Athenius
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Yup Vladimir, your Francoism only brings meaning to these who care. All of us heathens couldnt care less actually. Your walls of text will crumble just as easy as the members of Pacfica have. Words cant save you...
Come to me, I will give you understanding. I will crush you with word and sword, along with the rest of Lady Pacifica!
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Ahhhhhh. Finally I reach the guy that people accuse me of taking after!
Well all good my friend! Look forward to working with you!
Have a wonderful day.
If you like to see some of the work, you can go here: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?a...blogid=201&
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WOW. What a joke!
Surrender? NEVER!
Lady Pacifica has some nukes for her enemies!
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Strange post from a guy in an alliance who responded to our constant pleas for a better world with " You don't like it? Do something about it. Might make right." and other phrases often used by a totalitarian dictatorship such as that which you describe. If we're fascist then what are you? Heroes? Saviors? Your arrogance in thinking that this world cannot get along without your iron fist and often bragged about jackboots is what got you in this mess. Your posts have shown that not only do you have no idea what's going on or what this is about, but that you have learned nothing about how it got to be this way.
When it's back is to the wall, even a mouse will fight it's way out. You would do well to remember that.
Yous ill-repute and heathen ideals are to be questioned. All that 'you' and 'your people' care about is: Trolling and Destruction!
Good day sir!
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So this is the propaganda the feeds you? I have a feeling you won't be feeling quite as optimistic regarding not failing in about a week from now.
Yet I see the enemy continues to 'rant'. How sad.
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So first you claim NPO is strong because they don't lose but then you say they need failure to know what it is to be strong.
See you misunderstood. Failure for Pacifica will not be on a grand scale, it is the weeding out that we are working on. The enemy on the other hand will greatly fail!
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yeah, just keep showing us who's boss.
Strength and Failure:
(This is extracted from my 'original' application to Pacifica and fitted for Pacifica!)
Many people will try and split ‘Strength and Failure’ into two very vast categories, trying to only expound on ‘Strength’ with a minimum focus on ‘Failure’. I believe differently.
‘Strength’ is the ability to communicate, write, and negotiate; furthermore, is providing an array of ‘Service and Leadership’. Without continual ‘Failure’, we are unable to really know what ‘Strength’ is. I believe in addressing the bonds of ‘Failure’ full throttle, for ‘Failure’ comes from shortcomings and imperfection as a ‘Human Being’. We Pacifican's could lie like many, and encompass ourselves in the blindness of ‘Perpetual Strength’, but if we did this, then we would cause ourselves ‘Unnecessary Failure’. When Pacifican's face the throngs of ‘Failure’, we take it in light of investigation; through our investigation of what we have ‘Failed’ to do, we am able to ‘Improve’ (in essence: Strength) on what we have failed in and learn from our mistakes. In learning from our mistakes, we will have the unwavering ability to teach others and give advice on how to avoid huge ‘Failures’.
‘Failure’ is unavoidable in the end, but with a persistence of heart and passion for ‘Truth and Understanding’, comes ‘Wisdom’. ‘Failure’ is one part of the grand clock of time. Without all parts working together or at all, time stalls or stops completely, and ‘Unnecessary Failure’ then consumes the very depths of the being. (This goes back to the ‘Principle of Courage’.)
If Lady Pacifica is to ever kneel, it will only be but for a moment, for she shall then stand tall and destroy the very movement and vision of the enemy. Pacifica has, is, and will continue to ‘PREVAIL’!
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THESE DOCUMENTS ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC!
GOOD DAY!
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Thank-you! I want to say that the constructive criticisms will not go unnoticed! All of you have a grand contribution, which makes the war and diplomatic processes so rich in context and content. I look forward to discussing other matters in the near future. Until then, happy day!
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No individual nation is even remotely close to strong enough to combat an entire alliance of fascists unless they also happen to be handicapped.
The terms involved in this propaganda rant are so confused one couldn't even begin to intelligently discuss them. I didn't vote because it would be a validation for this worthless thread.
As I can see, very 'little' respect is being given to the true 'content' of the document! I feel that many are trying to refute rather than understand the point being made about the enemy or who Pacifica is. No longer will such documentation be presented to be violated by such ill-reputive behaviours! Thank-you my fellow Ememies. You have made your 'true colours' show! May you now understand the very reason this war is upon the enitrety of Cyber Nations. No longer will your empty 'refutes' and 'disbelief' be tolerated. May you eat your 'oppression of Nations' and your 'hate of a 'collective whole'; war at this point, is the only solution to such defilement. You failed in the 'Diplomatic Talks'. I see really, that the 'ONLY' people that really addrtessed this poll, WAS the enemy. Good day and may you seek mercy in your suffering, for you deserve NONE! Until you bow to you fault, you will suffer by your 'own' actions. Diplomacy in the future will only be reached if a state of 'unilateral compromise' can be reached. I look forward to working with all of you in the future. Until then, happy killing!
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Your quotation marks are appropriate. You're reading right out the Pacifican playbook, fine sir, and are no more individual than the rest of your collective horde.
