Changing Hands

[Lavo]

The New Rebel Post (Pakistan) - A changing of hands is expected in the western half of Pakistan today, after the results of a recent plebiscite in the area was announced. The plebiscite, tabled and presented to the population a few weeks ago, came about after a petition whose signatories numbered in the thousands, asked the local government to be able to decide their fate, rather than permanently remain as an RA Autonomous Region. The results, which were announced yesterday night, were as follows:

Remain an RA Autonomous Region: 0.5%
Become an RA Autonomous Provence: 4.4%
Become part of Rebel Army: 21.0%
Become part of the Greater Timuridian Empire: 56.0%
Reunite with the rest of Pakistan: 18.0%
Become independent: 0.1%
Write in: 0.0%

[TheShammySocialist]

[b]Timuridian Foreign Office - Public Diplomatic Dispatch to the Government of the Rebel Army[/b]

The government of the Greater Timuridian Empire has taken note of the recent plebiscite taken in Western Pakistan Autonomous Region in the Rebel Army. The tribal intricacies of this region taken into account, these regions have shown throughout history to be very factional, and can even be troublesome at times. We acknowledge the complete sovereignty of the Rebel Army in this matter and region, but we are interested as to the attitudes of the Rebel Army of the ownership of this region.

We also invite any nations with vested interest in this region to weigh in on this matter, following the results of this plebiscite.

Area in Question:

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Edited March 15, 2011 by TheShammySocialist

[king of cochin]

The Kingdom of Cochin is interested in the Western Pakistani provinces of Balochistan, FATA and the Khyber Pakhtunwa. The Gosree City military base in Balochistan and the historic Karakoram Rail Road that runs from Kashgar to Gosree City through these regions are also indicative of the potency of Cochin claims to these regions. The Kingdom hopes that if ever the sovereignty of these lands are being ceded by Rebel Army Cochin historical political, economic and cultural relations with these regions be considered.

[TheShammySocialist]

"While we do recognize the Cochin claims to these regions, we must also note that the significant Pashtun population in the FATA region have much more in common with their Pashtun brethren in Afghanistan. The Plebiscite has also shown significant support for the Timuridian Empire in the region, not to mention the fact that Balochistan, theoretically, would give the Timuridian Empire a port on the ocean."

[king of cochin]

[quote name='TheShammySocialist' timestamp='1300243735' post='2666073']
"While we do recognize the Cochin claims to these regions, we must also note that the significant Pashtun population in the FATA region have much more in common with their Pashtun brethren in Afghanistan. The Plebiscite has also shown significant support for the Timuridian Empire in the region, not to mention the fact that Balochistan, theoretically, would give the Timuridian Empire a port on the ocean."
[/quote]

There is much credence in the argument raised by Timuridian Empire, which is why we have another proposal to make. Some years ago before Balochistan became entirely part of Marscurian Pakistan its Western half was controlled by Rebel Army, Eastern half by Marscurian Pakistan with the Gosree City forming the divide. Perhaps those borders be redrawn with the Eastern half of Balochistan being a part of Cochin and the Western part being under Timuridian sovereignty divided yet again near Gosree City.

[Lavo]

[quote name='king of cochin' timestamp='1300242767' post='2666067']
The Kingdom of Cochin is interested in the Western Pakistani provinces of Balochistan, FATA and the Khyber Pakhtunwa. The Gosree City military base in Balochistan and the historic Karakoram Rail Road that runs from Kashgar to Gosree City through these regions are also indicative of the potency of Cochin claims to these regions. The Kingdom hopes that if ever the sovereignty of these lands are being ceded by Rebel Army Cochin historical political, economic and cultural relations with these regions be considered.
[/quote]
"With all due respect to the Kingdom, the plebiscite results were fairly consistent in each voting region. In other words, the option to join the GTE was the highest all across the board. To give Cochin parts of western Pakistan would be acting directly against the will of the people, which is something we cannot and will not do under any circumstances.

And to answer the question about our attitude toward "owning" the region, we feel as if it is our duty to aid our brethren in the area, people whom we have in the past allied with and to this day consider family. We would welcome them into Rebel Army with open arms if they desired, and the plebiscite results do not change these bonds in the slightest." -Spokesperson for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs

[king of cochin]

[quote name='Lavo_2' timestamp='1300244146' post='2666083']
"With all due respect to the Kingdom, the plebiscite results were fairly consistent in each voting region. In other words, the option to join the GTE was the highest all across the board. To give Cochin parts of western Pakistan would be acting directly against the will of the people, which is something we cannot and will not do under any circumstances.

And to answer the question about our attitude toward "owning" the region, we feel as if it is our duty to aid our brethren in the area, people whom we have in the past allied with and to this day consider family. We would welcome them into Rebel Army with open arms if they desired, and the plebiscite results do not change these bonds in the slightest." -Spokesperson for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
[/quote]

"Seeing as an option of being part of Cochin was never offered the point is moot. But then again we defer to sensibilities of Rebel Army to decide the fate of its regions. We look forward to renegotiating the status of the Karakoram Rail Road with the Greater Timuridian Empire."

