016 2:08:54 PM] Immortan_Junka: Im going to advise SCOTLAND to reject terms and prepare for war
[7/10/2016 2:08:54 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: What makes them terrorists,nothing at
[7/10/2016 2:08:59 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: all
[7/10/2016 2:09:41 PM] L_H: we tried
[7/10/2016 2:09:43 PM] Immortan_Junka: If anyone sees fit to back LHs behavior I will make an alliance announcement stating what happened here
[7/10/2016 2:09:44 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: They have committed no transgressions against MInc or your allies
[7/10/2016 2:09:59 PM] L_H: i guess standard tech deals, a simple apology and reforming from a terrorist bloc is too much to ask these days
[7/10/2016 2:10:24 PM] Immortan_Junka: We do not back down to thugs and bullies
[7/10/2016 2:10:40 PM] L_H: says the guy who has disbanded more soverign alliances than we have
[7/10/2016 2:10:44 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: The only one who should be apologizing for anything is you for making threats and wasting our time
[7/10/2016 2:11:40 PM] Immortan_Junka: If SNX is attacked for taking a principled position here any aggressors can expect us to resist months of warfare and we will post lots of essays describing why we are right
[7/10/2016 2:11:58 PM] L_H: simple terms these days. see you guys on the battlefield. we will not allow &#33;@#&#036; heads to simply band together and jepordize our freedom
[7/10/2016 2:12:18 PM] L_H: Caustic Junka was referring to you
[7/10/2016 2:13:06 PM] Schroenkeiger: And I'm sure those essays will convince everyone.
[7/10/2016 2:13:24 PM] L_H: good god
[7/10/2016 2:13:26 PM] Immortan_Junka: I don't have to convince people with no sense of morality
[7/10/2016 2:13:45 PM] Schroenkeiger: Have you considered that if absolutely no one agrees with your sense of morals, that you might not be the morally right one?
[7/10/2016 2:13:49 PM] Immortan_Junka: The only solution to thugs and barbarians is to slay them
[7/10/2016 2:14:07 PM] Immortan_Junka: Or die trying
[7/10/2016 2:14:51 PM] Immortan_Junka: Ive survived EZI, countless wars of aggression, my members can do the same
[7/10/2016 2:15:00 PM] L_H: no one care
[7/10/2016 2:15:01 PM] L_H: s
[7/10/2016 2:16:27 PM] Pansy: [20:11] <Immortan_Junka> If SNX is attacked for taking a principled position here any aggressors can expect us to resist months of warfare and we will post lots of essays describing why we are right - Are you trying to give us more reasons to hit you?
[7/10/2016 2:17:17 PM] Immortan_Junka: We have the right to defend our sovereignty and SCOTLAND has the right to do the same
[7/10/2016 2:17:26 PM] Schroenkeiger: Honestly, if they attack us or we attack them, I'll be remembering SNX's unwillingness to negotiate or compromise on this fairly mundane conflict.
[7/10/2016 2:17:53 PM] Immortan_Junka: Numbers do not matter here, what matters is principle and determination
[7/10/2016 2:17:55 PM] Morphine: Why dont we all take a lunch break and meet back here at 6pm EST? Eh? Lol
[7/10/2016 2:17:58 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: The terms proposed are draconian in the extreme
[7/10/2016 2:18:01 PM] Immortan_Junka: Just like the Spartans at Thermopolye
[7/10/2016 2:18:12 PM] Pansy: draconian?
[7/10/2016 2:18:14 PM] Schroenkeiger: RH, how new to CN are you?
[7/10/2016 2:18:17 PM] Pansy: hahhahahhaha
[7/10/2016 2:18:42 PM] Pansy: are you caliph in disguise ?
[7/10/2016 2:18:46 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: Not very, I left for a while and now I'm back in the mess
[7/10/2016 2:18:56 PM] L_H: asking scotland to apologize for past antagonism ie forming a micro bloc after snx was livid that we were pursing one, asking them to do tech deals that benefit their growth and asking them to not enter a micro bloc when they already have protection from snx is very very reasonable
[7/10/2016 2:19:07 PM] Schroenkeiger: Victors used to have to PROTECT their defeated as to ensure months of reps would actually get paid
[7/10/2016 2:22:07 PM] Immortan_Junka: SNX could care less if Minc made a micro bloc
[7/10/2016 2:22:18 PM] Immortan_Junka: we don't stick our nose in other affairs like you do
[7/10/2016 2:22:42 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: I would like to propose a recess to 4PM CDT
[7/10/2016 2:23:41 PM] Schroenkeiger: Honestly you could probs leave and come back at that time and you wouldn't have missed a thing.
[7/10/2016 2:24:01 PM] Morphine: ^
[7/10/2016 2:24:17 PM] L_H: i'll even throw in a bonus, because Morphine is actually attempting to reason
[7/10/2016 2:24:52 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: I just thinking if everyone takes a step back and considers the consequences perhaps things might change
[7/10/2016 2:24:58 PM] L_H: m inc will protect scotland for the 6 month duration of them not entering a micro block- in case there was any worries that we are violating their ability to grow in peace
[7/10/2016 2:25:18 PM] Morphine: I dont think thats a bonus
[7/10/2016 2:25:46 PM] L_H: fair enough, an NAP will do
[7/10/2016 2:25:48 PM] Immortan_Junka: Yeah that would have more credibility if you didn't bandwaggon wars every week
[7/10/2016 2:26:25 PM] L_H: you mean support our friends in cowboys?
[7/10/2016 2:28:40 PM] L_H: <Morphine>: Okay <Morphine>: I got it <L_H>: ? <Morphine>: Scotland apologizes for antagonizing and you apologize for not talking to SCOTLAND first and instead threatening them with war <L_H>: sure <L_H>: i think that could be worded correctly if you don't mind me writing up a statement
[7/10/2016 2:28:52 PM] L_H: <Morphine>: Post that in the other chat
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[7/10/2016 2:30:13 PM] Morphine: Nobody?
