Centurius Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) [quote name='pezstar' timestamp='1295616665' post='2589065'] Just as an update here, I did speak to Cent. In fact, I'm speaking with him right now. He's assured me that, not only are you lying here and you didn't tell them in advance, Goldie went to them and discussed it after and admitted you made a mistake here. So way to straight up lie! [/quote] Eh that is taking it quite out of context, we were not informed by accident and actually got an apology. VE handled this very well actually. Edit: In addition I can understand how the notice would have been hard to give considering my Lord of Brotherhood was busy, my Chancellor off-line and I to sleep. Edited January 21, 2011 by Centurius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark XIII Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='pezstar' timestamp='1295616665' post='2589065'] Just as an update here, I did speak to Cent. In fact, I'm speaking with him right now. He's assured me that, not only are you lying here and you didn't tell them in advance, Goldie went to them and discussed it after and admitted you made a mistake here. So way to straight up lie! [/quote] [quote name='hertugen' timestamp='1295617762' post='2589076'] Ouch. Does it not hurt to always be wrong? And to be exposed as a liar again and again and again? [/quote] [quote name='Centurius' timestamp='1295623108' post='2589144'] Eh that is taking it quite out of context, we were not informed by accident and actually got an apology. VE handled this very well actually. Edit: In addition I can understand how the notice would have been hard to give considering my Lord of Brotherhood was busy, my Chancellor off-line and I to sleep. [/quote] Thank you for clearing that up Centurius, though I was amused at Impero being called a liar over "Have a chat with Cent." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaris Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Mark XIII' timestamp='1295624689' post='2589169'] Thank you for clearing that up Centurius, though I was amused at Impero being called a liar over "Have a chat with Cent." [/quote] It was pretty amusing. Perhaps she had a lapse of judgement due to lack of concentration, but luckily that's nothing if not curable with a hearty meal and a good night's sleep! I'm sure she will be back to her coherent self in no time. Edited January 21, 2011 by Solaris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
603Redneck Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='Centurius' timestamp='1295623108' post='2589144'] Eh that is taking it quite out of context, we were not informed by accident and actually got an apology. VE handled this very well actually. Edit: In addition I can understand how the notice would have been hard to give considering my Lord of Brotherhood was busy, my Chancellor off-line and I to sleep. [/quote] There were plenty of us online still....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan King Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 a brilliant yet totally asshat move. It's nice to see that you hold your mutual treaty partner with STA in such high regard that you'd attack one of their allies. And with that, the war does a zigzag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='Centurius' timestamp='1295623108' post='2589144'] Eh that is taking it quite out of context, we were not informed by accident and actually got an apology. VE handled this very well actually. Edit: In addition I can understand how the notice would have been hard to give considering my Lord of Brotherhood was busy, my Chancellor off-line and I to sleep. [/quote] At this point I'm basically convinced that pezstar's lying has become a pathos. It's a little concerning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix von Agnu Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='Duncan King' timestamp='1295628296' post='2589228'] a brilliant yet totally asshat move. It's nice to see that you hold your mutual treaty partner with STA in such high regard that you'd attack one of their allies. And with that, the war does a zigzag. [/quote] This has been done in the past during wars to limit counter declarations. It's nothing new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezstar Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='Felix von Agnu' timestamp='1295629257' post='2589244'] This has been done in the past during wars to limit counter declarations. It's nothing new. [/quote] It's very new to not discuss it with your ally first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) [quote name='BamaBuc' timestamp='1295617702' post='2589074'] If they don't have a choice of targets, that's one thing. If they have plenty of targets and happen to choose my ally (or worse, do it on purpose to try to get me to stay neutral), I don't think that's cool. To each his own though. -Bama [/quote] But, Bama, NV and TOOL are the enemy. [quote name='Bergerland' timestamp='1295596414' post='2588820'] You mean you didn't give your enemy advance warning of a potential attack? What a terrible alliance you are! For shame, VE! For shame. [/quote] Edited January 21, 2011 by Schattenmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan King Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='Felix von Agnu' timestamp='1295629257' post='2589244'] This has been done in the past during wars to limit counter declarations. It's nothing new. [/quote] That doesn't mean it's not an asshat move. And in my four years here, I can happily say that I never have done it nor will I ever condone it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix von Agnu Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1295629723' post='2589258'] But, Bama, NV and TOOL are the enemy. [/quote] That is completely missing the point. NV isn't the enemy, STA is. His point was that by telling NV, they would turn around and tell STA. I'm guessing you already knew that though, and couldn't pass up the chance to try and sound witty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Izuzu Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1295586264' post='2588159'] [color="#0000FF"]....It might surprise you, but VE is my least favorite alliance ever (you beat NPO guys!)...