[Lavo]

[quote name='king of cochin' timestamp='1300244536' post='2666089']
"Seeing as an option of being part of Cochin was never offered the point is moot."
[/quote]
"This is incorrect. Please refer to the official poll results, reunification with the rest of Pakistan and thus joining the Kingdom, was indeed an option, and in fact was the third most popular choice."

[Triyun]

What other meaning could reunite with the Rest of Pakistan have other than join the KoC? It seems like this is splitting hairs.

[king of cochin]

[quote name='Lavo_2' timestamp='1300244785' post='2666095']
"This is incorrect. Please refer to the official poll results, reunification with the rest of Pakistan and thus joining the Kingdom, was indeed an option, and in fact was the third most popular choice."
[/quote]

Yes, we see that now. Then again the matter is at rest.

[quote name='Triyun' timestamp='1300244817' post='2666096']
What other meaning could reunite with the Rest of Pakistan have other than join the KoC? It seems like this is splitting hairs.
[/quote]

This is not splitting hairs. We have declared that the issue is at rest now to be deliberated upon by Rebel Army and GTE.

[TheShammySocialist]

"We will gladly renegotiate the terms of the railroad in question, of course. We thank the Kingdom of Cochin for their understanding in this matter, and will gladly defer the final decision of this territory in question to the government of the Rebel Army."

[Lavo]

[quote name='TheShammySocialist' timestamp='1300246306' post='2666112']
"We will gladly renegotiate the terms of the railroad in question, of course. We thank the Kingdom of Cochin for their understanding in this matter, and will gladly defer the final decision of this territory in question to the government of the Rebel Army."
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"With all due respect, the decision lies with the Greater Timur Empire. Rebel Army is fully prepared to turn over the region to the Empire, seeing the peoples' wishes and desires. Of course, we are ready to plan out a phased withdrawal and such should the Empire wish such."

[TheShammySocialist]

[quote name='Lavo_2' timestamp='1300247334' post='2666128']
"With all due respect, the decision lies with the Greater Timur Empire. Rebel Army is fully prepared to turn over the region to the Empire, seeing the peoples' wishes and desires. Of course, we are ready to plan out a phased withdrawal and such should the Empire wish such."
[/quote]

"The Greater Timuridian Empire, with respect to the Rebel Army, would certainly be willing to take a leadership role in the regions in question, and take control of this region, seeing as the Rebel Army is willing to part with it. We thank the Government of the Rebel Army for this ceding of this Autonomous region, and we extend the assurance that we will oversee this population with responsible rule. We are already planning an economic schematic for this region, that will ensure that all populations will be provided with employment, as well basic needs.

And we also extend the chance for the Kingdom of Cochin to renegotiate over the terms of the railroad in question."

[king of cochin]

[u][b]Private to Timuridian Empire[/b][/u]

The Karakoram Rail Road was constructed under the aegis of the [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=62233"]Baloch Accords[/url] signed between the Kingdom and erstwhile Marscurian Pakistan nearly two decades ago. It has hence as a lifeline connecting the Gosree City and the Baloch Province with the Xinjiang Province. The Gosree City is still one of the largest naval bases of Cochin and a vital industrial hub. The [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=62026"]Baloch Province[/url] too was gained by Cochin through negotiations with Marscurian Pakistan.

We hope that by reaffirming the continued operation of Karakoram Railroad Timuridian Empire would permit us to continue the operations of our sovereign territory in Balochistan, the [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=63423"]Gosree City[/url].

OOC: [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=89158&view=findpost&p=2390651"]Link of division of Pakistan between me and Lavo. Gray area is my Baloch province[/url]

Edited March 17, 2011 by king of cochin

[Lavo]

OOC: Cochin, just an FYI, I never continued your military access to western Pakistan once I moved into the region.

Edited March 16, 2011 by Lavo_2

[king of cochin]

[quote name='Lavo_2' timestamp='1300250879' post='2666215']
OOC: Cochin, just an FYI, I never continued your military access to western Pakistan once I moved into the region.
[/quote]

OOC: You never ICly did anything about it and even if you blocked Karakoram rail road, I still have maritime access.

[king of cochin]

[u][b]Message to Timuridian Empire[/b][/u]

We congratulate you on securing sovereignty over the Balochistan, FATA and the Khyber Pakhtunwa provinces. Would you be amenable to a discussion on the status of the Karakoram Rail Road and continued sovereignty of Gosree City on the coast of Balochistan?

[TheShammySocialist]

[b]Secure Transmission to the Kingdom of Cochin[/b]

"Of course we are willing to discuss the sovereignty of Gosree City and the Karakoram Rail Link."