[7/10/2016 2:30:49 PM] RightHonorable[SNX]: I think that is reasonable, provided that there is no other terms
[7/10/2016 2:30:52 PM] L_H: Junka is tantruming. like i side, if you say something is white- he'll argue it's black. it's why SNX got into with Atlas on brown. because they are a bunch of pre-madonnas
[7/10/2016 2:31:27 PM] Immortan_Junka: No I am tired of people trying to transgress on our sovereignty and that of our allies
[7/10/2016 2:32:18 PM] Immortan_Junka: The proper recourse is to follow the example of Vlad the Impaler
[7/10/2016 2:32:42 PM] RightHonorable[SNX] is now known as RightHonorable
[7/10/2016 2:32:47 PM] L_H: ah, you mean the guy who killed millions of his people because he was butthurt about rightfully being vanished?
[7/10/2016 2:33:36 PM] L_H: you mean the guy who's life was spared only for him to come back and cause human suffering?
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[7/10/2016 2:34:22 PM] L_H: someone stoker utilized as a blood thirsty tyrant?
[7/10/2016 2:34:27 PM] L_H: that vlad?
[7/10/2016 2:34:45 PM] Immortan_Junka: That Vlad who defeated invasions of Europe by the Turks
[7/10/2016 2:34:57 PM] L_H: and instilled fear
[7/10/2016 2:35:23 PM] L_H: that sounds like SNX, people who sqeem during shark week only to persecute the innocent
[7/10/2016 2:35:47 PM] Immortan_Junka: Unfortunately LH people like you have no morality, you understand only fear
[7/10/2016 2:36:17 PM] Immortan_Junka: You try to leverage it against peaceful SCOTLAND
[7/10/2016 2:36:29 PM] L_H: we have plenty of morailty, it doesn't fall into your agenda. and 'fear'... well- apparently we do not fear making it a planet bob topic to disband an alliance
[7/10/2016 2:36:47 PM] L_H: for our own protection
[7/10/2016 2:36:55 PM] Immortan_Junka: Ok
[7/10/2016 2:37:08 PM] L_H: who is joel james?
[7/10/2016 2:37:12 PM] Immortan_Junka: So a bunch of heavy wonder nations are afraid of SCOTLAND
[7/10/2016 2:37:13 PM] JoelJames: ME
[7/10/2016 2:37:14 PM] JoelJames: Me*
[7/10/2016 2:37:18 PM] L_H: where from?
[7/10/2016 2:37:29 PM] JoelJames: the United States?
[7/10/2016 2:37:33 PM] Immortan_Junka: He's in SNX
[7/10/2016 2:37:38 PM] JoelJames: Oh, like that...
[7/10/2016 2:37:41 PM] L_H: who's mib?
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[7/10/2016 2:37:55 PM] Immortan_Junka: Joeljames can you explain to this idiot how we didn't "disband GG"
[7/10/2016 2:37:58 PM] L_H: mib_jhp6oh identify yourself
[7/10/2016 2:38:01 PM] Morphine: Mib might be scotland
[7/10/2016 2:38:13 PM] Morphine: If he doesnt know how to use it, he wouldnt have typed a name
[7/10/2016 2:38:52 PM] hartfw: * [mib_jhp6oh] (Mibbit@coldfront-2D686596.cable.virginm.net): http://www.mibbit.com
[7/10/2016 2:38:54 PM] hartfw: * [mib_jhp6oh] #scotlandtalks #cnknights
[7/10/2016 2:39:00 PM] hartfw: seems like the same mib as before
[7/10/2016 2:39:04 PM] L_H: same guy as before
[7/10/2016 2:39:16 PM] hartfw: I'm unaware of anyone else that knows how great cnknights are
[7/10/2016 2:39:21 PM] JoelJames: Ok, I will probably get some flak for this
[7/10/2016 2:39:45 PM] JoelJames: But L_H Galactic Guard wasn't disbanded, would you like to hear the reasoning before you yell at me?
[7/10/2016 2:40:44 PM] JoelJames: ...
[7/10/2016 2:40:44 PM] hartfw: btw, hi JoelJames
[7/10/2016 2:40:50 PM] JoelJames: Hey hart
[7/10/2016 2:40:56 PM] L_H: Galactive Guard did disband
[7/10/2016 2:40:57 PM] hartfw is now known as hartfw[Cowboys]
[7/10/2016 2:41:25 PM] JoelJames: Ok, that is a reasonable conclusion given the evidence you probably have
[7/10/2016 2:41:58 PM] JoelJames: Galactic Guard did exist as an AA before SNX attacked, and disappeared afterwards
[7/10/2016 2:42:17 PM] JoelJames: But other than being an AA, it didn't really exist as an alliance
[7/10/2016 2:42:43 PM] L_H: what on earth does disbandment mean these days?
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[7/10/2016 2:42:57 PM] Pansy: They certainly did
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[7/10/2016 2:43:02 PM] Pansy: I protected GG
[7/10/2016 2:43:03 PM] L_H: when an alliance goes poof after a war, it usually means they disbanded, and for what reason?
[7/10/2016 2:43:11 PM] JoelJames: It went through multiple name changes while I was there, membership activity was almost nonexistent, and there was really only two active government officials before we were rolled
[7/10/2016 2:43:13 PM] Pansy: I loved and cared for them
[7/10/2016 2:43:20 PM] L_H: were they aggressive towards the imperium? no, junka was mad at them from when they were all in SNX
[7/10/2016 2:43:25 PM] Pansy: they ignored my love
[7/10/2016 2:43:33 PM] JoelJames: I will not disagree with that
[7/10/2016 2:43:39 PM] Immortan_Junka: Ok why not let JoelJames talk since he was actually in GG
[7/10/2016 2:43:41 PM] L_H: junka surely will
[7/10/2016 2:43:46 PM] Immortan_Junka: rather than shouting him down
[7/10/2016 2:43:48 PM] hartfw[Cowboys]: Tevron is here to represent Atlas at my request
[7/10/2016 2:43:53 PM] L_H: we didn't
[7/10/2016 2:43:57 PM] L_H: helo tevron
[7/10/2016 2:43:57 PM] hartfw[Cowboys]: L_H, can you catch him up
[7/10/2016 2:44:15 PM] JoelJames: But the fact is, that being attacked did more to increase activity among the member nations than just wasting away ever did
[7/10/2016 2:44:33 PM] L_H: long story short: morphine and right honorable mentioned great terms and agreed. junka is just being a dip &#33;@#&#036;
[7/10/2016 2:44:53 PM] Immortan_Junka: GGs leader Masterchief777 booted them all from AA iirc
[7/10/2016 2:44:55 PM] L_H: <JoelJames>: But the fact is, that being attacked did more to increase activity among the member nations than just wasting away ever did
[7/10/2016 2:45:02 PM] L_H: sort of like M Inc at scotland
