'Antarctica for the World' Movement

[Saarkin Cor]

*World Wide transmission to the nations beyond Antarctica*

[center]This is the government of Vaahrok inviting the world to join in on the Antarctica for the World Movement. We invite every nation to found their own region of Antarctica and fill the empty ice wastes with research, business, and society. Maps of available land, guides, long term survival training, and start up materials for interested nations are available upon request. We believe in Antarctica becoming a multicultural continent in the spirit of stopping aggressive predations by other nations. Some of you may have seen the recent request by Tiministan to sterilize the continent of foreign powers. Do not believe that they will allow any nation to keep any of their former rights, and seek only to insult and terrorize your helpless Antarctic regions. One needs only to look at the decimated nation of Aeardraug. No Aeardraugian citizen has ever been seen or known to have came back out from that nation after Tiministan forces entered using extreme force.

If you to believe in a multicultural Antarctica, Support Vaahrok, and claim your piece of the World's Continent.[/center]

[Fizzydog]

Labrador has sent a Labradorian spokeswoman, Kate Pavelc. We are interested in establishing a research base in Antarctica.

[Lestari]

This is little more than prostituting Antarctica out to other nations. This does not solve the problem of Tiministan in the least.

[Justinian the Mighty]

We believe the former Soviet stations of Mirnyy and Vostok are located in or near Vaahrok. These are places we're interested in discussing.

[PresidentDavid]

The Union of Island Nations is interested and is sending a spokesman.

[King Timmy]

[quote name='Saarkin Cor' timestamp='1290285579' post='2518366']
*World Wide transmission to the nations beyond Antarctica*

[center]This is the government of Vaahrok inviting the world to join in on the Antarctica for the World Movement. We invite every nation to found their own region of Antarctica and fill the empty ice wastes with research, business, and society. Maps of available land, guides, long term survival training, and start up materials for interested nations are available upon request. We believe in Antarctica becoming a multicultural continent in the spirit of stopping aggressive predations by other nations. Some of you may have seen the recent request by Tiministan to sterilize the continent of foreign powers. Do not believe that they will allow any nation to keep any of their former rights, and seek only to insult and terrorize your helpless Antarctic regions. One needs only to look at the decimated nation of Aeardraug. No Aeardraugian citizen has ever been seen or known to have came back out from that nation after Tiministan forces entered using extreme force.

If you to believe in a multicultural Antarctica, Support Vaahrok, and claim your piece of the World's Continent.[/center]
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The nation of Vaahrok would do well to hold it's tongue on such sensitive matters. We consider it a great insult that you insinuate we were involved in any way in the mass genocide that occurred before we entered the nation of Aerderung. Should you like to send your own team to examine the extensive amount of bodies we have placed in individual graves very sensitively keeping to the Aerderung burial tradition, you are more than welcome inspect the remaining bodies and see for yourself they were long dead before Tiministan intervened and saved what remaining people there was. It should also be noted the Tiministan has no problem with nations setting up whatever research facilities they require, what we do have a problem with is nations that have no previous ties to Antarctica all of a sudden claiming sovereignty in the continent claiming preposterous reasons, something any true Antarctican should be against.

It seems the nation of Vaahrok's ego is writing cheques it's body cannot cash and should it continue to do so you may leave nations with very few choices of actions.

[Justinian the Mighty]

Tiministan is writing a few checks of it’s own. Let us hope for your sake that they do not bounce.

[Saarkin Cor]

[quote]The nation of Vaahrok would do well to hold it's tongue on such sensitive matters. We consider it a great insult that you insinuate we were involved in any way in the mass genocide that occurred before we entered the nation of Aerderung. Should you like to send your own team to examine the extensive amount of bodies we have placed in individual graves very sensitively keeping to the Aerderung burial tradition, you are more than welcome inspect the remaining bodies and see for yourself they were long dead before Tiministan intervened and saved what remaining people there was. It should also be noted the Tiministan has no problem with nations setting up whatever research facilities they require, what we do have a problem with is nations that have no previous ties to Antarctica all of a sudden claiming sovereignty in the continent claiming preposterous reasons, something any true Antarctican should be against.

It seems the nation of Vaahrok's ego is writing cheques it's body cannot cash and should it continue to do so you may leave nations with very few choices of actions.[/quote]

We never made any claims that mass genocide occured. We noted the large military force invading Aerderung, and the complete ceasing of any contact with Aerderung citizens. No accusations of genocide were brought against Tiministan. We believed that Tiministan government had forbade all travel out of, and external communication, of the nation of Aerderung. A totalitarian and power hungry control move by invading forces. If Tiministan's government has such a feeling of guilt to admit that a mass genocide had occurred then it is themselves they should be looking at for accusers.

As Tiministan has raised the issue. How do they explain the entire murder of millions 'before' their well armed, and aggressive, military might entered an antarctic nation that contained people familiar with how Antarctica operated.


