Alterego Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1295712020' post='2591973'] Uh, sure ... we started the war, of course we are Alterego, you're running around all the threads still trying to claim that we 'ran' Lennox, even though he's clearly shown he's a free agent, and it was ridiculous even before then. Please go away. [/quote] You do know what running a spy means dont you. You fed him screen shots and gave him orders and offered him protection for his work. Edited January 22, 2011 by Alterego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Man, what is with you people? Idiot juice on your cornflakes? We did not 'hire', 'run', employ, commission or anything like that Lennox. What we did do was run a sting operation to conclusively prove Dajobo's involvement – but only after all the logs in the OP here had happened and been given to us, which showed that involvement pretty clearly. Lennox is a free agent (and a loose cannon) who got instructions to spy on an alliance upon whom it was 'worthwhile' (MK or VE) and then sold out his spymaster. [quote]it was debated elsewhere that spying is an aggression and thus VE is only defending itself. [/quote] Well, this is debated every war. Don't take my position as the official VE one, but personally I've always been of the view that whoever starts the war is the aggressor. A good CB (like this one) means that you're [i]justified[/i] in that aggression should you choose to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Corinan' timestamp='1295712477' post='2591987'] Also when you consider the fact that it's now come to light that VE hired Lennox to do the spying, well yeah that pretty much makes them the aggressor at that point. [/quote] This is exactly what happened. Please attack us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilkenny Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1295712020' post='2591973'] Uh, sure ... we started the war, of course we are Alterego, you're running around all the threads still trying to claim that we 'ran' Lennox, even though he's clearly shown he's a free agent, and it was ridiculous even before then. Please go away. [/quote] Ok, which is it?? Is lennox a free agent, or run by Dajobo, or run by Impero?? You yourself have stated he was run by Dajobo and now say he is a free agent trying to start something. If that is the case, and by Lennox's own admission he is, then yall look even more foolish for following his lead into a BS CB. Although I will admit it seems that yall weren't so much following as racing alongside him, pointing him in the right direction to go. Sorry, but this is even worse than what NPO did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin32891 Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Penkala' timestamp='1295713090' post='2591999'] This is exactly what happened. Please attack us? [/quote] Why do we have to do the work for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1295713009' post='2591997'] Man, what is with you people? Idiot juice on your cornflakes? [b]We did not 'hire', 'run', employ, commission or anything like that[/b] Lennox. [b]What we did do was run a sting operation[/b] [/quote] Using Lennox the spy and screenshots you gave to him with orders to give them to Polar. Edited January 22, 2011 by Alterego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Ryan Greenberg' timestamp='1295652999' post='2589715'] They've yet to aknowledge this yet and I doubt they will. I could be proven wrong from a Viridian, so please tell me why you have aided a nation who spied on you? [/quote] Tech deal perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin32891 Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1295713009' post='2591997'] Man, what is with you people? Idiot juice on your cornflakes? We did not 'hire', 'run', employ, commission or anything like that Lennox. What we did do was run a sting operation to conclusively prove Dajobo's involvement – but only after all the logs in the OP here had happened and been given to us, which showed that involvement pretty clearly. Lennox is a free agent (and a loose cannon) who got instructions to spy on an alliance upon whom it was 'worthwhile' (MK or VE) and then sold out his spymaster. Well, this is debated every war. Don't take my position as the official VE one, but personally I've always been of the view that whoever starts the war is the aggressor. A good CB (like this one) means that you're [i]justified[/i] in that aggression should you choose to do it. [/quote] Oh so it is an aggressive war on your part. And now Lennox is a free agent, you should definitely tell Impero about this new discovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote]Ok, which is it?? Is lennox a free agent, or run by Dajobo, or run by Impero?? You yourself have stated he was run by Dajobo and now say he is a free agent trying to start something.