Nananana
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You're either that brazen or you're that foolhardy. Either way, no complaints or grievances from me.
AH HA
we broke your bloc
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Good thing we have ODN as Meatshileds
really it's more like war slot filling.
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To begin with, allow me to wish you, the erstwhile reader a good day and give you my thanks ahead of time for choosing to read this piece. Indeed, I feel it necessary to warn you, the reader, before going on further that such a piece as this one will require a certain prose that would make it veritably impossible to discuss what I wish to in shortened version. Therefore, for those of you who would wish to simply be given the point quick and easy, that you may continue to unleash your torrents of unlearned filth upon this global forum of ours, need not read at all, I take pride in telling you that I do not cater to filth such as yours. Although it is important to state I do not blame these degenerates for their faults, indeed, a man cannot be blamed for the fallibility of his intelligence; for as I understand it, a large number of the users upon this forum are nothing more than a pack of jive talking imbeciles who do the world no benefit with their continued debasement of the written word, it should come as no such surprise that the people of whom I speak are far behind the civilized world's standard in intelligence and in literary capability. For those people of whom I speak, again, I must ask you to simply skip this piece, as I can safely assure you it will contain nothing at all of which you would find yourself of interest.
I must say I am skeptical of such a thing but, as a gentleman, I shall continue on even in the face of my surety that no one upon these barbaric forums shall continue to read this most eloquent piece of literature I have put together. Supposing you are, however, still reading then allow me to congratulate you, for you have surely proven yourself a man of higher standard than most of the denizens of this backwater, now allow me to skip to the topic at hand.
This post is about a most interesting phenomena, the war between the Polar Order and their slaves and lackeys, and the rightful, just, and dashing coalition made up of the gentlemen from \m/, Poison Clan, FOK, and the assorted allies of both. Truly, such an occasion as this has been long since expected, good men such as those in our coalition cannot stand and live and let live as they sit fit whilst men of ego and evil sit upon their thrones and dream of what should be theirs and how to take it from and oppress the rightful. In this case, the NpO, as they're called by the ruffians of this forum (i shall conform to their acronyms as to not further alienate my reader base) decided to take it upon themselves to attack my associates and myself in \m/ for what they perceive as a major grievance.
Of what grievance do I speak, you ask? Perhaps you may recall on the older and much more visually appealing forums a certain military engagement between the just alliance of \m/ and the alliance of FoA for the purposes of acquiring technology with which to better our nations. This is no new occurrence on this planet of ours, these "tech raids" happen numerous times every day upon numerous nations and alliances that are too small for most to care. And this is why the actions of NpO are so preposterous, they seek to attack our alliance and the nations whom reside in it in an attempt to prevent such tech raiding, when every day other alliances and countless dozens of nations are put to the torch simply for a small gain in technology and area of influence by those with the means to do so.
Why, then does NpO not seek to stop these raids? Even if they turn a blind eye to the unaligned nations of the world as they are destroyed and looted, what then of the small and micro alliances that are similarly razed on the grounds of monetary and technological gain? Why are these nations bereft of NpO's staunch protection in the face of oblivion? Surely these alliances are not so insignificant as to leave them to their plight while others are given protect and aid? Oh, but that is exactly the case, you see, NpO counters with arguments that it is, in fact, okay to raid alliances, just not ones that fall within their parameters.
What are these parameters, you ask? I am sure all of you, my readers, are familiar with them, such needless constraints as "having less than X members or Y nation strength or Z treaties", it is all well and good that some alliances wish to make use of these measures, perhaps to keep their member base in line and out of trouble or perhaps out of some principle for which they stand, both are admirable. This differs from the NpO in that these restrictions are self imposed by the alliances in question, where as NpO seeks to enforce them upon other sovereign alliances under threat of force and pain of death. They have proven several days ago that they are, in fact, willing to go to war to support these claims of theirs, and thus we stand today.
Surely you can see the hypocrisy in the stance NpO has taken, and even if you do not, they have certainly provided enough evidence that debased their own claims as to open the eyes of even the blinders of readers. The leader of NpO, a certain man by the name of AlmightyGrub, has time and time again stated he cared nothing at all for FoA, the alliance of whom they claim to go to war over. Although the FoA situation was resolved days before any threats of hostility began to circulate upon the open forum, the NpO remained firm in their stance to bring us to justice for a crime that was agreed upon to be solved by both parties.
Why then, if NpO cares not for FoA in the least, do they go to war with \m/? They might say out of principle, it is not that we raided FoA they care about, but that we dared to use our sovereign right to raid so big an alliance as FoA was. One might believe this, or look forward more so to the truth. It should come as no surprise that the NpO hates the alliance \m/, indeed, they shattered the union that bound these blingin nations together years back, and now that we have reformed so their hate has only continued to fester and the infernal itch of this urged them to war those they still bore hatred for.