[quote]The Union of Island Nations is interested and is sending a spokesman.[/quote]

We will gladly recieve your spokesman. Coordinates have been sent for landing at the Vaahrok Island airfield.

[quote]Labrador has sent a Labradorian spokeswoman, Kate Pavelc. We are interested in establishing a research base in Antarctica.[/quote]

We would gladly help find a suitable location, and provide start up workers, to set up a research base for Labrador. Coordinates for the Vaahrok Island airfield are being sent.

[quote]We believe the former Soviet stations of Mirnyy and Vostok are located in or near Vaahrok. These are places we're interested in discussing.[/quote]

Both of these old stations are known to us, and exist just outside of the borders of the nation. We can give locations and guides to the old stations.

[Ezequiel]

'España highly supports Vaahrok's actions. Keeping the world down from violence and anarchy while gaining research is never a bad thing. How could you commit genocide on such innocent people Tiministan?'

[i]Ezequiel José[/i]

Edited November 21, 2010 by Ezequiel

[King Timmy]

[quote name='Saarkin Cor' timestamp='1290302810' post='2518611']
We never made any claims that mass genocide occured. We noted the large military force invading Aerderung, and the complete ceasing of any contact with Aerderung citizens. No accusations of genocide were brought against Tiministan. We believed that Tiministan government had forbade all travel out of, and external communication, of the nation of Aerderung. A totalitarian and power hungry control move by invading forces. If Tiministan's government has such a feeling of guilt to admit that a mass genocide had occurred then it is themselves they should be looking at for accusers.

As Tiministan has raised the issue. How do they explain the entire murder of millions 'before' their well armed, and aggressive, military might entered an antarctic nation that contained people familiar with how Antarctica operated.
[/quote]

Do you take us for children you can simply goad into making a mistake? We have not forbade any such thing as traveling or communications from the former nation of Aerderung, and we think it is ridiculous that you would assume we did. And we have nothing to explain, we acted to attempt to save a nation which was already lost while you did not. We simply assumed that a nation with such proximity to the former nation of Aerderung would know of what happened there, all the more reason for us to suspect you have no care for any nation but yourself.

As to how they died, we can only assume their former government collapsed, creating anarchy across the nation. It is probable that a civil war might have ensued, but we are unsure as to what triggered this inhumane act. It is still difficult to talk about as I am sure you would understand. There are survivors of course, but they are in no state of mind to answer anything and we will not ask them to until they are ready and until they are we will not know exactly what happened.

Edited November 21, 2010 by King Timmy

[Saarkin Cor]

[quote]
We simply assumed that a nation with such proximity to the former nation of Aerderung would know of what happened there, all the more reason for us to expect you have no care for any nation but yourself.
[/quote]

We recieved no communication from Timinstan regarding information about Aerderung, or about anything, until today. We cannot be blamed for not sending information when we were never asked for anything.

[quote]
As to how they died, we can only assume their former government collapsed, creating anarchy across the nation. It is probable that a civil war might have ensued, but we are unsure as to what triggered this inhumane act. It is still difficult to talk about as I am sure you would understand. There are survivors of course, but they are in no state of mind to answer anything and we will not ask them to until they are ready and until they are we will not know exactly what happened.
[/quote]

A nation familiar with how to live in Antarctica fell into chaos and disorder, gave up their basic burial and human rights, murdered each other, and all without a single cry of help to the outside world. The "survivors" no doubt in Timinstan control.


There were a lot of assumptions made by Tiministan regarding Aerderung. Vaahrok hopes they do not make the same assumptions about any other nations in the future.

[Saarkin Cor]

edit: double post

Edited November 21, 2010 by Saarkin Cor

[King Timmy]

[quote name='Saarkin Cor' timestamp='1290303835' post='2518619']
We recieved no communication from Timinstan regarding information about Aerderung, or about anything, until today. We cannot be blamed for not sending information when we were never asked for anything.



A nation familiar with how to live in Antarctica fell into chaos and disorder, gave up their basic burial and human rights, murdered each other, and all without a single cry of help to the outside world. The "survivors" no doubt in Timinstan control.


There were a lot of assumptions made by Tiministan regarding Aerderung. Vaahrok hopes they do not make the same assumptions about any other nations in the future.
[/quote]

As I said there was no block on any communications.

Yes there are assumptions, but when you are unsure about what happened, what can you do but assume?

And yes the survivors are in Tiministan "control" as you put it, and I do not appreciate the way you used quotations regarding to them. It shows a certain lack of respect for people who have lost so much.

Edited November 21, 2010 by King Timmy

[Saarkin Cor]

[quote name='King Timmy' timestamp='1290304301' post='2518630']
As I said there was no block on any communications.
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We never said communications were blocked. Just that no communications were sent to us from Tiministan looking for information. Were communications with Aerderung blocked from leaving the nation? If so it would go far in explaining how no one has heard anything out of what is now a dead land.