[/quote] Dajobo was the one who worked with him and told him to go spy on VE or MK. I think it's a stretch to say that he was 'run' by Dajobo though since he clearly didn't just do what Dajobo wanted him to. So he was a free agent trying to stir up trouble, but that doesn't invalidate the fact that Dajobo was working with him to spy on VE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1295713009' post='2591997'] Man, what is with you people? Idiot juice on your cornflakes? We did not 'hire', 'run', employ, commission or anything like that Lennox. What we did do was run a sting operation to conclusively prove Dajobo's involvement [/quote] So - you did or you didn't use (employ, run, hire - they all mean the exact same here) Lennox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rebel Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1295713532' post='2592010'] Dajobo was the one who worked with him and told him to go spy on VE or MK. I think it's a stretch to say that he was 'run' by Dajobo though since he clearly didn't just do what Dajobo wanted him to. So he was a free agent trying to stir up trouble, but that doesn't invalidate the fact that Dajobo was working with him to spy on VE. [/quote] Neither does it invalidate, Impero the leader of VE giving Lennox screenshots of classified warchest info. Impero is more the spy than lennox consider Impero did all the work for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1295713532' post='2592010'] I think it's a stretch to say that he was 'run' by Dajobo [/quote] Thats the first honest thing you've said all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ashton Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Penkala' timestamp='1295713090' post='2591999'] This is exactly what happened. Please attack us? [/quote] Yeah Penkala, the fighter for "[i]justice",[/i] who is making 15 topics a day due to "subjective unfair treatment", is now part of the big guy and suddenly acting ignorant. Oh lord, there is a reason no one likes you. And trust me, you'll get your ass handed to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark XIII Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1295713266' post='2592003'] Using Lennox the spy and screenshots you gave to him with orders to give them to Polar. [/quote] I suppose it makes your case easier when you just look at a subset of the events that occurred. Before Lennox ever spoke with Impero he went to Dajobo and Dajobo directed him to us, which was when Lennox told of us this. As you can see in the logs posted in one of the other topics, that was not enough for us to believe that such a high ranking official in NpO would advise and accept information from the spy. So we gave him some information to get to the bottom of it, and what was Dajobo's response? I can't see the screenshots, re-upload them. But you can continue regurgitating your fictional opinion, I don't really mind enough to keep posting on the OWF. As for those of you who say Dajobo only trusted a friend, trusted a friend to do what, be a good spy? That he would get some good information from him? Obviously he trusted him not to reveal their communications, but that's obvious since he didn't tell us about it until he found out we knew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Mark XIII' timestamp='1295716046' post='2592050'] I suppose it makes your case easier when you just look at a subset of the events that occurred. Before Lennox ever spoke with Impero he went to Dajobo and Dajobo directed him to us, which was when Lennox told of us this. As you can see in the logs posted in one of the other topics, that was not enough for us to believe that such a high ranking official in NpO would advise and accept information from the spy. So we gave him some information to get to the bottom of it, and what was Dajobo's response? I can't see the screenshots, re-upload them. But you can continue regurgitating your fictional opinion, I don't really mind enough to keep posting on the OWF. As for those of you who say Dajobo only trusted a friend, trusted a friend to do what, be a good spy? That he would get some good information from him? Obviously he trusted him not to reveal their communications, but that's obvious since he didn't tell us about it until he found out we knew. [/quote] The snipped logs (by the mods) posted by Impero himself showed he talked to, identified and bypassed the academy with Lennox before Lennox spoke with Dajobo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crawlerbot Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 I personally don't care what VE has for a reason for war. VE and BRIG have had, lets just say, an "interesting" past. We argue over b.s. a lot, but truth is we share the same roots. Also, this game has been so freaking boring lately, thank god we are getting some action. So thanks for the action Viridia, I think you're pretty hot! o/ VE o/ BRIG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark XIII Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Rayvon' timestamp='1295716455' post='2592056'] The snipped logs (by the mods) posted by Impero himself showed he talked to, identified and bypassed the academy with Lennox before Lennox spoke with Dajobo. [/quote] I'm not sure and too lazy to go check but Lennox would have had a nation by that point(bypassing the academy), and Dajobo picked his nation/ruler name, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rebel Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Mark XIII' timestamp='1295716046' post='2592050'] I suppose it makes your case easier when you just look at a subset of the events that occurred. Before Lennox ever spoke with Impero he went to Dajobo and Dajobo directed him to us, which was when Lennox told of us this. As you can see in the logs posted in one of the other topics, that was not enough for us to believe that such a high ranking official in NpO would advise and accept information from the spy. [b]So we gave him some information to get to the bottom of it, and what was Dajobo's response? I can't see the screenshots, re-upload them. [/b] [/quote] Im glad most alliances dont give out their members warchest info, to any Tom, Richard or Harry.... Bravo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragashingo Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1295713532' post='2592010'] Dajobo was the one who worked with him and told him to go spy on VE or MK. I think it's a stretch to