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  5. Peace for NONE

    in TE OWF Archive

    Posted

    So let me get this straight.

    NONE is not an alliance according to Walford.

    It makes total sense... because None members don't fly the same AA.... oh wait

    Well, at least they don't have forums... nevermind

    I guess you can't be an alliance if you don't have anyone in charge/speaking for you.... oops

    Surely since None isn't an alliance they wouldn't have any rules/foreign policies/embassies etc... <_<

    Well I guess since they are truely unaligned they wouldn't ever have reason to communicate or support/defend each other... :o

    Can someone please explain to me how they aren't an alliance? As much as they seem to not want to admit it I can't think of how they are any different than any other alliance in TE (perhaps minus a DoE I haven't checked to see if they have one)

    Besides the fact that in TE anyone can be attacked at any time for any reason. UJD was doing you a favor when they realized you were vastly outnumbered. As for the sneak attack/update hits, every single alliance does that before an attack. Why would an alliance post a DoW before they hit their opponent? They would lose a huge strategical/tactical advantage for doing so.

    Your policies are your own choices, but whether you want to believe it or not you are taking advantage of a glitch and you have to deal with both the benefits and consequences of that decision.

  11. Round 7 Black Trade Circle

    in Cyber Nations Tournament Edition

    Posted · Edited by jhannaway

    Fish - natas31

    Aluminum - Caprica

    Uranium - Hordanes Land

    Wine - sapphiredagger

    Furs - Andrewbird

    Gold - Caprica

    Silver - Andrewbird

    Coal - natas31

    Wheat - jhannaway

    Water - sapphiredagger

    Gems - jhannaway

    Lumber - Hordanes Land

    First come first serve, this will be an all round circle for black members. Reply if you are interested.

    Nation is Raiderville btw so you know where to send the trade offers to

  12. Roman Empire Announcement

    in TE OWF Archive

    Posted

    At what point does crying foul become an actual military strategy to meet this new policy?

    It's a war game, has been since it's inception, always will be. This post could easily be "Oh btw, RE as a whole is just going to roll over every smaller alliance" instead it's "A part of RE will be attacking Smaller alliances, and unlike if all RE attacked the smaller alliance, you'll actually have a fighting chance" He's essentially said that he's giving a smaller alliance a chance to WIN a victory over RE. It could be RE's going to roll everyone, and that would be just as justified. It's a war game after all.

    No one doubts its a war game... however with all of the spying, treaties, blocs, lies and other stuff I guess people could forget.

    As for the fighting chance I think that is debatable which is what we are doing on the forums.

    People crying foul here don't seem to get that Tibs is actually doing you a favor, he's giving you a fighting chance. He didn't have to, he certainly doesn't GAIN anything by doing it, he could conduct training exercises under two different conditions.

    From what I have seen it is generally looked down on when bigger alliances curb stomp micro alliances. So it seems that the point of this announcement is to either gain support for this new policy or at least limit negative perception when or if the attacks begin.

    1) He could do them using his entire alliance at once.

    True, but that would be a waste of war slots.

    2) He could do them without ever having made this post, so you'd have no clue that the threat existed.

    True again, but like I said I think that would generate a lot of negative feelings about RE. No one likes a bully.

    Somedays I think if hear the word "fair" to describe military action in this game one more time I'll give up on trying to figure out human beings survived long enough to invent tools, guess what everyone, for the past oh... all of human history, battles tended to be won more often by one single factor more than any other. Surprise. It's how Alexander won his battles, it's how Napoleon did it, and it's how the Allies in WW2 did it. Tibs just did you all a favor by throwing surprise out the window. So take off the skirts, build up your defenses, and prepare for it. He's basically told you all, look out we are coming. So instead of complaining about it, how about you.. I don't know.. prepare for it?

    I don't have a problem with Tib or RE. In fact, I think what they are doing is good strategically. I just thought the announcement was a way for RE to attack smaller alliances while limiting negative reaction by making the fights seem fair. It was clear by his last post that isn't the case so it was just a matter of misunderstanding.

    This whole thread reminds me of a Mark Twain Quote "If you take a stray dog, feed it, give it attention, and care for it, it will be loyal to you. This is the principle difference between a dog and a man" Show a little gratitude :P

    I don't know if gratitude is the right word....but never the less I think this discussion has run its course. RE is free to do whatever they want. However, when you are #1 your actions are always watched and judged. I understand that RE has to do what is best for RE and that is fine, but the if you don't like it do something about it attitude makes me uneasy. As an ally of both RE and TPF I would hate for the game to turn into an us against the world type thing.

    I think it is obvious but I will just state that these opinions are mine alone and do not represent any actions/beliefs of my alliance.

  13. Roman Empire Announcement

    in TE OWF Archive

    Posted

    " Those lists will be provided to the opposing alliance as soon as the attack begins"

    I don't think you understand. In real situations, you won't know who is attacking you until you are attacked. An attacking alliance isn't going to say "hey, expect a midnight blitz from us tonight!". So if the point of this exercise is to simulate real situations, telling them that we're going to attack beforehand will be kind of pointless.

    If you witness an instance in which the numbers are disadvantageous to the defending alliance, please feel free to call us out on that. If a cohort gets its butt kicked, then too bad. The whole alliance isn't going to back them up. I don't know what Tiberius thinks of this, but if another alliance wants to do the same thing to us, I would be perfectly fine with it.

    I am not saying that you should tell people who you are going to attack before you attack them.

