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AkkenNovikov.

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  1. UCR, for reasons of their own paranoia, played a strange game in the lead up their exit. First we had the leak - which we were informed definitely came from LSF and with no reason to assume UCR would lie to us about this made a number of forum changes.Then we had the screen shot about LSF plans to declare a DL wide war again from UCR and more crying about security (this was the one that really over egged the pudding. The plans didn't exist and the member in the shots is inactive).  While this was going on UCR were telling anyone that would listen that LSF were going to hit them because they were leaving DL - never discussed, certainly never threatened.  UCR never mentioned to any of the people they were crying to that LSF had voted to declare in NPO in defence of SNX and couldn't hit them if they wanted to. All of it to get this cancellation up a few hours before our DoW.
     
    It's clear as crystal what's gone on here now. I'll tell you this for nothing, what UCR should have done is just left DL, there would have been some disappointment but nothing more. What you have done, the way you've gone about it, is a self fulfilling prophecy because at some point this is all going to come home to roost for UCR and no one you cry to is going to stop it from happening.


    So let me get this straight, if you were handed screenshots that implicated a member of an allied nation In a ploy against your alliance you wouldn't ask them about it or at least tell them about to find out what is going on? We posted what we were given and both sides discussed.

    Knowing where we thought it came from we asked, lsf called it out as being fake it was pushed aside, we did acknowledge that lsf did do forum overhaul (so did we just in case) and by that time vote was passed and we left. No harm no foul.

    LSF did not inform the UCR of the time that you were going to DoW or even if you were even going to carry it out.
    Our vote ended and we left. And to my knowledge LSF could not enter into conflict unless all parties of DL had agreed on war, and LSF made no formal request to the UCR to begin vote until the UCR's vote to leave DL had passed.

    Considering the heated atmosphere at the time we honestly believed you were going to be pissed off, considering all that had transpired did we think you might retaliate? Maybe, it was a possibility we had no way of knowing. We had hoped not and go about our merry way.

    But all this talk about roosting is making me hungry. So I'll take my leave from this silly place.
  2. Taking the decision was not at all difficult Kiloist, once they realized that LSF/SWF are not ungrateful prats like them.
    What did involve difficulty is the BS stories they cooked and fed them to Atlas and SRA (and god knows who else) about information getting leaked, about being a post-split victim, faking a screenshot etc
    Thankfully SRA realized that. As a matter if fact,even UCR members are realizing that how their own govt fooled them into believing this and are now joining abandoning the hermit kingdom to join the Elesufis to defend an ally who had helped them during the FAN war.

     

    Ah yes Ronjoy, see what you and LSF fail to realize that those members that left the UCR and joined LSF voted in the UCR to leave Die Linke.  So ya'll might think about that before accepting their applications.  (I think only 3 people left?)

     

    There was a leak and LSF even said that it probably came from their unprotected conference room and I will quote Comrade Trotsky from the UCR forums:
     

     

     

    I can assure you, however, that this "leak" was not born out of malevolence, but neglect. The LSF forums are poorly kept and older than the blue blazes, so these things *do* happen from time to time, but it is an issue we have made sure will not happen again. 

    So if LSF denying that they said that its silly.  And if they aren't and its just you saying that... well you don't know anything of the situation. 

     

    oh and about the screenshots, well see thats a bit funny because you sent them apparently (I mean who else would use "RJ" initials on IRC ronjoy?), and taking into account your last message to the UCR before we gave you the boot... wouldn't put it past you.  But we even gave LSF the benefit of the doubt that they were a forgery and dropped it after some discussion. 

     

    So the way I see all this added drama its non-sense, that why the UCR hasn't said much about it. Thats why we ignored it, its crap, little kid stuff.  The sounds of someone that has held a grudge for so long and can't let go.... so let it go.  

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