[7/10/2016 2:45:09 PM] L_H: how is it right for SNX, but not right for M Inc?
[7/10/2016 2:45:20 PM] Tevron: I'm slightly busy so i'll be ducking in/out
[7/10/2016 2:45:23 PM] L_H: is it because we didn't need DK to do our warring for us?
[7/10/2016 2:45:25 PM] Immortan_Junka: We had a casus belli against GG
[7/10/2016 2:45:36 PM] Immortan_Junka: You don't have one aganst SCOTLAND
[7/10/2016 2:45:44 PM] L_H: what was your CB against GG?
[7/10/2016 2:45:49 PM] Pansy: he does have one
[7/10/2016 2:45:50 PM] L_H: did they aggressivley threaten you?
[7/10/2016 2:45:55 PM] Pansy: you just don't like it
[7/10/2016 2:46:29 PM] JoelJames: Scotland's activity looks to be far greater than GG's was at the time of the roll
[7/10/2016 2:46:59 PM] L_H: <L_H>: did they aggressivley threaten you?
[7/10/2016 2:47:04 PM] JoelJames: Even with MC booting us all and then fleeing, there was no centralized effort or coordination between the member nations. No aid drops. No reinforcements. Nothing
[7/10/2016 2:47:28 PM] JoelJames: If an alliance can't even provide even lines of communication between members, in what capacity are they an alliance?
[7/10/2016 2:47:42 PM] hartfw[Cowboys]: GG were awful.
[7/10/2016 2:47:44 PM] L_H: did GG threaten SNX? as I know MC was the most anti war person there is on bob
[7/10/2016 2:47:52 PM] hartfw[Cowboys]: The main guy from them I would like to assert a cb on
[7/10/2016 2:47:55 PM] L_H: so they werent a threat
[7/10/2016 2:48:00 PM] hartfw[Cowboys]: Pansy,
[7/10/2016 2:48:04 PM] JoelJames: And I'm pretty sure GG changed its name to AFRO before being rolled...
[7/10/2016 2:48:06 PM] hartfw[Cowboys]: who was the main guy from them?
[7/10/2016 2:48:12 PM] Immortan_Junka: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/127852-november-third-offensive/
[7/10/2016 2:48:19 PM] Pansy: masterchief, but you hated irule
[7/10/2016 2:48:20 PM] Immortan_Junka: Here's casus belli
[7/10/2016 2:48:31 PM] L_H: GG was not a threat to the imperium
[7/10/2016 2:48:34 PM] JoelJames: main guy in GG? I would say rule, but he went inactive a few days ago
[7/10/2016 2:48:34 PM] L_H: none
[7/10/2016 2:48:51 PM] L_H: there would have never been war on the imperium by GG, quick dodging the &#33;@#&#036;@#&#036; question you lieing bastard
[7/10/2016 2:49:04 PM] Immortan_Junka: Notice SNX writes an ACTUAL CASUS BELLI when attacking and doesn't just randomly demand someone disband in 48 hours
[7/10/2016 2:49:05 PM] hartfw[Cowboys]:  irule
[7/10/2016 2:49:11 PM] hartfw[Cowboys]: Immortan_Junka,
[7/10/2016 2:49:13 PM] L_H: we've got 3 of them junka
[7/10/2016 2:49:20 PM] hartfw[Cowboys]: I looked into that cb and it didn;t hold for what its worth
[7/10/2016 2:49:26 PM] hartfw[Cowboys]: That was an actual message
[7/10/2016 2:49:45 PM] hartfw[Cowboys]: although we are moving pretty fast off to new topics
[7/10/2016 2:50:11 PM] JoelJames: ^^
[7/10/2016 2:50:27 PM] Morphine: Back to the most recent terms. Everybody post what specifically you dont like in the terms
[7/10/2016 2:50:37 PM] Immortan_Junka: At least we post a well written casus belli rather than dance videos
[7/10/2016 2:50:43 PM] hartfw[Cowboys]: If our friends are happy, Cowboys is happy.
[7/10/2016 2:50:56 PM] JoelJames: First of all, can we have a run down on what the terms actually are? They seemed to have changed a bit since I got on
[7/10/2016 2:51:07 PM] hartfw[Cowboys]: (and i'm back afk)
[7/10/2016 2:51:17 PM] Pansy: the terms lack homage to the King of England
[7/10/2016 2:51:46 PM] Immortan_Junka: GG only disbanded because Masterchief777 booted everyone off the AA
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[7/10/2016 2:51:58 PM] Immortan_Junka: it wasn't even a real disbandment
[7/10/2016 2:52:03 PM] Pansy: #morebraveheartjokes
[7/10/2016 2:52:20 PM] Immortan_Junka: We certainly never demanded that GG disband
[7/10/2016 2:52:34 PM] JoelJames: So, the terms as they are right now?
[7/10/2016 2:53:07 PM] Morphine:  Scotland apologize for antagonizing Minc, Minc apologizes for threatening scotland with war and not trying to solve this diplomatically, SCOTLAND will review their tech deals, but if nothing comes of it then thats it, and SCOTLAND wont be in a bloc for 6 months but Minc and Scotland will sign a 6 month NAP during that time
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[7/10/2016 2:53:59 PM] JoelJames: That still leaves SCOTLAND open to attack by third parties
[7/10/2016 2:54:08 PM] Morphine: Such as?
[7/10/2016 2:54:17 PM] Morphine: The NAP covers allies of Minc
[7/10/2016 2:54:22 PM] Morphine: Formal or informal
[7/10/2016 2:54:43 PM] Immortan_Junka: Well thats alot better than what was previously demanded
[7/10/2016 2:54:46 PM] JoelJames: I would never say that L_H nor his allies would flout a NAP, but exactly how many members are in SCOTLAND?
[7/10/2016 2:54:48 PM] Morphine: It covers SNX as well since they are treatied to scotland
[7/10/2016 2:55:28 PM] Morphine: 11 members in SCOTLAND minus the 2 that cowardly ran
[7/10/2016 2:55:30 PM] JoelJames: Sounds reasonable to me
[7/10/2016 2:56:13 PM] JoelJames: Your thoughts Morphine?
[7/10/2016 2:56:28 PM] L_H: Scotland is more of a threat to M Inc with their potential micro block inclusion than GG was ever to SNX
[7/10/2016 2:56:40 PM] Immortan_Junka: Lol
[7/10/2016 2:56:41 PM] Morphine: I think its better than a pissing match that nobody wins at
[7/10/2016 2:57:30 PM] Pansy: [20:54] <Morphine> The NAP covers allies of Minc - Sorry what?
[7/10/2016 2:58:09 PM] Tevron: like a NAP bloc?
[7/10/2016 2:58:35 PM] Morphine: The NAP wording would prevent scotland from attacking for example cowboys
[7/10/2016 2:58:40 PM] Pansy: No offence, I am not being forced into a NAP with anyone