My talk is finished here for now. I will let enemy pestilence fight it out among themselves. I clearly see why 'Diplomacy Talks' failed. The enemy refused to 'compromise'!
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Is Vladimir your mentor?
I am my 'own' person. I do not hail from anyone!
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The way you place things in quotations makes you sound like you're being sarcastic; yet when you spout such nonsense, that is not at all hard to believe.
My fellow Comrade. I do not intend to insight war or its principles as a whole against you; but, this is the time for no debate until you understand your former travesties at the 'Diplomacy Table'. The 'discussion of resolve' flew off to war, because another Nation decided to 'infringe' on the 'progression' of 'True Principles'!
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And you didn't follow the definition at all. Well, since you want to get into an intellectual debate, and since I've been keeping the Boiler Room at arm's length, this'll be a very liberating reprieve.
The etymology of the word fascism is in essence the perfect fit for the ideology itself. Fascism was named as such due to the Mussolini's use of the fasces as a symbol, which dates to Roman times. In Roman times, a fasces (derived from the Latin word fascis, or bundle) was in essence an axe with bundles of sticks tied around it. The symbolism of the fasces as intended by Mussolini was quite obvious: it represents strength in unity: the state, as the axe, would never break, so long as the people, symbolized by the sticks around it, were there to defend it. That is in essence, all fascism is: intense nationalism and jingoism; the promotion of the state over the individual. In essence, it is the polar opposite of Marxist ideologies (from Socialism to Communism to Anarchism), where the individual is promoted over everything else, and is also greatly opposed to liberal democracy (rather obvious, as fascism developed as an alternative to the liberalism of the Western Allies). Fascism promotes the restrictions of personal rights for the good, and in defense of, the state, or nation. Now see the difference between the definition of fascism and your OP stump speech?
Now that we know what fascism represents, let us point out what fascism is not. It is not "evil" (evil is a societal/individual viewpoint, and is honestly a stupid and childish way of judging anything: because depending on the society, virtually anything can be labeled as "evil"). Fascism is the antithesis of liberalism, and something I, as a social liberal, oppose with every fiber of my being...yet it is not "evil", simply an opposite viewpoint. Neither does fascism actively promote war, disunity, or all those other buzzwords you decided to throw in there. Ironically, and completely contrary to your OP, fascism developed as an ideology to bring together complete unity and peace within the state.
Now we get to your point decrying the New Pacific Order as a Social Democracy and calling everyone else fascists. All I have to say is...what sort of strange, twisted, mirror universe have I stepped into? And why is everyone suddenly sporting a goatee...
The New Pacific Order is something no one can quite frankly call democratic, by any stretch of the word. A democratic system requires the people, or in this case, the members, to hold ultimate power, and to have the ultimate say, whether directly (in the form of direct democracy) or indirectly (in the form of indirect/representative democracy, or a republic). That I know of, the New Pacific Order has never held elections for the position of Emperor before: who ultimately, with the IOs, hold the power (and really makes it a dictatorship.). The New Pacific Order can best be described as an autocratic meritocracy (and, if you were willing to go general beyond belief, fascist). To call it a democracy is a fallacy: nor is it also correct to call it social. In general, there are very few issues or policies concerning the New Pacific Order that would make it even eligible to be considered a social democracy. Nor does it's track record in foreign policy or on player rights actually support that either... Whereas quite a few within Pacifica may view it as socially democratic...belief does not necessarily correspond to reality. Similarly, the so-called "Communist" states of the 20th century, with very few exceptions, were neither Communist or Marxist.
Now on to Karma. Karma as a bloc cannot be considered fascist: nor can the alliances aligned with it. I'm actually sure quite a few of them are offended you would even dream of making them out to be fascist pig-dogs (sorry INT, sorry LSF, sorry commies, you're actually fascists in disguise.
). The vast majority of alliances on both sides actually hold elections (of varying degree). Since alliances are the closest approximations for nations, it's not really rational to label the entire Karma bloc as "fascist" or "anti-democratic" or whatever it is you view them as. Karma is in essence knocking Pacifica from it's position as the leading power in the world hegemony: a hegemony that quite frankly has done everything you've postulated. Stripped alliances of the ability to exist entirely, used fear as a weapon to silence the opposition, and deprived alliances of the freedom to exist peacefully and independently. I mean GPA was TOTALLY never attacked. Nope. Not at all. Then the rest is unconcealed pro-Pacifican propaganda, which really doesn't seem to be realistic at all.As for the quotes: perhaps you should use relevant quotes, that actually mean something. Socialists saying bad things about Fascism. WHY I NEVER!
If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.
John Stuart Mill
This would be more relevant. Mostly because you just condemned Pacifica as being anything but fascist with your:
Also: JUST Conformity? Everyone believes their standards of conformity are "JUST", so you're just shooting yourself in the foot and making Pacifica look even more Fascist.