[/color][/quote] Another of our cherished stats taken away. This makes me unhappy. VE [quote name='Chief Savage Man' timestamp='1295602589' post='2588930'] Do you have any reason to believe or proof that VE hasn't maintained full and frank communication with NV during this entire conflict? I bet they have. [/quote] Yeah, just like it was true when they claimed that "RoK gave us the green light to attack Polar" [quote name='pezstar' timestamp='1295616665' post='2589065'] Just as an update here, I did speak to Cent. In fact, I'm speaking with him right now. He's assured me that, not only are you lying here and you didn't tell them in advance, Goldie went to them and discussed it after and admitted you made a mistake here. So way to straight up lie! [/quote] And, despite Cent's post forgiving you for not notifying NV in advance, the fact remains that you didn't do so. The lies just keep piling up for you, VE. Too bad that you can't develop a hidden lie silo to store them in. They must cause quite an eyesore in Viridia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezstar Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='Felix von Agnu' timestamp='1295630712' post='2589279'] That is completely missing the point. NV isn't the enemy, STA is. His point was that by telling NV, they would turn around and tell STA. I'm guessing you already knew that though, and couldn't pass up the chance to try and sound witty. [/quote] Actually, they wouldn't have told us. NV is a pretty awesome ally, and they get a pass on small infractions. NV would have simply said "We don't think it's Athens attacking you after all." and then apologized within moments of your declaration going up. And, because we've been in their crappy position before, with allies warring allies, we'd have told them that we understand completely and been ok with it. We have faith in them, you see. You should try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='pezstar' timestamp='1295631078' post='2589285'] We have faith in them, you see. You should try it. [/quote] Why bother with that old-fashioned !@#$ when you've got a brand new bloc and brand new friends? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix von Agnu Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='pezstar' timestamp='1295631078' post='2589285'] Actually, they wouldn't have told us. NV is a pretty awesome ally, and they get a pass on small infractions. NV would have simply said "We don't think it's Athens attacking you after all." and then apologized within moments of your declaration going up. And, because we've been in their crappy position before, with allies warring allies, we'd have told them that we understand completely and been ok with it. We have faith in them, you see. You should try it. [/quote] Ya'know, if you read Centurius' post, you would know it was an accident we didn't inform them. !@#$ happens, oh well. We apologized for the mistake, just like NV would have done. I see nothing that shows us not trusting them. That doesn't quite fit in with your rhetoric though, so go ahead and keep ignoring it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromp Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Blahblahblah... I am better then you... blahblahblah. Better stop the bickering, it's not necessary since nothing is going to change. You only make yourself look stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Apocalypse Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Voytek' timestamp='1295628816' post='2589236'] At this point I'm basically convinced that pezstar's lying has become a pathos. It's a little concerning. [/quote] But the Siberian Tiger Alliance is a group of the finest and honest leaders that Planet Bob has to offer! How could you suggest such a thing Voytek? For shame Edited January 21, 2011 by Johnny Apocalypse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Joe Izuzu' timestamp='1295630876' post='2589281']And, despite Cent's post forgiving you for not notifying NV in advance, the fact remains that you didn't do so. The lies just keep piling up for you, VE. Too bad that you can't develop a hidden lie silo to store them in. They must cause quite an eyesore in Viridia. [/quote] This is some of the most tortured rhetoric yet. Edited January 21, 2011 by Voytek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzelger Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='Voytek' timestamp='1295628816' post='2589236'] At this point I'm basically convinced that pezstar's lying has become a pathos.[/quote] I confess that your usage of the word pathos here confuses me. Does it have a slang meaning? Perhaps I just misunderstand what you're trying to say. On the issue at hand: if NV is content, then I am content. Let's settle our other issues with fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='bzelger' timestamp='1295632289' post='2589312']I confess that your usage of the word pathos here confuses me. Does it have a slang meaning? Perhaps I just misunderstand what you're trying to say.[/quote] It means I pity her. I don't think she could stop herself from doing it if she tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigrun Vapneir Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='Felix von Agnu' timestamp='1295630712' post='2589279'] That is completely missing the point. NV isn't the enemy, STA is. His point was that by telling NV, they would turn around and tell STA. I'm guessing you already knew that though, and couldn't pass up the chance to try and sound witty.[/quote] If you didnt intend to fulfil the words of the treaty, you shouldnt have signed the treaty. This is pretty basic stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manis B Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 i heard VE was pulling out C/D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark XIII Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='Manis B' timestamp='1295634086' post='2589343'] i heard VE was pulling out C/D? [/quote] The plan is to get some of our allies to preemptively strike some of your "side" that aren't involved yet and then peace out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argin Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 In all seriousness NV, completely sorry about this, I promise to yell at people for being dumb and failing to inform you guys, and I know this doesn't make up for it, but again really sorry. On to other matters, STA and IAA, please attack nation of Argoria for good time, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hob Dobson Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='pezstar' timestamp='1295631078' post='2589285'] Actually, they wouldn't have told us. NV is a pretty awesome ally, and they get a pass on small infractions. [/quote] Whether they would have informed STA, and if so, when, and to what extent, should have been Nueva Vida's call to make. [quote name='pezstar' timestamp='1295631078' post='2589285'] We have faith in them, you see. You should try it. [/quote] From what I gather, it was less a lack of faith in Nueva Vida's ability to find an equitable solution than a failure in our own ability to keep them informed. Whether by accident, time constraints, or missed connections, it's still regrettable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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