    I am saying that you should release the lists of members in each cohort. That way if a small alliance wanted a "training exercise" against a RE cohort they would have that opportunity.

    Essentially you are able to hide behind the large numbers of your alliance until you are ready to attack. Because not only does a small alliance have to worry about RE attacking them, but they won't know who is in a cohort so they don't even have the opportunity to plan an attack. Giving a list of members in a cohort after the attack doesn't do them any good, because it will be obvious once all the wars are declared who is in each cohort.

    But I guess in "real" situations you will always get the benefit of being the aggressor. You would think that if the point was really training then it might benefit you guys to have to be prepared for both an offensive war or to defend yourselves in case of a surprise attack. If nothing else but to see how your members of the cohorts can rally and start counter attacking.

    Like I said earlier, it isn't a bad strategy, but I don't see how you can justify it other than we are bigger so we can do this and deal with it.

    I only suggested that you guys release your cohort lists so that if a micro alliance wanted to do the same thing to you guys and play by the same rules they would have that chance.

    It would at least be the honorable thing for you guys to do.

  14. Roman Empire Announcement

    in TE OWF Archive

    Posted

    As Tiberius said, we will give them a list of nations in the cohort that is attacking them.

    Exactly... how kind of you to give up who is attacking an alliance after you have already hit them.

    That was the point of my post. You guys are free to attack whoever in a "fair" fight, but you don't give the opportunity to anyone else.

    Have fun with your training excercises... I hope it makes you guys feel better about yourselves.

  15. Roman Empire Announcement

    in TE OWF Archive

    Posted

    who says you can't?

    Anyways, I'm doubtful, because it would be hard to know a cohort!

    That is the whole point... unless RE lists all of their nations and which cohorts they belong to and doesn't help its members in defensive wars then it would be impossible for that micro alliance to attack RE.

    Instead RE gets to decide what a "fair" fight is and then pick and choose which alliance to hit and when for "training purposes".

    I am not saying it isn't a good strategy but I don't see any justification of it other than a big guy picking on a little guy because they can.

  17. Regarding peace terms with TPF

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted

    If you feel the reps are "unfair" then by all means keep fighting. However, uou aren't garnering any sympathy and the longer the war persists the more damages your alliance takes. It makes no sense for the loser to complain about terms from the winner. Especially when the winners are being generous. It isn't like you are being forced to reroll/disband/change gov.

    You would think considering how much TPF has been damaged in this war getting peace quickly and starting the rebuilding process would be a priority. I guess not.

  21. 4 Hours

    in TE OWF Archive

    Posted · Edited by jhannaway

    All the advantages? PRI still has the average NS. I had to blitz two nations much larger than myself. It probably wasn't the best decision to attack this alliance (once again, not my first choice), but we will win ultimately.

    What allies does PRI have anyways?

    Unless they sign an aggression treaty, which is becoming more common in SE.

    nvm I will take this to the private boards.

  22. 4 Hours

    in TE OWF Archive

    Posted

    Make that:

    OB- 26 Nations/ 14 in Anarchy 54%

    Pri- 20 Nations/ 6 in Anarchy 30%

    I think we've earned some respect here. I also think if you guys would be willing to admit you picked a fight with an opponent you vastly underestimated, instead of talking about calling in your friends in a fight you started against an group you had every advantage against... would go a long way towards solving this amicably and could even end up being a friendly future relationship.

    @jhannaway: I agree with what you're saying, this will benefit neither side if its prolonged. BUT, please look at it from both sides... only once the wounded animal became the hunter in this situation was there any talks of ending this, while OB still held the advantage there was nothing but silence in a war it began over one of its nations going rogue and attacking a member of Priapism. How would you feel if one of our members did something disrespectful to your group and we used your alliances defense against it as a reason to jump you guys? I imagine you would feel the very same way we do. While this is CN:TE and the rules are different and the play is more aggressive, respect is still respect.

    Thank you for your time,

    Bob White of Hoojib

    PS. Since there has been nothing but OB sack riding in this topic anyway? Go OB go!

    I don't really follow your post, but I personally am glad you guys have fought so hard and so well. Makes the game very fun. I am not in gov so I have no idea about peace/etc. I do know that in TE that peace is just usually peace without stipulations. I would be perfectly happy to finish out the round of wars (or end them earlier if everyone wants) and just have both alliances go our seperate ways with no hard feelings, but I will understand if people want to continue.

    Good luck to you guys in the future and future rounds and as far as respect goes I have never had any disrespect for Priapism.

  23. 4 Hours

    in TE OWF Archive

    Posted

    LMFAO....I will accept surrender terms when I see a big fat 0 next to "Infrastructure" of any and all OB nations...then...and only then will I be willing to discuss peace terms...until that time....as a good old newfie boy I'll say this....."yer stun as a bucket of ski-doo parts and twice as ugly OB!"

    :lol:

    Hey fair enough... you do realize that there are nations on both sides that are severely hurting, if you want to make this a never ending war I don't see how it will benefit either side.

    Holding grudges on TE makes 0 sense come Aug 25th we will all have big 0s next to infra. That being said everyone I have fought have been classy individuals, but just wanted to let you know that I can still fight very effectively for at least 2 more cycles, and if I need to drop even more nukes I will. We can end this in a couple of days and say congrats to good hard fighting on both sides, or we can keep the music playing and keep dancing. Your call, but if you want to continue the war just for your own personal grudges I don't think you are doing any members of your alliances favors.

    Good luck and good hunting!

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