Seperation of Fronts

[Beauty]

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"As we are involved in the current Global Conflict of British Imperialism. We would just like to take a moment out to say we are now in two wars. We went to war with Britain in defense of an ally. [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=99265&view=findpost&p=2647994"]Pravus Ingruo has declared war on a whole different front.[/url] There was no reason for this nation to declare war on us. They had no treaty obligations at the time of their declaration. Therefore it is a whole different front to us. If you support their causes for war it is quite obvious your intentions and the world frowns upon you.

Therefore we are also looking to attend Peace conferences with Great Britain, Communist Australia, Slavorussia, Burma and Ireland in The Athenian Federation, An ally to both sides of the war."

OOC: [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=99265&view=findpost&p=2648044"]Admittance of No Obligation[/url]

Edited March 2, 2011 by Rotavele

[Zoot Zoot]

Great Britain will attend no peace conference until a full public apology is issued from the Republique regarding their heinous, unprooven allegations.

[Beauty]

[quote name='Zoot Zoot' timestamp='1299026872' post='2648838']
Great Britain will attend no peace conference until a full public apology is issued from the Republique regarding their heinous, unprooven allegations.
[/quote]

"This is proof that the British want no peace."

[quote]To: Caliphate of Africa, Tunisia, Maghreb
From: Republique Du Fleuve
Subj: British Rejection

The British have one again rejected peace. They want no peace due to they plan on taking over Africa. We ask you act on this soon as planned.[/quote]

[Yawoo]

As a general rule the Kingdom of Ireland will not attend any peace conference where her treaty partners involved in the conflict are not representative. Seeing as the peace conference in the Athenian Federation lacks the invitation and presence of the Empire of Pravus Ingruo, a treaty partner, the Kingdom will not be present.

[Beauty]

[quote name='Yawoo' timestamp='1299027562' post='2648856']
As a general rule the Kingdom of Ireland will not attend any peace conference where her treaty partners involved in the conflict are not representative. Seeing as the peace conference in the Athenian Federation lacks the invitation and presence of the Empire of Pravus Ingruo, a treaty partner, the Kingdom will not be present.
[/quote]

"So Ireland, You support declarations of war for no reason? Is Ireland an Imperialist nation? Tell me what is it that you like best about Pravus Ingruo's declaration of war? The part where he declared war for no reason? or the part where he declared war for a reason that was a lie? You support it, You should know or take your allies stance and ignore these questions."

[i]Rotavele Laughs[/i]

[King Timmy]

*** Private ***

The President having had all day to recover from his hangover was woken and given a transcript of everything that had been said by the Republic of Flavor Flav.

[i]"This makes my head hurt, it's all gibberish. Why can't they just understand how a treaty web works. We already declared war on them didn't we?"
[/i]
[i]"Yes sir."[/i] Replied his secretary.

[i]"Good, bomb the &@$! out of them."[/i]

[i]"Right away sir."
[/i]
By this time, both sets of bombers were 1 hour from the launch zone.

Edited March 2, 2011 by King Timmy

[Triyun]

You declared war on the United Federation of the East, we have a MDoAP with Pravus Ingruo, that you have bad intelligence is not our problem.

[Beauty]

[quote name='Triyun' timestamp='1299028476' post='2648900']
You declared war on the United Federation of the East, we have a MDoAP with Pravus Ingruo, that you have bad intelligence is not our problem.
[/quote]

OOC: Mind giving me a link to where I declared war on the UFE? ive heard this many many times and no one can show me a link. Tell you what ill even become your puppet if you show me a link.

Edited March 2, 2011 by Rotavele

[Yawoo]

[quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1299027699' post='2648862']
"So Ireland, You support declarations of war for no reason? Is Ireland an Imperialist nation? Tell me what is it that you like best about Pravus Ingruo's declaration of war? The part where he declared war for no reason? or the part where he declared war for a reason that was a lie? You support it, You should know or take your allies stance and ignore these questions."

