Haflinger Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Well, that's interesting. Fair terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Gamemaster1' timestamp='1293601376' post='2557024'] Different alliances treat rogues differently. Few weeks of war? ZI? Possible peace terms? No peace terms? [/quote] Those who break the terms will just have to wait and find out. It's really not that difficult to comprehend: If you break the terms, you're going to get messed up. Badly. [quote]As for the reps being lenient, If they weren’t smack bang in the middle of the hegemony web this would be 80k tech. Imposing the same reps they have been handing out for the last two years to one of their own could cause a split in the hegemony and they cant have that. They will just add the reps they couldn’t demand on to the next surrendering non hegemony alliance they fight.[/quote] Please point to the outrageous reps demanded by alliances like Int and Fark in the past. Edited December 29, 2010 by Penkala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 [quote name='Penkala' timestamp='1293604560' post='2557098'] Please point to the outrageous reps demanded by alliances like Int and Fark in the past. [/quote] All members of Hegemony get tarred by the same brush no matter how small and loosely connected. They will also be called Hegemony, ex-Hegemony and remnants of Hegemony years after they cease to be Hegemony. Karma speak 101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 [quote name='Penkala' timestamp='1293604560' post='2557098'] Please point to the outrageous reps demanded by alliances like Int and Fark in the past. [/quote] Penky, you've gone ahead and criticized Invicta for supporting outrageous reps, and I've used this exact counterargument against you. Hypocrite much? Still, these are fair terms, and primarily it's because of who the reps are to be paid to, something Alterego's ignoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateDogg Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 [quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1293603405' post='2557069'] As for the reps being lenient, If they weren’t smack bang in the middle of the hegemony web this would be 80k tech. Imposing the same reps they have been handing out for the last two years to one of their own could cause a split in the hegemony and they cant have that. They will just add the reps they couldn’t demand on to the next surrendering non hegemony alliance they fight. [/quote] I wont speak for INT and TPE as i dont know their past as well, but our monetary exchanges as a result of war were 10k tech to Fark paid for at a rate of $3 million per 150 tech, as well as a beer review in shortbus from iron and amilk review from NSO. Farkistan consider the IRON nations’ hospitality during this conflict payment enough and request no additional repartitions was in karma from IRON. FARK took 5,000 technology from Polar in WoTC. Illuminati had to sell tech at the price of $900,000 for 50 tech to us 6 times in the Illuminati War. anyway, good to see this happen and good fighting with ya to my friends in INT and TPE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathcat Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Congrats on peace NEW... Glad your nations had fun getting irradiated and all.. Casualty harvest seems to have been a boon this war oo/ NEW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Scipio Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 (edited) Are the nations that joined Fark to fight under the same terms, or can NEW consider them rogues if they go back to their original alliances? Edited December 29, 2010 by General Scipio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnish Commie Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 [quote name='General Scipio' timestamp='1293607219' post='2557127'] Are the nations that joined Fark to fight under the same terms, or can NEW consider them rogues if they go back to their original alliances? [/quote] I don't think NEW is in any position to make terms for this peace mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Scipio Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 [quote name='Finnish Commie' timestamp='1293607304' post='2557128'] I don't think NEW is in any position to make terms for this peace mate [/quote] Ah I see, nations that join alliances in wartime are rogues, but only if they aren't on your side. Thanks for the clarification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnish Commie Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 [quote name='General Scipio' timestamp='1293607383' post='2557129'] Ah I see, nations that join alliances in wartime are rogues, but only if they aren't on your side. Thanks for the clarification. [/quote] Well fighting fire with fire and all. Of course if you would had rather seen those guys really treated as rogues... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Craig Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 [quote name='General Scipio' timestamp='1293607383' post='2557129'] Ah I see, nations that join alliances in wartime are rogues, but only if they aren't on your side. Thanks for the clarification. [/quote] I have a very relevant quote about false moral equivalency in my signature. -Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Scipio Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 [quote name='Finnish Commie' timestamp='1293607712' post='2557130'] Well fighting fire with fire and all. Of course if you would had rather seen those guys really treated as rogues... [/quote] Honestly, I really don't care, I just think it would be interesting to see NEW attack the Creole nations that go back and call them rogues. I mean, you guys basically said that if nations do that their rogues, so I think it would be interesting to see the arguments for defending them. Maybe start another war right after this. I'd like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnish Commie Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 [quote name='General Scipio' timestamp='1293608183' post='2557135'] Honestly, I really don't care, I just think it would be interesting to see NEW attack the Creole nations that go back and call them rogues. I mean, you guys basically said that if nations do that their rogues, so I think it would be interesting to see the arguments for defending them. Maybe start another war right after this. I'd like that. [/quote] I am fairly certain if NEW went attacking those guys they'd have a new war in their hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emphix Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 congrats for peace o/ Fark, TPE, Int, for being very very big hearted, especially after all the uncooperativeness in early peace talks. Those wishing for global wars will be very disappointed that's for sure. and special shoutout for Umbrella, for all their helps in facilitating the peace talks. Cheers to you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangbaik Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 [quote name='Finnish Commie' timestamp='1293608413' post='2557138'] I am fairly certain if NEW went attacking those guys they'd have a new war in their hands [/quote] Just make sure this time uno vs uno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrnea Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 [quote name='orangbaik' timestamp='1293609170' post='2557142']Just make sure this time uno vs uno[/quote] To be fair, it was NEW's side who had people join up from PC and iFOK before any real numbers started trickling into INT's side in this fashion. But don't let that get in the way of your daily peanut gallery whining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canik Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Congratulations on achieving peace, NEW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Curzon Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Glad to see this conflict come to a relatively swift conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 No apology from NEW. Was this negotiated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkfox Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 [quote name='Banksy' timestamp='1293611504' post='2557174'] No apology from NEW. Was this negotiated? [/quote] I believe we all agreed to meet halfway to ensure a more timely peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthey Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 (edited) 20 slots of aid, Unacceptable terms, I am disgusted Fark. Though an apology from new was called for, should have gotten that. Edited December 29, 2010 by iamthey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marx the Great Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 [quote name='Finnish Commie' timestamp='1293598899' post='2556940'] The membership of the International has done what it promised before this war and succesfully defended its friends and former allies in Dark Fist against unwarranted aggression. Now it is time for peace once more. I would like to thank Fark and TPE who cooperated with us in the war against NEW and ODN who fought by our side against the attack's of NEW's allies. I would also like to thank the numerous allies of ours who offered their to us aid in this war. [/quote] Grammar check for the loss! It's an official announcement. Try to make it look like one next time. Also, congrats on a speedy cease fire. Glad to see nobody that didn't really want to join was forced into a ridiculous war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Congrats on peace, NEW Good luck on rebuilding, hope you do some serious thinking about who your allies are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Meeel Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 I like this, next time we'll make sure no one will interrupting. [quote name='Finnish Commie' timestamp='1293608413' post='2557138'] I am fairly certain if NEW went attacking those guys they'd have a new war in their hands [/quote] I'll make sure that NEW is alone when raid gone good comes one more time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emphix Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 [quote name='Banksy' timestamp='1293611504' post='2557174'] No apology from NEW. Was this negotiated? [/quote] Given the careful wordings of the terms, I think it's safe to surmise that that is the case. An already lenient terms need to be watered down even further. But alas, peace is peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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