[7/10/2016 2:58:51 PM] L_H: <JoelJames>: Scotland's activity looks to be far greater than GG's was at the time of the roll
[7/10/2016 2:58:55 PM] Tevron: Is it a one way NAP?
[7/10/2016 2:58:59 PM] L_H: so it's okay to hit an inactive alliance?
[7/10/2016 2:59:04 PM] JoelJames: Lastly, did Minc's allies agree to abide by the NAP? It would be bad if not, it would set a dangerous precedent of alliances making agreements for alliances
[7/10/2016 2:59:09 PM] Morphine: Its not a forced nap. It protects you from SCOTLAND
[7/10/2016 2:59:18 PM] JoelJames: Ok, looks like Pansy answered that
[7/10/2016 2:59:37 PM] L_H: m inc would never ask our cowboys friends to partake in anything we drove ourselves
[7/10/2016 2:59:59 PM] L_H: i highly doubt they even knew Scotland existed tbh
[7/10/2016 3:00:25 PM] Morphine: LH, would the NAP be worded like the one between Minc and VG?
[7/10/2016 3:00:35 PM] L_H: <L_H>: <JoelJames>: Scotland's activity looks to be far greater than GG's was at the time of the roll
[7/10/2016 3:00:47 PM] L_H: <L_H>: so it's okay to hit an inactive alliance?
[7/10/2016 3:00:56 PM] Pansy: Speaking with my Sengoku hat on, we won't be signing anything due to our informal ties to Minc, we'll take our chances that Scotland won't attack us
[7/10/2016 3:01:02 PM] L_H: ^please answer the above
[7/10/2016 3:01:12 PM] Immortan_Junka: Um
[7/10/2016 3:01:18 PM] JoelJames: Apologies, L_H
[7/10/2016 3:01:22 PM] Immortan_Junka: What is your point L_H
[7/10/2016 3:01:33 PM] Immortan_Junka: We had a valid casus belli
[7/10/2016 3:01:57 PM] L_H: my point is that you claim Scotland did not 'threaten us'... yet GG threatened SNX and their aggressive war?
[7/10/2016 3:02:03 PM] JoelJames: But I will ask that I answer the question elsewhere, as I do not wish to derail the current topic
[7/10/2016 3:02:04 PM] Pansy: Speaking with my Cowboys hat on, I will pass the NAP suggestion on to hartfw
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[7/10/2016 3:02:22 PM] L_H: <Immortan_Junka>: We had a valid casus belli
[7/10/2016 3:02:24 PM] L_H: so do we
[7/10/2016 3:02:26 PM] Pansy: Speaking with my Reavers hat on  ... Food?
[7/10/2016 3:02:27 PM] L_H: three-fold
[7/10/2016 3:02:35 PM] L_H: i'll take a slice of pizza
[7/10/2016 3:02:35 PM] * JoelJames likes Pansy
[7/10/2016 3:02:39 PM] Immortan_Junka: No you don't
[7/10/2016 3:02:48 PM] L_H: JoelJames likes Pansy
[7/10/2016 3:02:50 PM] L_H: 4 CBs now
[7/10/2016 3:03:18 PM] Pansy: StMungo, do you have any plans to attack Sengoku?
[7/10/2016 3:03:29 PM] JoelJames: (finally, progress)
[7/10/2016 3:03:36 PM] L_H: hello st mungo
[7/10/2016 3:03:39 PM] Morphine: Hoozah
[7/10/2016 3:05:01 PM] StMungo: Pansy. I don't have plans to attack anyone.
[7/10/2016 3:05:16 PM] L_H: StMungo, identify yourself in game
[7/10/2016 3:05:24 PM] L_H: send me a message
[7/10/2016 3:05:35 PM] Immortan_Junka: Ok so what is the mutual agreement again
[7/10/2016 3:05:38 PM] L_H: http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=549745
[7/10/2016 3:05:49 PM] L_H: first, let's make sure it's really him
[7/10/2016 3:06:30 PM] Immortan_Junka: Oh wow, not 500 NS anymore
[7/10/2016 3:06:34 PM] Immortan_Junka: Congrats
[7/10/2016 3:07:02 PM] JoelJames: Junka, not now
[7/10/2016 3:07:06 PM] Morphine: -.-'
[7/10/2016 3:07:18 PM] JoelJames: L_H's request is reasonable here
[7/10/2016 3:07:23 PM] L_H: we've got plenty to ruffle your feathers junka
[7/10/2016 3:07:40 PM] L_H: StMungo
[7/10/2016 3:07:43 PM] Morphine: You guys can piss on each other after we make a deal
[7/10/2016 3:07:44 PM] L_H: identify yourself ingame
[7/10/2016 3:07:52 PM] StMungo: You are so paranoid. You need to change what you are smoking?
[7/10/2016 3:08:10 PM] L_H: your host name is similar to anothers who did not respond in these talks
[7/10/2016 3:08:25 PM] L_H: given the Sparta/VE talks- it's good to error on the side of caution
[7/10/2016 3:08:36 PM] L_H: we wouldn't want made up screen names now would we?
[7/10/2016 3:08:53 PM] L_H: i think all parties can agree on this
[7/10/2016 3:09:00 PM] Immortan_Junka: That's fine
[7/10/2016 3:09:10 PM] L_H: confirmed
[7/10/2016 3:09:14 PM] RightHonorable: Agreed
[7/10/2016 3:09:18 PM] L_H: not a huge request, given past circumstance
[7/10/2016 3:09:26 PM] StMungo: Happy are we?
[7/10/2016 3:09:34 PM] L_H: i've been better
[7/10/2016 3:09:38 PM] L_H: your terms
[7/10/2016 3:09:51 PM] Immortan_Junka: Should not be phrased as terms
[7/10/2016 3:09:54 PM] L_H:  Scotland apologize for antagonizing Minc, Minc apologizes for threatening scotland with war and not trying to solve this diplomatically, SCOTLAND will review their tech deals, but if nothing comes of it then thats it, and SCOTLAND wont be in a bloc for 6 months but Minc and Scotland will sign a 6 month NAP during that time
[7/10/2016 3:09:56 PM] Immortan_Junka: Mutusl agreement
[7/10/2016 3:09:59 PM] Pansy: [21:04] <StMungo> Pansy. I don't have plans to attack anyone.
[7/10/2016 3:09:59 PM] Pansy: [21:05] <L_H> StMungo, identify yourself in game
[7/10/2016 3:10:00 PM] Immortan_Junka: Mutual
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[7/10/2016 3:10:32 PM] Pansy: thank you StMungo, Morphine was trying to suggest we sign an NAP to protect me from you
[7/10/2016 3:10:51 PM] RightHonorable: Those terms seem reasonable to me, at least given the unfortunate circumstances
[7/10/2016 3:11:00 PM] L_H: Immortan_Junka>: Should not be phrased as terms
[7/10/2016 3:11:02 PM] Morphine: Yeah sorry worded that wrong. You should know that by now Pansy
[7/10/2016 3:11:14 PM] L_H: 'proposal for peace'
[7/10/2016 3:11:19 PM] Morphine: Its not terms its a gentlemans agreement
[7/10/2016 3:11:30 PM] L_H: better junka?
[7/10/2016 3:11:41 PM] Immortan_Junka: Thats fine with me
[7/10/2016 3:12:03 PM] L_H: i'm working it right now for all of us to proof and agree