That, my friends, is the real reason for this military conflict. The NpO hates \m/, and while i fully believe they do not wish to destroy us, they wish to prove that they can, in fact, do so and prove their superiority over an old foe. Perhaps this is their sovereign right to do, but for a nation so convinced in its own moral superiority, I cannot help but question their course of action in this regard. Perhaps they should look more closely at their own moral code before seeking to force such codes upon others.
Still, what is done is done, and the tides of war have come too far now for both sides to simply lay down their weapons and return to their lands and their families. War rages, and every day millions of lives are claimed, nations are burned, and the world edges every little bit closer to oblivion. On behalf of \m/, I say this:
To NpO, you wanted a war, and you have one. We are not the weak willed alliance we once were the previous time we met upon the field of battle, indeed, we have hardened a great deal in mind and body since our last meeting. Your conflict only worked to further forge our ties in blood, and I can assure you for every one of us that dies twenty of yours will be found dead in their homes post invasion or from atomic fire, you will not take us and the fruits we worked for with ease.
To our allies in Poison Clan and their allies and their allies, allow me to thank you for the great honor of fighting with you side by side. This thinly veiled moral crusade instigated by the NpO cannot be allowed to succeed. I ask you, what will become of the world should such strong handed tactics win the day, nothing good, I can assure you. We will not soon forget the kindness you deliver merely from standing beside us on the battlefield, may we all come out victorious in the end.
To the rest of CN, know this; \m/ will not back down from our principles just because one in a higher seat of power thinks they can dictate to us what is right, what is wrong, and what codes and laws we must abide by. Though we may lose much by way of lives, members, and infrastructure, we will never lose our strength in conviction.
I don't even know where to begin with this. There's a complete lack of focus with this writing piece. You spend so much time trying to ward off those who wouldn't read through your whole post before replying and yet..... by their very nature, they aren't going to read it anyways. When you get down to your argument regarding an alliance's sovereignty and the support you give for it, you fail to realize that your arguments works very much against your position. Finally, when you cannot possibly rationalize NpO's actions against you, you cite their hatred for you when nothing you have presented illustrates that fact.
The writing style reminds me of Patrick Ewing at the free throw line, you are overly wordy in a manner consistent with a dog licking himself, and above all, you have the gall to talk of the bastardizing others do to the written language. You're right though, a man cannot be blamed for the fallibility of his intelligence, except in a much more accurate way, he can.
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Long Live Ordo Paradoxia
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Don't get me wrong, I was merely wondering if we should expect Umar to go rogue on us or TOP to attack!
I think sometimes you forget that we're The Order of the Paradox.
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You did it wrong. Batman is a former Superfriend. Atlantic Shadow Confederation, not Athens.
Although I suppose you think SF is out to get you as well?
Come again?
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so now if we put Mhawk face to face with Warrior Concept could we make them think they were staring into a mirror?
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I just wanted to know what alliance you guys think, if any, is the new superpower on Bob.
Also this would help as I don't keep on top of Bob politics (busy w/ Fantasy RP).
Here is my definition of a superpower: an alliance that has global economic, political and military influence. If you still don't understand, then just think who would be the United States in CN.
Batman has always been and will always be an unstoppable force
also, I can pull off wearing tights in a stylish fashion
Can you do that?
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so what do I win?
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You need to use blue text, that way at least the folks who don't get it will be able to understand that you're doing a terrible job of imitating RV.
Im really not going to bother giving you a history lesson you dont need, anyway.
you will find it is you who are mistaken about a great many things
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No, actually, unlike most creation theories, it's actually been proven and cited multiple times that the creator made this world in order to have conflict. A truly sadistic concept indeed, but for those who wished to live in peace, our Creator did place the natural "Hippie Shield" in order to save them from the horrors of war.
Obfuscation is not a very good argument. Verbage for the sake of rambling does not make a coherent argument, it is merely rambling.
As far as dynamic forces go...Sponge himself is a dynamic force. The NpO under him also worked in this regard. He has said it himself multiple times in the past, and revels in this fact. What Sponge always hated was the status quo, since Polaris was not the #1, premier alliance of the game. Pacifica was, and Sponge always worked to change that fact.
Now then, no one here is advocating conflict. Quit trying to put words in our mouth about what the only alternative to stagnancy is...Or is your imagination so small as to not fathom what else there is to this world besides stat collecting and curbstomps?
