ace072199 Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Always glad to see peace, Congrats!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoskia Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 o/ TKTB o/ iFOK I think I didn't forget any decent Alliance in the salutations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 [quote name='Dexomega' timestamp='1299991573' post='2662398'] I'm not being disrespectful at all, but shouldn't iFOK be getting reps more than anyone else? They did get royally ganged up on unlike SLCB. [/quote] SLCB did get royally ganged up on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliph Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Glad to see peace finally agreed on this front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphosis Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 After the whole AcTi nonsense, and the chest puffing, this does make me smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carfre Inpor Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Thanks for the help Turtles! Congrats on Peace! o/ TKTB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorponok Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Since I know iFOK didn't ask for them, I'm not surprised SLCB did. Reps were not due, but one can't choose the terms they surrender too. Whilst I'm glad our our brothers are at peace I am sad they had to suffer further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 5K tech, 2.5K of it required to come from TKTB, when TKTB have 17 nations, only 3 of which are seller-sized... Hmm, plus 34 slots worth of cash. At least the deadline is a few months down the road, so it can be done without forcing TKTB to send tech from its larger nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 [quote name='Dexomega' timestamp='1299991573' post='2662398'] I'm not being disrespectful at all, but shouldn't iFOK be getting reps more than anyone else? They did get royally ganged up on unlike SLCB. [/quote] Nope. SLCB faced worse odds than us. Even if 7 alliances declared on us, they didn't do as much damage as one would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikz Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 No white peace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GearHead Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 I don't think TKTB were actually helping NpO by staying in the fight. Doesn't really matter that you feel bad leaving the battlefield while they are still there. If you felt that bad, you should have defended them instead. SLCB is in their right to demand reparations for the unnecessary dragging out of the war. Good luck rebuilding to everybody involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volatile Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Congratz on peace to all involved. iFOK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchboy00 Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 [quote name='Jacapo Saladin' timestamp='1299966409' post='2661861'] TKTB could have peaced out with White peace many times, they chose to continue on past reasonable battle lengths in order to defend Polaris from a non enemy. This is fine, they chose that, I am sure Polaris is happy to have such a good ally, however they reap what they sow. They decided to drag this out, they will pay for it, and they knew that is what would happen. I see no wrongdoings here, only another just ruling from a rather benevolent cardboard box. [/quote]actually ifok hit us a few times along with fok (whom never declared) both at war w/ Polar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogal Dorn Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 wow, really? wtf is up with the ridiculous reps for an alliance of 17 members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 These reparations [i]are[/i] pretty brutal. TKTB seem to be taking it in stride at least. Congratulations on peace and good luck completing these terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardus Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 [quote name='Lord Brendan' timestamp='1300034944' post='2663014'] These reparations [i]are[/i] pretty brutal. TKTB seem to be taking it in stride at least. Congratulations on peace and good luck completing these terms. [/quote] Just a friendly suggestion: you really should avoid threads talking about the appropriateness of reparations for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Trail Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 [quote name='Lord Brendan' timestamp='1300034944' post='2663014'] These reparations [i]are[/i] pretty brutal. TKTB seem to be taking it in stride at least. Congratulations on peace and good luck completing these terms. [/quote] This is funny in so many different ways. I have to agree with Ardus here. Unless CSN decides to wave its reps (and waves the stupid 2000 tech requirement for the reps owed to legacy) you really shouldnt talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 [quote name='The Trail' timestamp='1300041639' post='2663123'] This is funny in so many different ways. I have to agree with Ardus here. Unless CSN decides to wave its reps (and waves the stupid 2000 tech requirement for the reps owed to legacy) you really shouldnt talk. [/quote] These are at least twice as bad as what DT has to pay, on an alliance that has fought longer and was weaker to begin with, and with less justification. Also, there is no 2000 tech requirement on the reparations owed to Legacy - in fact, they will almost certainly be entirely cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercoolyellow Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 [quote name='Faust Betreur' timestamp='1299961291' post='2661749'] TKTB entered the war against us to defend TIO. TIO peaced out over a month ago and TKTB refused our offer of white peace at that time. Why? I don't know. [/quote] You may not have known this, but TKTB has some other allies in this war as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 (edited) These seem perfectly fair to me. Moralists are always saying that an alliance who has entered honorably to defend their ally and wouldn't leave without them shouldn't have to pay reps. Well you know, actions like that have risks. If they didn't have risks, why would such an act be honorable? Anyways if you have a good offer take it. If you don't be prepared to face the consequences.You can't make the winning alliance do anything they don't want to, the only thing you can do is speculate on what they would do to you in a situation in which you don't have much of a say. If you think the outcome will be better than the punishment, go for it. If not, you shouldn't be surprised to see reps. Edited March 13, 2011 by Logan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogal Dorn Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 [quote name='Logan' timestamp='1300046232' post='2663240'] These seem perfectly fair to me. Moralists are always saying that an alliance who has entered honorably to defend their ally and wouldn't leave without them shouldn't have to pay reps. Well you know, actions like that have risks. If they didn't have risks, [b]why would such an act be honorable?[/b] Anyways if you have a good offer take it. If you don't be prepared to face the consequences.You can't make the winning alliance do anything they don't want to, the only thing you can do is speculate on what they would do to you in a situation in which you don't have much of a say. If you think the outcome will be better than the punishment, go for it. If not, you shouldn't be surprised to see reps. [/quote] good sportsmanship for one. if someone put up a good fight why punish them with such a ridiculous amount of reps for their size? seems asinine and counter productive to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Rogal Dorn' timestamp='1300051539' post='2663336'] good sportsmanship for one. if someone put up a good fight why punish them with such a ridiculous amount of reps for their size? seems asinine and counter productive to me. [/quote] Regarding the part of my post you bolded. From my view point, if there is no risks associated with an act then it becomes standard fair to keep on going than honorable. To your post, SLCB offered sportsman like terms when TIO left, TKTB disregarded the lenient terms and are now stuck with these. They weren't given for no reason, and not just because they can. TKTB had their shot for no reps, they valued extended time on the battlefield and in exchange are now paying additional consequences. Edited March 13, 2011 by Logan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchboy00 Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Logan' timestamp='1300052088' post='2663348'] Regarding the part of my post you bolded. From my view point, if there is no risks associated with an act then it becomes standard fair to keep on going than honorable. To your post, SLCB offered sportsman like terms when TIO left, TKTB disregarded the lenient terms and are now stuck with these. They weren't given for no reason, and not just because they can. TKTB had their shot for no reps, they valued extended time on the battlefield and in exchange are now paying additional consequences. [/quote] indeed the key for the winning side is to find an alliance to peace out early so they can say you had your chance of white peace with such and such. that way when not everyone is ready to leave with that alliance you can just give some numbers of reps and pretend like you offered white peace. reps are fine just dont pretend you offered white peace. Edited March 13, 2011 by ditchboy00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Thank you for your support and dedication TKTB SLCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cao Pai Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 I guess SLCB is lucky they have friends in high places. o/ TKTB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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