[7/10/2016 3:12:14 PM] L_H: and if StMungo agrees to post it, case closed
[7/10/2016 3:13:26 PM] Morphine: And the winner is.....?
[7/10/2016 3:13:47 PM] Immortan_Junka: StMungo did you send PM yet
[7/10/2016 3:14:11 PM] Immortan_Junka: Need to make sure you're not ATG or some troublemaker
[7/10/2016 3:14:26 PM] L_H: I would like to apologize for Scotland antagonzing Monsters Inc. In doing so, Monsters Inc also aplogizes for threatening us with war. In the furture we will review our current tech deals and attempt to show more transparency in our dealings. We also withstand from joining a micro bloc for 6 months and in doing so, M Inc has agreed with a 6 month NAP. Signed,
[7/10/2016 3:14:31 PM] L_H:  St Mungo
[7/10/2016 3:14:43 PM] L_H: StMungo verified
[7/10/2016 3:14:44 PM] L_H: he's good
[7/10/2016 3:14:49 PM] Immortan_Junka: ok
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[7/10/2016 3:15:21 PM] hartfw: I logged out after <L_H> we've got plenty to ruffle your feathers junka
[7/10/2016 3:15:35 PM] hartfw: Glad to see Scotland is here
[7/10/2016 3:15:49 PM] StMungo: So what is all this really about. I've never spoken to L_H or antagonized Minc.
[7/10/2016 3:16:11 PM] L_H: do you agree to the peace proposal StMungo?
[7/10/2016 3:16:11 PM] RightHonorable: To edit one line * Scotland will refrain from joining a micro bloc for 6 months and so MInc will agree to a NAP lasting 6 months
[7/10/2016 3:16:21 PM] hartfw: <Pansy> Speaking with my Cowboys hat on, I will pass the NAP suggestion on to hartfw  | Cowboys won;t sign anything like that, but we are happy if our allies are happy
[7/10/2016 3:16:34 PM] hartfw: Our interests here are solely those of our friends
[7/10/2016 3:16:40 PM] hartfw: excuse the word ally there
[7/10/2016 3:16:53 PM] Immortan_Junka: Hold on L_H
[7/10/2016 3:17:09 PM] Immortan_Junka: it's not a black and white "do you agree or not"
[7/10/2016 3:17:14 PM] hartfw: back to afk and timing out.
[7/10/2016 3:17:21 PM] L_H: hawtw pm me
[7/10/2016 3:17:27 PM] L_H: and i will catch you up
[7/10/2016 3:17:59 PM] Immortan_Junka: StMungo says he never antagonized Minc
[7/10/2016 3:18:25 PM] L_H: i would say that too if i was in his shoes
[7/10/2016 3:18:25 PM] L_H: he's guilty
[7/10/2016 3:18:40 PM] Immortan_Junka: If that's the case it might be better to drop both apology clauses
[7/10/2016 3:18:45 PM] Immortan_Junka: Do you have proof
[7/10/2016 3:19:04 PM] JoelJames: Can we just leave it as is
[7/10/2016 3:19:26 PM] StMungo: I Guilty of saying what?
[7/10/2016 3:19:35 PM] L_H: we are not dropping anything junka
[7/10/2016 3:19:48 PM] Immortan_Junka: Ok
[7/10/2016 3:19:49 PM] L_H: quit trying to parade st mungo as some righteous saint
[7/10/2016 3:19:49 PM] JoelJames: Just leave it as is
[7/10/2016 3:19:53 PM] Immortan_Junka: So where is proof
[7/10/2016 3:20:06 PM] L_H: <JoelJames>: Just leave it as is
[7/10/2016 3:20:09 PM] L_H: ^agreed.
[7/10/2016 3:20:16 PM] JoelJames: StMungo and L_H both agree to this, that should be enough for you Junka
[7/10/2016 3:20:32 PM] L_H: Junka always likes stirring the pot
[7/10/2016 3:20:44 PM] L_H: post it StMungo so that we can all move on from this crisis
[7/10/2016 3:20:57 PM] Morphine: Circle jerk*
[7/10/2016 3:21:01 PM] Morphine: Not crisis
[7/10/2016 3:21:05 PM] RightHonorable: I have revised the terms for clarity
[7/10/2016 3:21:06 PM] RightHonorable:  Scotlamd would like to apologize for Scotland antagonzing Monsters Inc. In doing so, Monsters Inc also aplogizes for threatening us with war. In the furture we will review our current tech dealing positiom and attempt to show more transparency in our dealings. We also refrain from joining a micro bloc for 6 months and in doing so, M Inc has agreed to a 6 month NAP. Signed
[7/10/2016 3:21:14 PM] RightHonorable: *Scotland
[7/10/2016 3:21:25 PM] Morphine: Future*
[7/10/2016 3:21:26 PM] StMungo: Tell me what this is really about. So I may not transgress against you again L_H
[7/10/2016 3:21:30 PM] Morphine: Position*
[7/10/2016 3:21:49 PM] L_H: if you follow the terms, we will be on good terms
[7/10/2016 3:21:56 PM] RightHonorable: Sorry, my touch keypad acts up sometimes
[7/10/2016 3:21:58 PM] L_H: proposal*
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[7/10/2016 3:23:09 PM] L_H: and we can all shake hands, m inc will be happy, scotland will be saved, morphine is happy and junka is happy and cowboys are happy
[7/10/2016 3:23:11 PM] RightHonorable: Scotland would like to apologize for Scotland antagonzing Monsters Inc. Monsters Inc also aplogizes for threatening Scotland with war. In the future we will review our current tech dealing position and will attempt to show more transparency in our dealings. We also refrain from joining a micro bloc for 6 months and in doing so, M Inc has agreed to a 6 month NAP. Signed
[7/10/2016 3:23:12 PM] L_H: everybody wins
[7/10/2016 3:23:18 PM] RightHonorable: Better?
[7/10/2016 3:23:29 PM] StMungo: What is it. are you really afraid of a Alliance of noobies? That I don't believe?
[7/10/2016 3:23:36 PM] L_H: sounds good.
[7/10/2016 3:23:43 PM] Morphine: Mungo, no offense here but
[7/10/2016 3:23:57 PM] Morphine: We just spent the better half of 4 hours negiotating this deal
[7/10/2016 3:24:04 PM] RightHonorable: ^
[7/10/2016 3:24:05 PM] Morphine: Save the questions for after please
[7/10/2016 3:24:09 PM] Morphine: Before i blow my brains out
[7/10/2016 3:24:10 PM] L_H: Mungo, shut up and post it while other people have battled diplomatically for you
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[7/10/2016 3:25:02 PM] StMungo: Ok Verified for the sake of peace. Scotland would like to apologize for Scotland antagonzing Monsters Inc. Monsters Inc also aplogizes for threatening Scotland with war. In the future we will review our current tech dealing position and will attempt to show more transparency in our dealings. We also refrain from joining a micro bloc for 6 months and in doing