[i]Rotavele Laughs[/i]
[/quote]

The Empire of Pravus Ingruo had solid reasons for declaring war on your nation. Your declaration of war against the English is a declaration of war against the treaty blocs of Zurich and Red Dawn. Of which, Pravus Ingruo's ally in the United Federation of the East is in Red Dawn, thereby your declaration of war not only encompassed the English but also many nations including an ally of the Empire's, as such, in defense of that ally the Empire recognized hostilities with your nation. It seems, unlike yourself, the Kingdom takes the business of war with extreme seriousness. You may laugh about war and try to slant the Kingdom of Ireland in diplomatic cables, but it will not change the resolve of this nation nor that of its allies. Perhaps you should be considering the lives of your people and surrender instead of continuing a useless struggle.

[Beauty]

[quote name='Yawoo' timestamp='1299028710' post='2648910']
The Empire of Pravus Ingruo had solid reasons for declaring war on your nation. Your declaration of war against the English is a declaration of war against the treaty blocs of Zurich and Red Dawn. Of which, Pravus Ingruo's ally in the United Federation of the East is in Red Dawn, thereby your declaration of war not only encompassed the English but also many nations including an ally of the Empire's, as such, in defense of that ally the Empire recognized hostilities with your nation. It seems, unlike yourself, the Kingdom takes the business of war with extreme seriousness. You may laugh about war and try to slant the Kingdom of Ireland in diplomatic cables, but it will not change the resolve of this nation nor that of its allies. Perhaps you should be considering the lives of your people and surrender instead of continuing a useless struggle.
[/quote]

"That is pretty much impossible, When you declare war on a country, you dont declare war on an alliance. You declare war on a country. We declared war on a country. The Athenian Federation is an ally and we cannot declare war on them due to treaty obligations therefore we never declared war on Zurich or Red Dawn. We declared war on the English Nation."

[Yawoo]

[quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1299028857' post='2648916']
"That is pretty much impossible, When you declare war on a country, you dont declare war on an alliance. You declare war on a country. We declared war on a country. The Athenian Federation is an ally and we cannot declare war on them due to treaty obligations therefore we never declared war on Zurich or Red Dawn. We declared war on the English Nation."
[/quote]

It is not impossible, I suggest your nation review both the Zurich treaty and Red Dawn. The fact of the matter is, by your declaration against the English you violated your treaty with the Athenian Federation. Luckily for you, they have yet to void it.

[Beauty]

[quote name='Yawoo' timestamp='1299028958' post='2648918']
It is not impossible, I suggest your nation review both the Zurich treaty and Red Dawn. The fact of the matter is, by your declaration against the English you violated your treaty with the Athenian Federation. Luckily for you, they have yet to void it.
[/quote]

"And through diplomatic channels they will not void it."

OOC: Dont RP my nations citizen or government. We declared war on Great Britain. Do not RP my nation declaring war on Zurich and Red Dawn as its a violation of rules. Thanks.

[Justinian the Mighty]

[quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1299012963' post='2648463']
[i]Rotavele Laughs[/i]

"We support England who declared war too, Oh wait, Pitiful me I dont know whats going on but im going to support someone who has Terrorized, Colonized, and attempted to Destroy Africa because they gave me money, Derp Derpa Derp"
[/quote]


[quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1299013182' post='2648471']
"Let me rephrase the Communist Australian Message so that it is more understood...

Communist Australia will not stand for such understandings, And as such the moment that our small army step in the Republique and the Republic, All government and Military Leaders will be rounded up and tried for crimes against humanity, Which Britain is also admittedly doing but we have a treaty so we cant do anything about it. As of this moment, We will not understand the message from enemy nations because it is simply something that could be talked about but we want to use our super small army to shoot it out because were small and Communist and were tied to a Non-Socialist nation through a socialist bloc"


"Haha I didnt even know we were doing crimes of Humanity now. I blame the rest of the world for not notifying me that we committed crimes against humanity, Nor did I know were terrorizing anyone."
[/quote]


[quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1299013878' post='2648485']
"Let me translate this.

We have decided to throw away our declaration of Neutrality and declare war because we were outsmarted by the Islamic once again. DARNIT!"
[/quote]


[quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1299028470' post='2648899']
"Let me get out my translator again...