[king of cochin]

Gen. Mahesh Varma, Commander of Royal Cochin Defense Forces would travel to Timuridian Empire to discuss the issue.

"Greetings, I am here to discuss the possibility of reopening the Karakoram Rail Road and to ensure the continuance of Cochin sovereignty over the Gosree City," Gen. Varma would speak to the GTE leaders.

[TheShammySocialist]

The General would be received by the Timuridian Foreign Ministry, Prince Davydov-Timur in Ashgabat, and escorted to the Foreign Ministry building.

"Of course we are willing to discuss the future of the Gosree City territory staying under the sovereignty of the Kingdom of Cochin," noted Davydov, as tea was prepared for them.

[TheShammySocialist]

"We would also like to ask the Kingdom of Cochin, respectfully, how much value is the Gosree City base to them," noted Davydov, taking a sip of his tea slowly.

Edited March 23, 2011 by TheShammySocialist

[king of cochin]

"Gosree City's importance is more symbolic than strategic to the Kingdom today. When it was established it was the principal maritime access point for the Kingdom of Cochin, a strategically important alternative to the Royal Cochin Naval Base Ratnagiri. It was at a time the biggest fleet base of Royal Cochin Navy, the main bastion of defense against the West. But with the incorporation of Indian subcontinent to the Kingdom our erstwhile need for maritime boundaries have been satisfied. Today Royal Cochin Navy has many major fleet bases and smaller auxiliary bases but Gosree City still holds a position of privilege. At one time fully one Shock Army Division, one Armored Cavalry Regiment and one Mechanized Division along with fully two regiments or 8 squadrons of fighter aircraft had been stationed in Gosree City. A principal military base it had also been the core of our ship building industries for several years and the major port of call for our commercial maritime trades. The very construction of Gosree City, carving a shipping channel 12km long into the hard rocky terrain of Balochistan has been an unprecedented and unrepeated work of construction.

Today Gosree City has less strategic value, the Army divisions stationed there have long been redeployed and the fighter regiments transferred. It is still a major fleet base in Arabian Sea but its value lies more as a training base. The reserve fleet of Royal Cochin Navy is stationed there where crews for new generations of warships are trained in unarmed warships of the reserve fleet. The reserve fleet is also assembled so that war time losses in active duty fleet could be easily replaced in numbers and qualified and experienced personnel.

Gosree City is also a vital hub for Cochin's military-industry complex. Being a closed military city it provides many advantages unavailable to other cities of the Kingdom.

So do you now see the value Gosree City holds to us?" Gen. Mahesh Varma would reply.

[TheShammySocialist]

"I definitely can," nodded Davydov, taking a sip of his cup of tea. "I am guessing the Kingdom of Cochin is concrete in its' position on Gosree, and that it will want to to continue to maintain its' presence there?"

Davydov looked hard at the Commandant of the Royal Cochin Defense Forces, as the General described the value the Kingdom ascribed the Gosree. Davydov's demeanor seemed unwavering, and without emotion, his stoicism was one of his best qualities that had earned him the slot of the Amir's Foreign Minister.

[king of cochin]

[quote name='TheShammySocialist' timestamp='1300988152' post='2674772']
"I definitely can," nodded Davydov, taking a sip of his cup of tea. "I am guessing the Kingdom of Cochin is concrete in its' position on Gosree, and that it will want to to continue to maintain its' presence there?"

Davydov looked hard at the Commandant of the Royal Cochin Defense Forces, as the General described the value the Kingdom ascribed the Gosree. Davydov's demeanor seemed unwavering, and without emotion, his stoicism was one of his best qualities that had earned him the slot of the Amir's Foreign Minister.
[/quote]

Gen. Mahesh Varma took note of the particular tone of the question and replied accordingly, "Yes, Gosree is an important territory of ours and we would definitely seek to continue to maintain our sovereignty there. It is only a moderate stretch of our resources to support it via sea and air and as of now there is now perceivable reason why would seek to relinquish our ownership of Gosree City."

[TheShammySocialist]

[quote name='king of cochin' timestamp='1300988430' post='2674777']
Gen. Mahesh Varma took note of the particular tone of the question and replied accordingly, "Yes, Gosree is an important territory of ours and we would definitely seek to continue to maintain our sovereignty there. It is only a moderate stretch of our resources to support it via sea and air and as of now there is now perceivable reason why would seek to relinquish our ownership of Gosree City."
[/quote]

"The reason I ask, is that the Timuridian government feels that such a base, inside of our territory, well it feels basically that Gosree is almost a colonial outpost of sorts. The size of the base, you said yourself, is rather substantial, it can hold a large and lethal force, when it wants too. Despite you saying that these offensive forces have been withdrawn, the capability for their stationing there can be a little disconcerting for our government," replied Davydov, his attitude remaining calm as he looked at the General.