[7/10/2016 3:25:30 PM] RightHonorable: Just post the forum link once you get it posted
[7/10/2016 3:25:57 PM] StMungo: Now will you tell me what this is realy about, please?
[7/10/2016 3:26:11 PM] Morphine: Napoleon complex
[7/10/2016 3:26:16 PM] Immortan_Junka: Lol
[7/10/2016 3:26:21 PM] Immortan_Junka: Basically
[7/10/2016 3:27:23 PM] StMungo: I'm not as well educted as you all are. wtf is Napoleon complex?
[7/10/2016 3:27:32 PM] Immortan_Junka: I will be sure to ask for evidence of supposed antagonism in the thread
[7/10/2016 3:27:49 PM] RightHonorable: Just post the terms and we can answer questions later
[7/10/2016 3:27:57 PM] Schroenkeiger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_complex
[7/10/2016 3:28:49 PM] RightHonorable: This lasted the better part of 4 hours and these are the terms we came to agreement on
[7/10/2016 3:29:02 PM] Immortan_Junka: Well its a mutual agreement
[7/10/2016 3:29:15 PM] L_H: lots of junka kicking and screaming, but we made head-way
[7/10/2016 3:29:21 PM] Immortan_Junka: Terms imply conflict has taken place
[7/10/2016 3:29:38 PM] L_H: caustic, morphine, and RighHonorable are the real heros in the diplmacy
[7/10/2016 3:29:46 PM] Immortan_Junka: Lol
[7/10/2016 3:29:52 PM] StMungo: I'll post them.  Isint this just some long term gruded betewwn you two. With Scotland in the middle.
[7/10/2016 3:30:07 PM] RightHonorable: The articles in a contract are called terms, and no conflict takes place there
[7/10/2016 3:30:09 PM] L_H: along with supported Pansy initiatives
[7/10/2016 3:30:13 PM] Morphine: No this is some grudge with SNX in the middle
[7/10/2016 3:30:27 PM] L_H: M Inc has no grudge with SNX
[7/10/2016 3:30:35 PM] L_H: just another propoganda make up by junka
[7/10/2016 3:30:46 PM] Immortan_Junka: Uh where did I say you did
[7/10/2016 3:30:50 PM] Immortan_Junka: Maybe less strawmen
[7/10/2016 3:32:38 PM] L_H: has this been posted yet?
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[7/10/2016 3:32:56 PM] L_H: i would like to see a new thread to support our diplomacy efforts
[7/10/2016 3:33:00 PM] L_H: brown can unify
[7/10/2016 3:33:26 PM] Morphine: Scotland is on green no?
[7/10/2016 3:33:29 PM] RightHonorable: Well, let's have peace first.
[7/10/2016 3:33:44 PM] L_H: it's always a challenge when snx is at the same table as m inc and atlas
[7/10/2016 3:33:47 PM] L_H: but diplomacy prevailed
[7/10/2016 3:34:00 PM] StMungo: Ok, I'll leave you all now to post agreement.  By all means enjoy your grudge holding. But Please leave us out of it. Thanks.
[7/10/2016 3:34:06 PM] RightHonorable: Although I would be in favor of normalized relations with all on brown
[7/10/2016 3:34:08 PM] Morphine: No no
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[7/10/2016 3:34:14 PM] Morphine: Mungo you post it
[7/10/2016 3:34:42 PM] L_H: Mungo, play nice now- lots of people spent countless hours to save your ass
[7/10/2016 3:34:47 PM] Morphine: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/forum/70-alliance-announcements-ic/
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[7/10/2016 3:35:40 PM] RightHonorable: Well actually 4 hours, which is far too many
[7/10/2016 3:36:06 PM] Morphine: 4 hours since i got here
[7/10/2016 3:36:12 PM] Morphine: You guys were already here
[7/10/2016 3:36:15 PM] Morphine: So figure like 6 hours
[7/10/2016 3:36:41 PM] Immortan_Junka: Yeah LH basically wasted my whole morning
[7/10/2016 3:36:45 PM] RightHonorable: But we got something done. No one really likes it but this what we can come up with
[7/10/2016 3:36:55 PM] L_H: m inc doesn't consider diplomacy a waste
[7/10/2016 3:37:53 PM] RightHonorable: Now if you and Junka would quit the posturing for the moral high ground that would be great
[7/10/2016 3:37:57 PM] Morphine: Hey look
[7/10/2016 3:39:10 PM] RightHonorable: Also given your threats to Scotland, that statement is a lie.
[7/10/2016 3:39:26 PM] L_H: i'm glad to see the matter resolved
[7/10/2016 3:39:32 PM] RightHonorable: As am I
[7/10/2016 3:40:28 PM] RightHonorable: StMungo, could you post the agreement in a new thread
[7/10/2016 3:40:31 PM] L_H: i would like to thank cowboys in volunteering these peace talks, AG for driving diplomacy, Tevron for his role in keeping brown stable, junka for showing up, right honorable for driving diplomacy, joel james for his war dissertion stories
[7/10/2016 3:40:41 PM] StMungo: Can we all become friends now?
[7/10/2016 3:40:50 PM] L_H: don't push it
[7/10/2016 3:40:52 PM] Pansy: oh god no
[7/10/2016 3:40:59 PM] Pansy: I hate every one of you
[7/10/2016 3:41:11 PM] Morphine: Not me
[7/10/2016 3:41:18 PM] Pansy: including myself for being here
[7/10/2016 3:41:22 PM] L_H: and caustic for really wedging peace into the enviroment
[7/10/2016 3:41:33 PM] RightHonorable: Of course not, but we are off the brink, so let's celebrate
[7/10/2016 3:41:45 PM] Schroenkeiger: Personally, I amassed great amusement idling in this channel and reading snips during loading screens
[7/10/2016 3:41:52 PM] Schroenkeiger: So, thank you all.
[7/10/2016 3:42:07 PM] RightHonorable: Well you have logs to cherish forever
[7/10/2016 3:42:09 PM] Morphine: Your welcome
[7/10/2016 3:42:23 PM] RightHonorable: You are welcome
[7/10/2016 3:42:26 PM] JoelJames: desertion*
[7/10/2016 3:42:27 PM] JoelJames: There you are L_H, I assume that's what you meant
[7/10/2016 3:42:33 PM] JoelJames: and no problem. Anytime
[7/10/2016 3:42:39 PM] StMungo: Alright I get it now, you all love to hate each other.
[7/10/2016 3:42:48 PM] Schroenkeiger: Mungo, you catch on fast.
[7/10/2016 3:42:59 PM] Immortan_Junka: Dissertion lol