Derp derp.. The British gave us blow.... DERPP DERPP [size="5"]DERPP[/size] [size="6"]DERPA[/size] [size="7"]DERP[/size]"

[i]The Senate chuckles furiously[/i]
[/quote]

Slavorussia would be inclined to enter peace talks with the Republique, but their government obviously lacks the tact and maturity to be serious at the negotiating table.

[King Timmy]

[quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1299028857' post='2648916']
"That is pretty much impossible, When you declare war on a country, you dont declare war on an alliance. You declare war on a country. We declared war on a country. The Athenian Federation is an ally and we cannot declare war on them due to treaty obligations therefore we never declared war on Zurich or Red Dawn. We declared war on the English Nation."
[/quote]
President Pegg face-palmed so hard when he heard this.

[Yawoo]

[quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1299029012' post='2648920']
"And through diplomatic channels they will not void it."

OOC: Dont RP my nations citizen or government. We declared war on Great Britain. Do not RP my nation declaring war on Zurich and Red Dawn as its a violation of rules. Thanks.
[/quote]

OOC: That was in no way, shape or form an RP of your citizens or your government. If you disagree, feel free to take it to the GMs. Otherwise, I suggest you, once again, read the Zurich treat and Red Dawn because you did declare war on them as a result of your declaration of war against Zoot.

IC:

The Kingdom of Ireland does not concern itself with the foreign affairs choices of the Athenian Federation, but thank you for letting us know your thoughts on the current treaty situation.

[Fizzydog]

OoC: aye aye aye

Listen, Rotavele, when you declare on someone in an alliance that demands protection for said person, then you technically declare on the alliance. MDPs are liked this.

Nation 1 and 2 sign pact.

nation 3 attacks nation 1.

Due to terms in the treaty demanding defense of nation 1, nation 2 counts this as a declaration of war against themselves.

[s]1 and 2 loltech 3, take their territory and sit on the land, doing nothing with it just so they have more pixels.[/s]

See?

[Beauty]

OOC: Per their terms I declared war on them, Per mine I didnt. Therefore ICly it is on my terms as it is my nation.

IC: We did not intend a declaration of war on Zurich or whatever that socialist bloc is that has all but socialist names in it. Therefore we saw it only as war on Britain.

[Fizzydog]

OoC: Yeah, but they don't care. They'll attack you anyway. That's the fun of getting stupidalliancetechrolled.

[Yawoo]

[quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1299029400' post='2648932']
OOC: Per their terms I declared war on them, Per mine I didnt. Therefore ICly it is on my terms as it is my nation.

IC: We did not intend a declaration of war on Zurich or whatever that socialist bloc is that has all but socialist names in it. Therefore we saw it only as war on Britain.
[/quote]

OOC: It doesn't matter what your terms were - it matters what the international community views it as, and on this issue, the international community will overwhelmingly side against your viewpoint.

IC:

Regardless of what you intended it to be, the matter remains that you did declare war on the Zurich treaty and Red Dawn as a result of your declaration of war against the English. Perhaps your military intelligence unit should be sacked for this oversight, or perhaps your foreign affairs team, or even, both?

[Beauty]

[quote name='Yawoo' timestamp='1299029582' post='2648939']
OOC: It doesn't matter what your terms were - it matters what the international community views it as, and on this issue, the international community will overwhelmingly side against your viewpoint.

IC:

Regardless of what you intended it to be, the matter remains that you did declare war on the Zurich treaty and Red Dawn as a result of your declaration of war against the English. Perhaps your military intelligence unit should be sacked for this oversight, or perhaps your foreign affairs team, or even, both?
[/quote]

IC: "We did what is right in our eyes. Let them attack us."

[Triyun]

OOC: You can't always get what you want.

IC: "Done."

[Justinian the Mighty]

"We will"

[Sargun II]

"Be careful what you wish for."

[Zoot Zoot]

Done.

[King Timmy]

*** Confidential ***

Upon receiving the orders to attack from The Republic of River and reaching the 1500 mile mark, all 48 B1 Lancers dropped to a low altitude and fired 8 supersonic cruise missiles each.

Their pre programmed destinations included factories, fuel depos, military bases, airstrips, weapon emplacements and nuclear weapon silos.