A nobody like you couldn't possibly interpret the words of a god. And nowhere do I believe his vision calls for a world without conflict(what the ball and chain of peace mode is), only a world not centered around it.
until his quite illegal dethroning, Sponge was the emperor of NpO as long as I can remember. The thing is, for the longest time, I remember him and NpO being quite buddy buddy with Pacifica, so either he fought the "status quo" only when it became convenient for him or he was always working to undermine Pacifica in which case, he is quite the treacherous character, a trait you might find admirable as a sith, but not a trait suited for those of us with backbones.
not advocating conflict...... are you really a sith? Plus are you seriously kidding me, you're talking about how this world was meant for conflict but then you're not advocating it... what you believe to be the vision of the maker, what with your proven and multiple cited information and you're not advocating his will?
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Ok...Where to begin with the numerous fallacies here?
First paragraph...Thats a blatant mischaracterization. Considering my point was [ooc]This game was designed to allow for relatively free conflict, with an exception built in for those who did not want to have to deal with wars to begin with. When the point being responded to was the basely erroneous claim that this game was designed without having warfare in mind. Made by Sabre.[/ooc] The claim Sabre made has since been openly laughed at and dismissed as base folly.
Second paragraph...Attacking a dynamic force in the world for the simple reason that it is dynamic, and you don't like actually is contributing to stagnancy, by taking out those who would challenge the status quo *potentially* for the sake of protecting the status quo. It is also base pettiness to do so, considering there was no justifiable reason for it, or Causus Belli. There's a difference between being a mustache twirling villain while on the top and intentionally acting to squelch dissent using vague threats. One person does it to play a role. The other does it to be a jerk and preserve the status quo. The latter is what promotes stagnancy, the former promotes interest and activity.
Third paragraph...Im...Sorry? So TOP taking offense to this essay is somehow doing it a favor? And what do you even mean by the other two sentences?
No one really knows what the maker intended. The accumulation of capital takes hard work and savings and due to the relative ease with which capital can be destroyed, it is not so outlandish to believe that the maker intended us to be cautious and analytical in our actions. Reckless an dangerous actions put not only the leader at risk but the entire citizenry of the leader's nation. Perhaps the citizens of your nations just naturally smell bad and thus do not mind a lack of access to certain comforts like decent shelter and hot showers however some of us strive for more. Some of us wish to build and lead utopias of free flowing information. Where scholars may debate the merits of iron and steel vs the more noble super alloys. Where our citizens enjoy the highest literacy rates and the highest happiness. Where our citizens can be as free as possible, does that sound like something that would interest you? The spoils of war, and the excitement war brings are tempting, but at times, a leader must sacrifice for his citizens to thrive. Great societies are not built in a day, and it takes a long time and hard work to create such a wonderful society. Whether exercising the option of war, or trying to build a utopian society... no one can truly know what the maker had intended.
The NpO was a dynamic force? A force that constantly challenged the status quo and never acted in their own interests of protecting the status quo? I believe you have the roles reversed there buddy.
You seem to want conflict, we try to oblige by creating conflict in this thread and you're still upset with us. There's just no pleasing you.
Why are you leading a nation at all then? You should retire and head a historical society or something. Seems like your goals and activities wouldn't be radically different in that case.As leaders we all have certain ideals and goals for our nations, it's just that we have other interests as well. I could never retire as my nation's leader, for one, the sex tapes haven't been leaked yet, but also, there are exciting things going on within the nation of Batman. We've recently completed the funding of our movie industry and with that, we shall begin exporting entertainment to other nations. Due to the high literacy rate of my country, there is no shortage of talented writers to write scripts for movies as well as TV shows. I hear that Arctic Animal Planet(hosted by the Penguin) has been green lit and there will be another season of Robin's variety hour and a documentary on Global Warming directed by Mr. Freeze. These are exciting times for my nation and there's no way I could completely step away from it, bruschetta be damned
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[ooc]Had Bob been designed as a peaceful world, war would not be an option, nor would it be as fully developed as it has become.
And you call deposing Sponge an act of fighting fighting stagnation? The man lives to start drama. Actually, wait, you fought Polar just because. I guess that isn't so much fighting stagnation by trying to take out a dynamic community within the community, as it is oppression and contributing to it.
You say NPO hegemony made Bob boring. Before that you said TOP and friends contributed to making Bob boring. Then you say TOP did stuff to fight stagnation without any real follow up, except for the NoCB war, which was, by all logical accounts, a detriment to the community. Which further contributed to stagnancy by what that war was actually started over.
How are you not contributing to making Bob boring now? As a matter of fact, you do nothing to address the point Heggo's making in the OP. You are, in actuality, proving it with your posts and ill-thought responses.
