FauxHaligonian
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Very commendable actions, IRON. This could easily have been a DOW.
OOC: Although someone told me to stop posting on this thread, I must say that I'm glad to see the above person, who is very commendable, still lurking on CN.
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First, it's Error404, not 404Error (confusing, yes, but a rather important distinction). Further, I would make the suggestion that you not simply close this one loophole, but, if you must do things through legislation and law, pass some sort of law to allow your government and courts to act appropriately, regardless of whatever loophole may appear in the future. Though, following seeming GPA precedent, this sort of loophole has never prevented appropriate action in the past. Like others, I don't really feel that GPA is (at least not deliberately) moving away from its neutrality. I do rather feel that this was a reaction to the negative attention GPA has been getting lately, an attempt to assert GPA's sovereignty or strength or whatever.
I do hope my government does react to this action accordingly, which I know its doing at the fastest, and the best it can.
OOC: And yes, I was confused about the name, sorry about that folks.
And thank you for seeing that GPA is nonintentionally moving away from its neutrality, which I believe to be true.
But sadly, after receiving a few messages from various GPA Members, I'm going to leave this argument, considering I'm probably not helping the Agency in any way. Though it was a pleasure trying to make sense out of alot of "confuzzling" posts that have come after the declaration made by the IRON government.
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Just because your rules say it's ok means nothing to the international community. If you guys had a little common sense, then this wouldn't have happened.
I did not make the decision whether to oust 404error or not.
I stated beforehand that IRON has a right to be mad.
As for common sense, lessons have been learned. I'm not saying IRON is wrong or right in what they're doing.
My statement was in regards to making a belligerent policy. This is not even near a belligerent decision, it was technality. We're paying for a decision made in the jury room, I know that.
What I'm trying to do, is give you a clear note, that this is not belligerent interventionist policy. It was a technacality that was found to be a loophole in our Declaration of Neutrality. I doubt CN will see this happen again, I am sorry it did come to this, and probably my apologies mean little to you, seeing as I'm just a run-of-the-mill member of GPA.
I'm defending the overall policy of GPA in terms of whether it is passive or belligerent, and it is not belligerent, and this aid sent was not managed by GPA, it was managed by one nation being sovereign. And making a decision he thought he could make at the time. I don't endorse what he did, and most if not all members at GPA did either.
Edit1: @Scalare, I can't assume what they talked about, because I'm not them.
Edit2: @Bakunin and Bob, Although it seems that GPA is endorsing by keeping 404error, I can say that by reforming the DoN, the loophole will probably be closed, a vote on that is being in progress. And I do recognize the invitation, and to be honest, I'm wary about it. But from looking at the members' posts on the GPA forum, the attitude is pure regret right now. And as I said, I'm not one-minded here, I told you my thoughts on the ruling will stay my own. I see your logic, don't get me wrong, and trust me, the GPA, from what I've seen thus far, is regretful.
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KP speaks truth. Virtually anyone could notice GOONS is in a state of war.
404 Error was not waging wars him but his alliance is. Isn't aiding a member of an alliance while they're at war a violation of their DoN?
(Pardon me if I missed something, I just came home and I've only read the OP)
No, the DoN said you cannot aid a NATION at war, not an alliance. That was the loophole that is being rectified at the moment. The problem is, when he sent and received the aid, it was before war was declared.
And as for noticing that an alliance is at war, I can't speak for 404error. But GPA didn't endorse the deal.
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It would seem that your leadership is amongst that group.
As a stoic person, who can't speak for my leadership, and for only being part of GPA for one month, I can't really respond to that. But I can speak for the rest of the GPA members, from what I've seen, they regret its come this far.
Edit: @Penchuk, its not entirely out-of-the-question, but whatever motives or knowledge he did have, he made a bad choice. And as I said before, I've gathered that he was sending it to a real life friend. But this does not mean the GPA endorsed what he did. The ruling was because of a loophole in the legislation as you saw. It wasn't meant to be an insult.
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Geeze GPA, you really need to get your house in order.
edit: Didn't know that GOONS were at war? Give me a friggin break, no one can be that dense.
It took me about two weeks before I found out GOLD had disappeared from the map. Seriously, there are some players that pay no attention to the international politics.
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What I don't understand is why someone would send aid outside of the alliance, for apparently no reason whatsoever. That money could have been used by another GPA member, rather than someone in GOONS. It defies any kind of common sense, and the fact that GPA was tolerant of it really shows that there may be some underlying sinister elements to the alliance. Honestly, I think TOP and LOSS are more neutral these days.
To put it into perspective, probably it was a lax in judgement by a real life person who sent the aid to a real life friend, thats what I gathered was the person's reasoning. GPA didn't endorse it, GPA doesn't hold everyone's hand who makes a foreign aid agreement, and can't really always keep tabs on people making what they believe is a sovereign decision.
As a GPA Member, I can say that I am gracious IRON did not send this as a Declaration of War, but I'll keep my views on the closing of the embassy under wraps.
As for the GPA ruling, the problem was, the legislation had a loophole, and the person jumped through it, and got away with it. GPA had no intentions of insulting anyone by ruling innocence, and the Reps were a payment of good faith. IRON does have a reason to be angry, especially by the prodigous amounts of time given to us to respond. I'll keep my opinions also under wraps about the court ruling, as I should, because I'm going to try to stay stoic.
I, for one, can say that I hope relations improve, I'd really like to not see any more conflict come out of this.
