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Triskelli

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  1. I also recommend tech deals for rapid growth, but just a clarification:

    Caleb, he needs a good chunk of that 3 million to pay for the tech he's going to have to buy. If he turns around and sends you that money he'll be left at $7000 again, and won't be able to hold up his end of the bargain.

  2. Alchemy is always looking for new members: Head on over to our new forums and check it out:
    [url=http://www.cnalchemy.com/]Alchemy Forums[/url]

    We offer $12 million in starting aid, we're a very social alliance with an active membership, and we have a spot waiting for YOU!

    Also, props for actually answering the poor mans question :smug:

  3. While I do not completely agree with the motives of either the Hegemony or Karma, I do feel that the NPO did require to be knocked down a few pegs at some point. It was bound to happen at some point, it was inevitable.

    It just goes to show that people will not stand dictators or wielders of extreme power, regardless of their rightness or wrongness. Even if NPO had been the best thing to happen to Planet Bob, there would have been a simmering group of malcontents plotting their downfall.

    This is a GAME, and worse, it is an ONLINE game. There are trolls, newbs, griefers, dumbasses, and all other manner of daemons lurking about, willing that everything fall into chaos. I'm sure everyone of us has wished we were in Moocow's position, or we wanted to see the rug pulled out from beneath him.

    There is no true respect on CyberNations, no chivalry or honor. Because these things amongst such hordes of miscreants would be futile. We all use everything at our disposal to achieve what we desire, because there is no REAL threat of being condemned for it. Total war involving all members of an alliance is, was, and will always be inevitable, because at least one moron is out there willing to go to such measures. And because that single dip!@#$ is willing to go all the way, we all have to follow suit.

    I am sorry you were unjustly punished for actions that were not your fault, Bradley. But such is the nature of war, regardless of motivation or justification.

  4. It's as if you ignored my point completely.

    How are were operating under the assumption that we have special rights over other alliances? If any other alliance wants to be on the red team they have every right to attempt to take it from us. They will of course fail, but it's their right to try.

    Because you have explicitly stated that YOU, and only YOU are to have Red senate seats, even if another wins a seat by popular election. In a competitive and equal world, is that fair?

    You say that you welcome any challenges, but you seem to relish their defeat. Is that a moral way to treat the vanquished?

    Someone in this very post said that the Moldavi Doctrine is justifed because "[You] got there first. Is that truly a right?

    So yes, it's safe to assert that Pacificans believe their alliance is more equal than others

  5. I'll have to disagree on a few items here.

    On 'might makes right' ... how does right survive against wrong without its own version of might? And to continue my discussion with Mr Aros ... why should the New Pacific Order itself face the prospect of removal from its colour? If the rest of the world went to Red and tried to force Pacifica out, and if you claim that using force to send a group off its colour is wrong, then the rest of the world would be wrong for forcing an alliance off its colour.

    It's a very tricky area, although to be honest the conditions of the world render much of it moot. Why invade Red? And 'making a statement' can be done easily, and with more success, with words rather than with antagonistic actions. And if you think that you have to resort to thuggery to impose your version of right ... um, isn't that might making right?

    It's a Taoist belief that "Virtue without Power" is worthless.

    On the other hand, "Power without Virtue" is just as worthless.

    I do not think that the NPO should be cast from red; it need to merely cast out it's assumption that it has special rights over any other alliance.

  6. If every alliance in the game moved to Red tomorrow, the NPO would have no credible foundation from which to argue against their supposed trespass. If every nation outside the NPO disappeared tomorrow, their claim to Red would have the same basis as it does now: "we say so". When their claim is exactly as strong when they are the most powerful among many as it is when they are alone in a void, it means their claim has no root of justification in a social contract. And that means it is worthless.

    Then why keep it?

  7. Now, if you wanted a really interesting conversation, you should ask if the Moldavi Doctrine is moral. That discussion would hold much more promise.

    I think I shall do just that, because that was the question I really wanted to ask; My chronology was merely mixed.

    Because it is objectionable to say that all candidates for the Red Team senate ahould belong only to the NPO

    But in response to your statement, it is part of the natural cycle in CN to have wars.

    Wars, no matter the scale, could not exist without a causus belli

    This cause is always in the immediate interest of the agressor.

    Because there are no geopolitical or strategical benefits between nations, the only benefit is through supplies "stolen".

    So, to increase one's chance of survival, it is only natural to engage an opponent smaller that oneself

    On a small scale, this is Tech Raiding; Evil and Immoral

    On a Large scale, this is a Great War; Glorious and Patriotic

    But because of MDPs and MAPs, there is no chance of war between alliances except for the actions of rouge nations.

    Who tech raid.

    So, tech raiding, while not moral, it is neither immoral, much like a hailstorm. A force of nature, if you will.

    And has it ever been considered moral to tamper with natural forces?

  8. If someone waves a big stick at you, you will probably say "Yes" to a lot of thing.

    If that big stick represents the largest alliance in CN, you may even say "Yes, sir".

    And if this large alliance tells you to stay out of the red sphere... you say "Not a problem".

    If not a treaty or official document, then what is it?

  9. If someone waves a big stick at you, you will probably say "Yes" to a lot of thing.

    If that big stick represents the largest alliance in CN, you may even say "Yes, sir".

    And if this large alliance tells you to stay out of the red sphere... you say "Not a problem".

    But that doesn't make it justifyible: just easier to avoid the topic all together.

    This, however, is a breach of independent liberties and free choice, wouldn't you agree?

  10. As I am sure you are all aware, the New Pacific Order claims soverignty over the entire Red trading sphere, and oversees the development of Red alliances.

    My humble query to you, the masses, is this;

    What right?

    What right gives the NPO to make such bold claims unchallenged? What right allows TOTAL control over the Red senate seats and it's alliances? What right makes the removal of productive competition Okay?

    To look at it, it seems that sheer Might makes the right. But you, dear reader, hopefully know that might isn't right, and that because you CAN do something doesn't mean that you should DO that thing.

    But, like the humble Socrates before me, I realize that I know nothing. So, I give this question to you, so that you may decide:

    "Is the Moldavi Doctrine right?"

    ~Triskelli

    *EDIT*

    Changed main discussion topic from Revenge Doctrine to Moldavi Doctrine*

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