[quote name='King Timmy' timestamp='1290304301' post='2518630']
Yes there are assumptions, but when you are unsure about what happened, what can you do but assume?
[/quote]

A full scale invasion is how you check on what is the matter with a fellow antarctic nation? No recon. No diplomatic talks. No intelligence gathering. Straight to full scale invasion. Then all of the people apparently are dead.

[quote name='King Timmy' timestamp='1290304301' post='2518630']
And yes the survivors are in Tiministan "control" as you put it, and I do not appreciate the way you used quotations regarding to them. It shows a certain lack of respect for people who have lost so much.
[/quote]

With how you are handling your first act of diplomacy with not just us, but much of the world, we can only hope the 'survivors' are safe and actually from Aerderung.

[King Timmy]

[quote name='Saarkin Cor' timestamp='1290303835' post='2518619']
We recieved no communication from Timinstan regarding information about Aerderung, or about anything, until today. We cannot be blamed for not sending information when we were never asked for anything.
[/quote]

[quote name='Saarkin Cor' timestamp='1290304774' post='2518642']
We never said communications were blocked. Just that no communications were sent to us from Tiministan looking for information. Were communications with Aerderung blocked from leaving the nation? If so it would go far in explaining how no one has heard anything out of what is now a dead land.


A full scale invasion is how you check on what is the matter with a fellow antarctic nation? No recon. No diplomatic talks. No intelligence gathering. Straight to full scale invasion. Then all of the people apparently are dead.


With how you are handling your first act of diplomacy with not just us, but much of the world, we can only hope the 'survivors' are safe and actually from Aerderung.
[/quote]

You too are quite good at making assumptions it would seem and also unintelligible to boot. Above you said you cannot be blamed for not sending information when we were never asked for anything. We did not ask you for any information, we were clearly stating that due to your proximity to Aerderung and due the the fact your assumption that we had forbade communications was wrong, we felt you might simply have heard what happened.

We did in fact gather intelligence before moving into Aerderung. Once we found out their government had dissolved and their nation gone into anarchy we tried to communicate with them but got no response. This prompted us to move a military force into the area as soon as possible. We were however already responding to another nation who had gone into anarchy and requested our help and we were clearly too late.

Again, you have as much compassion as a brick wall when referring to the survivors who are being treated well in a most hospitable environment. You are more than welcome to send people to check up on them any time.

And yes this is our first act of diplomacy with you, and most likely our last. You seem to know how to ask only questions that attempt to put people into awkward positions and we do not like it one bit.

[Saarkin Cor]

[quote]you too are quite good at making assumptions it would seem and also unintelligible to boot. Above you said you cannot be blamed for not sending information when we were never asked for anything. We did not ask you for any information, we were clearly stating that due to your proximity to Aerderung and due the the fact your assumption that we had forbade communications was wrong, we felt you might simply have heard what happened.[/quote]

We thought we knew what happened. An expansionist imperial power invaded our neighbor AerDerung causing the complete cessation of any contact with their entire population. We had hoped it was simply a totalitarian government that was showing harsh control over its conquered subjects, but it appears even this bleak idea was to much to believe in. Without any communications to explain what was occurring, and without any way to see what was happening before, during, or after the Tiministan invasion, we put it down as a hostile and controlling take over.

[quote]We did in fact gather intelligence before moving into Aerderung. Once we found out their government had dissolved and their nation gone into anarchy we tried to communicate with them but got no response. This prompted us to move a military force into the area as soon as possible. We were however already responding to another nation who had gone into anarchy and requested our help and we were clearly too late.[/quote]

We noted how aggressively you have expanded yourself in recent events, and this fed our understanding and belief of your nation as one ruled with an iron fist with very little in the way of rights to its population.

[quote]Again, you have as much compassion as a brick wall when referring to the survivors who are being treated well in a most hospitable environment. You are more than welcome to send people to check up on them any time.[/quote]

We wouldn't dare endanger a single citizen of Vaahrok, to check on claims of survivors, with the actions your govnerment has displayed. We have every right to be incredulous to claims of survivors just happening to materialize when Tiministan needs them to after genocide is suddenly, and unexpectedly revealed.

[quote]And yes this is our first act of diplomacy with you, and most likely our last. You seem to know how to ask only questions that attempt to put people into awkward positions and we do not like it one bit.[/quote]

That is unfortunate, but as Tiministan's world stance is invasion and telling its neighbor they should let themselves be taken over we are right to be wary. While Vaahrok does not attempt to be a saint of a nation, but we do not have anything to hide. Tiministan apparently has dark secrets it can barely keep from admiting to.

[King Timmy]

Again, you assume incorrectly. Good day.

If you have something you wish to ask us, feel free. We prefer direct questions, not ones that use incomplete truths to assume the worst.

*** PRIVATE ***

All further communications from Vaahrok are hereby blocked until we deem they are relevant

Edited November 21, 2010 by King Timmy

[AironthFlamewing]

The UKI-M hereby cease all diplomatic recognition of Tiministan and expel their diplomats from our soil.