We are human beings, people learn from their mistakes, this being one of them, and they move on. We're learning from our mistakes, I can say that by just looking at the poll that is choosing to close the loohole. Its a small lapse in human judgement, and the result will be that the loophole will probably overwhelmingly be closed.
GPA doesn't have some secret meglomaniac belligerent policy governing its internal machinations. GPA does not fund other peoples wars, we don't have Lend-Lease programs like Roosevelt did back in WWII to the Allies, before the USA got involved. There are no "Destroyers for Bases" that was also a Roosevelt Policy. It was one nation acting alone, and from what I gather, giving aid to a real life friend, who THEN went off to war. GPA ruled the way it did, because of the policy, and seeing as no one was at war when the aid occurred. 404error, for being part of GPA, might've not known that GOONS was even at war, had he not been up to date, considering hes part of a non-belligerent alliance.
Regards - Faux
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Bumpity Bumpity.
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I, FauxHaligonian, hereby surrender to Legion as a member of \m/, and abide by all terms set down by leadership. Including the decomm of tanks, planes, and aircraft, military improvements, etc. etc.
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Virillus, you led us with class, I'm abhorred to see this come out of the woodwork, but I'm glad you posted it.
It is harder then anything else to stand up to criticism while doing what you know is right.
The battle-scarred helmets of my nations' armed forces are off to you.
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nukes, the easy button for those that can't fight.
I'll have you know I've been tactically challenging two of your nations that just attacked me (and are considerably larger then me) for the better part of the last half hour. And they have yet to anarchy me. Now I'm not going to call into question their military abilities, but you can't speak for all of us in \m/, especially the ones who don't have "the big red button" to push.
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read the MDPs, optional aggresion when asked....do you guys actually read the treaties or just make stuff up as you go?
I edited my post, but still the same basic principles apply to it.
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Makin the truth be known. We came in with no nuclear intent. I ain't !@#$%*in. I nuked my guy right back.
Always have a contingency plan, because usually the plans you set down first off, aren't going to work out.
You joined a huge war like this, not expecting nukes to fly your way? What the hell...
Even if you weren't bandwagoning, we're fighting for the survival of our alliance. Any other alliance would do this when we're fighting like this.
Which means: You're doing this as what we could consider as a massive inter-alliance tech raid.
On our side: Its a fight for survival of the alliance.
Boo-Hoo Batman, you got nuked, its been going on since the beginning.
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That wouldn't have anything to do with how many of the\m/ higher strength nations were in peace mode when we hit of course.
Uh, yeah, I'm not going to diss the Legion war machine, but I have yet to see most of my peers in my whole division get hit by Legion. And most of the hits were responded to well...
*shrugs*
And most of my strength division is not in peace.
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Nobody move... We're all agreeing.
Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous.
Yeah, that shocked me as well.
Haha, At least we do agree on something.
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*makes a quick note not to fight any countries named "Thermopylae" (sp?)*
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Yep.
Good luck guys! And just remember... \m/ are pirates... not soldiers.
Just to add historical context, and more for the benefit of giving a history lesson then anything else...
Most "pirates" were actually privateers in the employ of nations, during the periods of the 16th and 17th Century, many nations could not maintain a very large fleet of ships during peacetime. The obvious reasons being maintenance, cost of paying, supplying, feeding crews, etc. etc. etc.
When most wars were ended, many sailors, who were by that time professional, fighting through wars and such, went to service as privateers. Pirates were probably some of the most craziest fighters that were out there, and did have strategies of their own for their battles. Its hard to compare a force of what many would call today a marine (considering they did most of their work on the sea or coastal regions) to a standing army.
And believe it or not, we don't have military buy options that include "Captain Jack Sparrow" or "The Black Pearl", everyone tech raids, I guess you could say \m/ does it more then others. But to be honest, I am very pleased to be hailed to have fierce fighting abilities, so I must thank you for that, wain.
But with that, I have something more to add...
\m/ is more then an alliance, its an ideology, take it from someone who came from Legion and fought in GWIII, and left thereafter. Every alliance has a trait, and ideology, and an agenda understanding it, is where people go wrong. That is why this war is happening now. It is a series of misunderstandings, miscalculations, and "check" moves made by both sides. It is everyones fault that this war came to being.
This is a misunderstanding that will have everlasting effects on planet bob, on both the vanquished side, and the victorious side. I am a proponent of diplomatic resolution, but that doesn't mean that I'm not willing to fight for \m/, who have given me that chance to grow despite the circumstances that were around me when I joined it.
A quick end would be nice, but it doesn't look like something in the near future to look forward to.
My best regards to both sides in this.
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Welcome to it Legion.
May we meet on respectful terms on the battlefield, despite what caused this war.
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Good to see Atlantis moved to solve this quickly.
Good job.
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gotta love the fins!
*plays Jaws! music?*
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You guys aren't contributing anything to this war.
I think that thats a little harsh.
They actually are contributing to this war, they're fighting alongside their friends. No matter how much you disrespect their military prowess, make no mistake, FOK's intervention is a contribution nonetheless.
I'm not going to argue how effective it was, I think it was full of win to be honest. You can have your own opinions of course.
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HAIL FOK!
All drinks at the bar tonight are on me!
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Yay, more kids to play with us on the playground!
Welcome to the war, CSE, may we do battle respectfully and honorably.
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This is now officially a Great War.
Agreed.
Official IRON Announcement
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Heh, it was made by one of our ambassadors, who will remain nameless, who told me that "I'm making things worse by posting."