[7/10/2016 3:43:00 PM] RightHonorable: He will go far
[7/10/2016 3:43:00 PM] Schroenkeiger: You should hang out with us on irc more often.
[7/10/2016 3:43:15 PM] RightHonorable: Don't worry, we don't bite
[7/10/2016 3:43:52 PM] JoelJames: *snort*
[7/10/2016 3:44:09 PM] StMungo: I need to figue out how to get Irc on my forums.
[7/10/2016 3:44:20 PM] RightHonorable: Mainly because we can't over the internet.
[7/10/2016 3:44:56 PM] Schroenkeiger: I think most people put some kind of mibbit link on their forums and connect through that, if they have such a link at all.
[7/10/2016 3:44:57 PM] Morphine: http://widget00.mibbit.com/?settings=dcce4a8f726e0b7bfb8bf5698c09250f&server=irc.coldfront.net&channel=%23%3F%3F%3F spinmeat
[7/10/2016 3:45:15 PM] Morphine: Ta da ^^
[7/10/2016 3:45:23 PM] Immortan_Junka: Morphine pm me that pls
[7/10/2016 3:45:41 PM] Schroenkeiger: lol
[7/10/2016 3:45:48 PM] StMungo: Any one want me to post a joke before I go
[7/10/2016 3:46:01 PM] Morphine: No
[7/10/2016 3:46:07 PM] Schroenkeiger: Want you to? No. Should you do what you want to do without asking anyway? Yes.
[7/10/2016 3:46:44 PM] Immortan_Junka: Make it a joke about LHs grammar
[7/10/2016 3:46:55 PM] StMungo: To: St Mungo    From: Jonesing    Date: 7/10/2016 3:30:39 PM  Subject: War Declared! Message: War has been declared on you by Jonesing for the following reason: A general dispute You may access your War & Battles screen to view and manage this war.
[7/10/2016 3:47:07 PM] Immortan_Junka: Loooooooooool
[7/10/2016 3:47:10 PM] L_H: he did, and i told him to peace, now that peace as been agreed
[7/10/2016 3:47:13 PM] Immortan_Junka: Nice one L_H
[7/10/2016 3:47:21 PM] Immortan_Junka: Violating the NAP already
[7/10/2016 3:47:22 PM] L_H: it was posted when you threatened war
[7/10/2016 3:47:24 PM] Immortan_Junka: that was fast
[7/10/2016 3:47:36 PM] L_H: he'll peace, it was just announced on our aa forums
[7/10/2016 3:47:41 PM] Schroenkeiger: Mungo, that is why you should post jokes no matter what. Because that is HILARIOUS
[7/10/2016 3:47:59 PM] Immortan_Junka: typical MINC
[7/10/2016 3:49:10 PM] Pansy: It is iin my interest to see jonesing not harmed for his little indescretion
[7/10/2016 3:49:22 PM] Morphine: Now thats alot of damage for 5 attacks lmao
[7/10/2016 3:49:23 PM] Immortan_Junka: Did he launch attacks
[7/10/2016 3:49:25 PM] RightHonorable: If no more wars are declared we can chalk it up to a failure of communication
[7/10/2016 3:49:31 PM] Immortan_Junka: Oh so he did launch attacks
[7/10/2016 3:49:36 PM] Immortan_Junka: Interesting
[7/10/2016 3:49:37 PM] Pansy: As my BAPS brother
[7/10/2016 3:49:38 PM] L_H: StMungo, jonesing will be sending you peace
[7/10/2016 3:49:59 PM] Pansy: I will be here for him
[7/10/2016 3:50:06 PM] Immortan_Junka: After attacking already
[7/10/2016 3:50:12 PM] Immortan_Junka: Very interer
[7/10/2016 3:50:31 PM] Immortan_Junka: I remember killing 500 of his spies
[7/10/2016 3:51:15 PM] L_H: i remember him toppling you
[7/10/2016 3:51:26 PM] Morphine: Okay next up
[7/10/2016 3:51:33 PM] Morphine: MINC and SNX sign a nap for 5 yearz
[7/10/2016 3:51:36 PM] Morphine: Years*
[7/10/2016 3:51:38 PM] Morphine: Lets go
[7/10/2016 3:51:56 PM] JoelJames: *snort*
[7/10/2016 3:52:08 PM] L_H: ha!
[7/10/2016 3:52:32 PM] L_H: m inc had approached SNX about a peaceful existance before
[7/10/2016 3:52:46 PM] Morphine: Try again now.
[7/10/2016 3:52:51 PM] Morphine: We are on a roll today
[7/10/2016 3:53:03 PM] L_H: let's not push the envelop
[7/10/2016 3:53:04 PM] L_H: e
[7/10/2016 3:53:17 PM] Schroenkeiger: The last one took you all, what? Four hours?
[7/10/2016 3:53:17 PM] Morphine: 6 month NAP lol
[7/10/2016 3:53:22 PM] Immortan_Junka: Not much of a roll when the NAP is violated inside of like five minutes
[7/10/2016 3:53:30 PM] Morphine: Well hey
[7/10/2016 3:54:01 PM] Morphine: The agreement technically wasnt posted by the time jonesing attacked so we cant fault anyone.  Simply overlook
[7/10/2016 3:54:08 PM] Schroenkeiger: ^
[7/10/2016 3:54:19 PM] Schroenkeiger: That's what I was going to bring up
[7/10/2016 3:54:30 PM] Morphine: Still not cool but an honest mistake
[7/10/2016 3:54:33 PM] Schroenkeiger: But I wanted to check the alliance announcements forum to verify the time first
[7/10/2016 3:54:51 PM] Schroenkeiger: Which I can't seem to find.
[7/10/2016 3:55:02 PM] Morphine: Its in the thread
[7/10/2016 3:55:09 PM] Schroenkeiger: Oh!
[7/10/2016 3:55:09 PM] Morphine: Not it's own thread
[7/10/2016 3:55:11 PM] Schroenkeiger: I see it now
[7/10/2016 3:55:13 PM] Morphine: Just a post
[7/10/2016 3:55:43 PM] StMungo: L_H and Immortan_Junka you two love to hate each other. I'm going to leave you two love bids for now. Bye.
[7/10/2016 3:55:54 PM] Morphine: Bye
[7/10/2016 3:55:57 PM] Morphine: Thanks for coming
[7/10/2016 3:56:07 PM] L_H: good bye all
[7/10/2016 3:56:16 PM] L_H: i'm glad junka finally bent his will for once
[7/10/2016 3:56:24 PM] L_H: it shows we may just well not blow each other up
[7/10/2016 3:56:30 PM] Morphine: MAD
[7/10/2016 3:56:40 PM] Morphine: Mutually assured destruction. Works both ways
[7/10/2016 3:57:01 PM] Immortan_Junka: I never "bent my will"
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[7/10/2016 3:57:14 PM] Immortan_Junka: I lead SNX not scotland
[7/10/2016 3:57:32 PM] Morphine: Who is AG?
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[7/10/2016 3:58:25 PM] RightHonorable: Ultimately it was StMungo's and LH's decision to agree to the points of the agreement, not ours
[7/10/2016 3:58:25 PM] L_H: my work is done here, M Inc is a safer place. thank you everybody
[7/10/2016 3:58:45 PM] Morphine: Adios amigos
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We mods have dropped the ball recently.  We're back in action now. 

