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Declaration of War from FOK!


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[quote name='President Obama' timestamp='1295377815' post='2581763']
http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=31042&st=0
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[color="#0000FF"]What exactly is your point? I never said that little coalition of yours, back then, was an example. Think back further, when people were willing to risk and remotely even war. Now days, unless you have sure 7:1 odds, there is no trying. Too risky otherwise.

And of course there's the blood money. You fellows sure like that, don't you?[/color]

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[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1295377572' post='2581755']
[color="#0000FF"]I'm just calling it how it is. People used to be able to go to war without having to activate every single treaty of theirs. Then again, people used to not be so cowardly around here.[/color]
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Two of PB still aren't rolling.

Also, people used to be able to go to war without rolling over and telling their allies not to assist.

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[quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1295378390' post='2581784']
Two of PB still aren't rolling.

Also, people used to be able to go to war without rolling over and telling their allies not to assist.
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[color="#0000FF"]Forgive the hyperbole. I forgot that some of you are a little dense around here.

As for your last point, some of those alliances still exist.[/color]

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[quote name='The Trail' timestamp='1295378305' post='2581778']
this doesnt make much sense, you had target lists of over 30 days old while this spying debacle is less then what was it? a week old? huh
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Yeah it's a bug though. ex-members keep showing up in the targets-lists, even after I removed them. Oh well not everything can go well. I think our blitz was solid overall.

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[quote name='Locke' timestamp='1295378614' post='2581792']
So, did VE, PC, and the other one really need the help? If what I heard about Polar's war machine in Bipolar was true, even an even fight would have been well more than enough for you.
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[color="#0000FF"]Blood money. They share in the loot together. FOK needs to at least put up a token fight in order to rightfully claim a few thousand units of that tech. People might be critical of them otherwise, and we wouldn't want that, would we?[/color]

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[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1295378720' post='2581794']
[color="#0000ff"]Blood money. They share in the loot together. FOK needs to at least put up a token fight in order to rightfully claim a few thousand units of that tech. People might be critical of them otherwise, and we wouldn't want that, would we?[/color]
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We all know you hate FOK. Just blatantly say that, don't comment on them for helping out their allies, when [i]everything[/i] they would have done, instead of attacking, would have been commented on in a negative way by you too.

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[quote name='Timmehhh' timestamp='1295378716' post='2581793']
Yeah it's a bug though. ex-members keep showing up in the targets-lists, even after I removed them. Oh well not everything can go well. I think our blitz was solid overall.
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so when did you guys make the plans to attack NpO?

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[quote name='The Trail' timestamp='1295378818' post='2581797']
so when did you guys make the plans to attack NpO?
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Any smart alliance would also make it a standard to compile target lists from alliances on the other side of the fence regularly. Lets say at least once a month.... This way you can roll asap when needed.

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[quote name='memoryproblems' timestamp='1295378902' post='2581800']
So despite their overwhelming odds in their favor, VE still felt the need to drag you in this early?

Classy on their part, classy on your part.

o/ Excessive Force
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What's this overwhelming odds crap, it was like 16m vs 20m. That's a pretty close battle in the first place.

Besides which, NpO was still being pretty sassy about not being that worried, so I'm assuming they're happy to get more of a challenge.

But thanks for fulfilling the prediction from a few pages prior about how people will complain that wars are supposed to be fair. It's like clockwork around here.

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[quote name='erikz' timestamp='1295378971' post='2581802']
Any smart alliance would also make it a standard to compile target lists from alliances on the other side of the fence regularly. Lets say at least once a month.... This way you can roll asap when needed.
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seems kinda odd to me but whatever. It doesnt really matter to me if you guys were wanting to hit NpO for whatever reason possible (my reason on why I dont care should be quite clear) Anyways Go get em tigers.

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[quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1295376302' post='2581685']
FOK is saving it's Vassal State!
Overkill booooo
NOT FAIR, Can't you do it with just VE, iFOK and PC COWARDSSSS

This is how I predict the topic will evolve.
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You would be correct. After all everyone keeps complaining about how boring and stagnant the political spectrum has been and how few wars there have been. Yet there is little reason to go to war if they always turn into this, wherein a somewhat fair and balanced fight (1.5x to 1 NS and Nation count) is ruined by some unnecessary bandwagoning such as this.

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[quote name='erikz' timestamp='1295378971' post='2581802']
Any smart alliance would also make it a standard to compile target lists from alliances on the other side of the fence regularly. Lets say at least once a month.... This way you can roll asap when needed.
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Any 'smart' AA would also get their nations to double check before causing a PR disaster no matter how small. But I guess FOK is scared of NpO's allies and feels the need to war on alliances who arent currently involved so have an ounce of a chance if NpO's allies do show up

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[quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1295376302' post='2581685']
FOK is saving it's Vassal State!
Overkill booooo
NOT FAIR, Can't you do it with just VE, iFOK and PC COWARDSSSS

This is how I predict the topic will evolve.
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Sounds more like a guilty conscience than a prediction. :v:

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[quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1295379281' post='2581808']What's this overwhelming odds crap, it was like 16m vs 20m. That's a pretty close battle in the first place.[/quote]
Mixing Orders up.

NPO has 16.6mil, NpO has 12.2mil. I have seen this mentioned couple of times, so wanted to correct.

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[quote name='The Trail' timestamp='1295378818' post='2581797']
so when did you guys make the plans to attack NpO?
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Yesterday, after VE presented us their issues with Polar. We have a program which automatically makes lists but it's sometimes keeps tracks of old members so you have to remove them, which apparently hasn't been done with this one nation. We will handle this with UINE gov.

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