say that he was 'run' by Dajobo though since he clearly didn't just do what Dajobo wanted him to. So he was a free agent trying to stir up trouble, but that doesn't invalidate the fact that Dajobo was working with him to spy on VE. [/quote] "Worked with" is a stretch as well. In the end this is all an argument of intent, and it seems very clear that Dajobo's intent was never to even have Lennox spy in the first place. And after the spying occurred did Dajobo sit on the information, or request more? No. He [i]tried[/i] to report it. The best you got here is you caught someone making a dumb mistake before taking the correct course of action. You did not catch a spy, or an attempted spy ring, or a government leader "working with" anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaris Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Rayvon' timestamp='1295716455' post='2592056'] The snipped logs (by the mods) posted by Impero himself showed he talked to, identified and bypassed the academy with Lennox before Lennox spoke with Dajobo. [/quote] Hahahahahahaha, yeeeeeeeeah, Dajobo told Lennox to choose nation and ruler name [i]retroatctively.[/i] You have a lot to learn about the nature of timespace, my dear friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Salovega VI Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 [quote name='Rayvon' timestamp='1295716455' post='2592056'] The snipped logs (by the mods) posted by Impero himself showed he talked to, identified and bypassed the academy with Lennox before Lennox spoke with Dajobo. [/quote] Ray, Allow me help you out with a few key quotes to show you just how abysimally lacking in logic your statement was. [quote]20:19 Chancy I have some very valuable information regarding MK's future intentions if you would like to receive a screenshot 20:20 Dajobo|NpO| obviously I would love to see it but I cant condone spying 20:21 Dajobo|NpO| so I will need to decline 20:21 Dajobo|NpO| If you'd like to leak the info without being busted may I suggest CNTel 20:22 Chancy Just f[color="#8B0000"][CENSORED][/color]ng with you its Lennox 20:22 Dajobo|NpO| haha ... 20:33 Chancy I should spy on MHA 20:33 Chancy Just to make them mad 20:33 Dajobo|NpO| nah they aren't the enemy 20:34 Dajobo|NpO| pick domeone worth spying on 20:35 Chancy Give me suggestions 20:36 Dajobo|NpO| VE or MK are the two who are heavily involved in world politics 20:36 Dajobo|NpO| anything that happens will come through them first ... 20:47 Chancy ok you have to pick my nation name and ruler name 20:47 Chancy because my creativeness is absent 20:48 Dajobo|NpO| Rattlin Bones 20:48 Chancy lol 20:48 Dajobo|NpO| Coffin City 20:48 Chancy fair enough 20:48 Dajobo|NpO| no 20:48 Chancy ok 20:49 Dajobo|NpO| nation name Cemetery Lot 37 20:49 Chancy lol any significance behind that name 20:50 Dajobo|NpO| You could have a ton of fun with that theme 20:50 Dajobo|NpO| no reason 20:50 Chancy oh ok 20:50 Dajobo|NpO| they played the song Rattlin Bones on the radio this morning 20:50 Chancy haha 20:50 Dajobo|NpO| our flag used to be custom 37 ... 21:04 Chancy ok so ve? or mk? or should i see what recruitment messages i get 21:05 Dajobo|NpO| seeing what yuo get for a day could be fun 21:05 Dajobo|NpO| also looks a heap less suspect if you join from a message 21:06 Chancy nah ill just say i was a member of some disbanded alliance 21:07 Dajobo|NpO| haha 21:07 Dajobo|NpO| sneaky[/quote] For your statement above to be true, Lennox would have needed to look into the future to see what Dajobo would choose for Lennox' new nation and ruler names (to include the former flag numeric and song title played on Dajobos radio) plus the target alliance to be spied upon. [IMG]http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r160/qinqe/CN%20Graphics/AS6TheRayvon.png[/IMG] I have decided that such an epic-self-wedgie-fail deserves to have an award with a prestigious name. I have created one in your honor and therefore it shall henceforth and forever more be known as "THE RAYVON". Please consider this the initial award. I and possibly others shall examine your posts and make sure that your future gaffs are so graced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 [quote name='Antonio Salovega VI' timestamp='1295780655' post='2593783'] [IMG]http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r160/qinqe/CN%20Graphics/AS6TheRayvon.png[/IMG] I have decided that such an epic-self-wedgie-fail deserves to have an award with a prestigious name. I have created one in your honor and therefore it shall henceforth and forever more be known as "THE RAYVON". Please consider this the initial award. I and possibly others shall examine your posts and make sure that your future gaffs are so graced. [/quote] 4 years and I finally get my very own Antonio original. I'm honoured, thanks buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Glaucon Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1295713532' post='2592010'] Dajobo was the one who worked with him and told him to go spy on VE or MK. I think it's a stretch to say that he was 'run' by Dajobo though since he clearly didn't just do what Dajobo wanted him to. So he was a free agent trying to stir up trouble, but that doesn't invalidate the fact that Dajobo was working with him to spy on VE. [/quote] It's not clear that Dajobo *wanted* him to do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaric Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 where's lennox hiding lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 He's in the great 26th day of inactivity in the sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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