 

I'm just using this as an example.  Other people need to pay attention as well.

 

Reminder: No discussion of moderation issues.  Everyone, remember to edit your log posts (if necessary) for anything that would violate OWF forum rules before posting them on the OWF.  Thank you.

[An Important Seaworthy Announcement]

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[A Non Grata RP Production]

12 hours ago, Partisan said:

WANA holds no govt in The Syndicate, nor does he affect Syndicate foreign policy in the other world. I fail to see the irony?

I'm beginning to wonder exactly which world I'm a moderator.  Que Sera Sera has never heard of this "Syndicate."  This is NOT something that should happen.  I'll be handing out verbal warnings in this world.  I'm not going to track down all of you in some other one to make sure you are behaving there. There are simple reasons why some actions are not okay.   Moderators do not need extra work and we would appreciate not having to go elsewhere simply to do our job in an effective fashion.

 

8 hours ago, Duke Nukem said:

I have been hostile towards Pacifica in P&W, sure.

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6 hours ago, Lord bagel said:

So we kick your butts in another game, and so you attack most of us in another game? That is pretty interesting. 

This is OOC in a IC forum area. 

 

3 hours ago, Immortan Junka said:

This is why I stick to CN

I'm sure it would be a much more enjoyable experience for the many others like you who do not share in these delusions regarding "another world"  to have the war everyone is fighting and the comments in the thread actually pertain to the world they have chosen to fight in.  Just as we mods do not want to track down what is going on elsewhere, other community members would probably prefer this as well.

 

3 hours ago, Monster said:

 I'm referring to your issues with me which crossed both sides and attempts to go after me based on stuff from here.

 

I wasn't really involved anywhere but Bob and WANA attempted to go after me over Bob issues in backchannels when I became active elsewhere.  As soon as he became gov in MI6, it would add to any other issues.

 

There is only Bob. 

 

Please keep to the rules.  This is the second time I have to say something in public.  Thank you.

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1 hour ago, Azaghul said:

When ever you thought this world couldn't get any dumber, people start bringing conflicts from other worlds into this one.

 

It's sad to see people/alliances I have some respect for engaging in this garbage.

 

52 minutes ago, Chimaera said:

 

I'm sure their allies are going to have other problems soon in the other world.

 

37 minutes ago, AlmightyGrub said:

 

Oh dear Chim...are you going ''there''.

 

36 minutes ago, Chimaera said:

 

You already did, dear Grub.  You start burning down walls between worlds, you never know where the fire's going to spread.

I understand that emotions are high at the moment.  However, please remember there are certain lines that admin. does not like being crossed.  I'm being kind in this reminder. That will change if necessary in the future.  Thank you. 

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16 hours ago, Blackatron said:

This turned out to be rather amusing.

Grave digging.  Locked.

[Rest in peace Keelah]

I agree, his passing is a tremendous loss.   Keelah was a good person to work with and made being a mod a good experience for me.  Condolences to his family and others who knew him well. 

[Recognition Of State Of War By Swash Plates And Tail Rotors]

Reminder:  The OP did NOT start another topic about the Immortan Junka and Sephiroth war.  To try to change the topic is derailing and people will be warned.

 

Please review the rules regarding this and other issues and then follow the rules.

http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/forum-19/announcement-22-cyber-nations-forum-rules/

 

 

You would think with SNX "defeated" Methrage could move on to help Minc with Oculus. But easier to spam threads about "SNX hegemony" I guess.

Vote Grub-Methrage 2016.

 

I just quoted Immortan Junka above, but Sephiroth also made a post that normally I would of warned.  You both just received this public reminder.  For all others you will simply be warned.