Haha. Pacifica is 'Democracy' entwined with 'Principles of Conformity'. Having a Central Head and Upper House of Government, in no way 'bars' the expression of the people. People in Pacifica are to 'respect' the State, but also express 'individuality'. Thus 'Francoism' is born!
My friend. The enemy is 'fascist' and wants to 'place' a Viceroy over Pacifica and her Allies, to 'suppress' them and to make them 'suffer' at the 'command' of evil principles. Fascism may not define the 'overall' agenda of the enemy, but it does play a 'strong' role. Pacifica is far from 'fascism', she is 'progressive' in all she does!
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I understand why you thought this would be a good idea but frankly think you are hurting your own cause.
By all means though, carry on.
NOT trying to make a cause. I am 'stating' facts and how to resolve the 'travesty and tyranny' of the enemies!
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I find it so entertaining that because we don't agree with you and we fight againt you we are facists. Could it be more juvenile? :lol:
If being good at the game means NPO are facists, then i suppose they are.
Like I have said before, an 'Evil Conglomeration'. It seem to me that the enemies have no foundation of 'Discipline' or care for a fellow Comrade; or an understand what 'True Diplomacy' is!
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Considering that the NPO seems to promote the well-being of its alliance above the well-being of others, is headed by what is essentially a dictator, has previously monitored the content of these forums and has suppressed its opposition more times than I can count, I think that you may have mistaken who is and who is not "fascist".
Pacifica believes in 'Authenticity' and 'Just Conformity'; a FAR cry from the principles of 'Fascism'!
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I beg to differ. You have a lack of the overall usage. Study 'Francoism' and the very 'Progression' of Pacifica.
People are only 'booted' because they refuse to embrace a 'collective whole of progression'. You my friend, are sadly mistaken on your comments! Read the other 'Joint Articles' before you go bashing on something you obviously have no grasp on!
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Well you're right there: you guys really shouldn't have attacked in the middle of negotiations and then stabbed your allies in the back!
'Debate and Diplomacy' is the 'Resolve of Catastrophic Conflict'; yet at times, the 'Catastrophic Conflict' is the 'Resolve of Diplomacy and Debate'!
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All this talk of bondage is sure to get a few people excited.
The talk of 'Fascism' has everything to do with this war. Those who are trying to topple Pacifica and her Allies are wanting to destroy her and create a 'State of Bondage'. SOme sa that I do know what 'Fascism' is; I do; and yes I may have taken the term to am extreme, but is this war not extreme? There are clearly 'two' sides to this war, one who wants to keep a progression of the people, and one who wants to 'destroy' and 'minimize' the other. This war is a failure of Diplomacy, a failure to succeed in the art of unilateral submission. Because there was NOT a yielding of fault, war will be the ONLY resolve at this point. Many may get mad at this post and say, 'You are using things out of context and how can I be fascist?' The enemies are trying to derail those who want to progress in a submission to a greater cause. Yet, this WILL NOT HAPPEN! The enemy will once again understand where their place is, and it is not in the place of prosperity!
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Also, that isn't the definition of fascism. At all. It seems to have gone over your head.
Fascism \ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
Date: 1921
1) often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2) a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality
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I am undecided. I chose this not because I'm to weak to chose sides, but because I feel "Freedom" is vaguely defined here and also that my personal definition of what true freedom is does not exist as a practical matter. In fact, I view the ideal of freedom as but an illusion to man who will always be enslaved to resources, the need for order, and his own basic needs.
I also feel that bondage can be liberating. There are some who need or wish to be directed in their life and so there are often very willing slaves and very apt masters. Thus control is not by default evil as the premise of this discussion would like to indicate or assert.
That said, the poll is flawed, devoid of only but biased and skewed options.
I se, I see. Yet how can you fully judge this poll if you have not read the rest of the 'Articles' that connect to it? Read the others, and maybe then you can be combative!
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NOT BIASED! HONEST TO THE MAX!
Plus I DO NOT USE RANDOM QUOTES, they ALWAYS fall in line with the Article I am expanding upon!
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Biased poll: check
Sneer quotes EVERYWHERE: check
I am x therefore my enemy is y: check
Random quotes from famous people: check
Well it was a nice try but suffice to say you're no Vladimir! And while usually that's a compliment this time it's meant to be derogatory.
NOT BIASED! HONEST TO THE MAX!
). The vast majority of alliances on both sides actually hold elections (of varying degree). Since alliances are the closest approximations for nations, it's not really rational to label the entire Karma bloc as "fascist" or "anti-democratic" or whatever it is you view them as. Karma is in essence knocking Pacifica from it's position as the leading power in the world hegemony: a hegemony that quite frankly has done everything you've postulated. Stripped alliances of the ability to exist entirely, used fear as a weapon to silence the opposition, and deprived alliances of the freedom to exist peacefully and independently. I mean GPA was TOTALLY never attacked. Nope. Not at all. Then the rest is unconcealed pro-Pacifican propaganda, which really doesn't seem to be realistic at all.
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I have a 'new' Article, but yet I will keep it from 'you' because 'you' seem to enjoy thrashing topics!