And taking credit for allowing the Karma War to occur is a bit of an exercise in hubris, isnt it?[/ooc]
I still don't see how you are rebutting Heggo's claims.
man was designed by the maker with fists that he could optionally use to beat his wife, it does not mean that it is right to do so. We have been bestowed upon us free will for we are not mere clockworks.
Wait, we declared on an alliance, and for that, we're causing stagnation? Is that what you're really saying? I would tend to think that if Citadel stayed above it all and didn't stoop down to the petty squabbles and conflicts of others that it would have been pretty stagnant... what do you think?
For one, Citadel has kept this wall of text(what kind of self respecting sith writes walls of text anyways) from becoming stagnant. Also exercises in hubris are not exercises in stagnation. Our nations run on props so let's hear it.
As I said from the beginning: this sort of attitude was born as a response to conditions in which that was the most you could hope to achieve. Conditions have changed and one needn't feed off of these justifications for mediocrity any more- one can now reach out and strive for more than that.But don't you see.... we have broadened our horizons, we are aiming higher. All of us in Citadel have ambitions that we are pursuing. When I'm not kicking the joker's teeth in, for example, I've taken up cooking. I find it to be very therapeutic. I can now make dynaite california rolls, the most refreshing salsa you've ever tasted, and omelettes that always ensure a pleasant morning after. You may say that these are not true ambitions but allow me to convince you otherwise with my fratatas. They're guaranteed to make a jedi feel passion or your money back.
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Just as one may be contented with but a few grains of rice in a famine.
so a sith should only seek to be as powerful as he needs to be to fulfill his own ambitions?
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Depends on your perspective.
What a preposterous notion. Even on such a flawed and magical assumption, if I were to be the villain, who would the the good guy be: a midget with metacarpal deformities, a crazy old cat lady with a latex fetish, or one of many emo, make-up wearing jokers? I thought that the sith would be down with my crusade seeing as how I embrace sith ideals far more than I embrace the ideals of a failed jedi community. it all begins with the simple realization.... there is no peace. And from that, I let my passion for hurting (other) costumed aggressors do the rest.
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BE the 'villain'. Evil is a matter of perspective. Bring back the fun.
Batman can never be the villain
true story
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Interesting stats... also of course Batman is quite sneaky.
I'm here
what's going on in this thread B)
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there is only one
standard to judge alliance
MS-Paint contest
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Anyone notice that Spartan has only declined in NS since the revamp of FAIL. I do not believe this is a coincidence. TOP, you can express your gratitude towards me in poem form.
Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate.
I wrote that just for you.
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I was the last person let in before waiting periods and member discussion threads. But the soul still burns. (neither speedbump kept VladimirStukov or Walker out, though
) Also you guys never added me to the big wall with everyone's names on it 
You should try reapplying to see how fantastic it is. They have me do a lot of interviewing because my thumbs are bigger
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*puts on birthday suit*
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Ok you want to protect your virginity, that's fine mang do whatever you want. But don't jump into an orgy then.
if you think about it, it's less an orgy and really more of a series of polyamorous relationships.
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Please tell me this is a joke.
launching a first strike nuke is to lose some sort of nuclear virginity(which you get back each war). Because everyone else is doing it we should do? That's just silly. I think that people are far too quick to "just do it", and TOP is not an alliance to sway under peer pressure.
Why is it so hard to simply want to treat other people like you want to be treated instead of treating others how they have treated people. If we go with the latter, then everyone has a right to take a shot at everyone.
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So close. Your analogy is missing the part where we ate more nukes than we would have if you fully committed to the war.
more drugs for the rest.
it seems that peace for Vox and other PZI groups was something seriously pushed for. And along those lines, I'm very upset that you guys did not work to actively infiltrate the enemy's organization to discover their battle tactics and share with the relevant parties their war plans. Where's your full commitment?
) Also you guys never added me to the big wall with everyone's names on it 
FOK Declaration of War
in Alliance Announcements (IC)
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[quote name='Steve Buscemi' date='24 February 2010 - 01:27 AM' timestamp='1266996644' post='2201078']
TOP, maybe you'll realize the depths at which you have fallen for poor allies like IRON and ex-Hegemony. You threw away Citadel and you threw away FOK. Basically all your good allies you replaced with poor ones.
Now if only your Grand Master would come out of peace mode.
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jesus, you actually got a first hand account and you still think that it was TOP and TOP alone that killed Citadel. Of all the alliances, TOP fought very hard to try and resuscitate it. If you actually gave a damn you would have seen some of us working in the trenches to try and fix things. and yeah, it was TOP that cancelled on FOK, you're right.