HeroofTime55 Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 [quote name='Banksy' timestamp='1288412411' post='2496938'] So I assume this makes MK de facto C&G members now. With [i]two whole treaties[/i] with C&G members they should just join amirite. [/quote]Very well played. But in reality... CnG is going to roll with MK, and vice versa, as long as ODN/=LOST= roll with MK and vice versa, and as we all know CnG of course rolls as a whole. It's that nasty transitive property of treaties again. Dang! (It's a credit to MK that I can apply the transitive property, I wouldn't be able to if they were the kind of folks I thought would shirk their obligations and ignore their friendships to save infrastructure.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denial Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Sentinal' timestamp='1288412159' post='2496928'] What really was the point of canceling all your treaties when you're just going to resign them? [/quote] We are literally resigning every treaty we've ever had. Literally. Edited October 30, 2010 by Denial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaoshawk Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 [quote name='Denial' timestamp='1288413235' post='2496950'] We are literally resigning every treaty we've ever had. Literally. [/quote] We're going to need that redundant treaty we used to have then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 [quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1288413062' post='2496949'] Very well played. But in reality... CnG is going to roll with MK, and vice versa, as long as ODN/=LOST= roll with MK and vice versa, and as we all know CnG of course rolls as a whole. It's that nasty transitive property of treaties again. Dang![/quote] I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to prove here. What you describe is, well, a treaty. You are very observant in spotting that MK, ODN and =LOST= all share one, and that they will probably be followed. There is, however, a fundamental difference between joining a bloc and having a treaty with a bloc, notably the non-chaining treaties. MK is allied to four different alliances, and we are committed to defending four different alliances. We might get dragged in to some larger war because of our mantra of not breaking treaties, but we have greater autonomy. If we were in a MADP bloc, the number of alliances we were directly responsible for would increase to 20-30, which is something we're not entirely comfortable with doing at the moment. I don't think anyone disagrees that in some future war, C&G, MK and PB will probably be on the same side. This would be the case even if MK was still treaty-less. But we are now allied to a smaller selection of alliances who we are close friends with and we are quite content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leet Guy Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 [quote name='Denial' timestamp='1288413235' post='2496950'] We are literally resigning every treaty we've ever had. Literally. [/quote] It's true, I was unhappy my name wasn't on all of them, so necessary actions had to be taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style #386 Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 [quote name='Denial' timestamp='1288413235' post='2496950'] We are literally resigning every treaty we've ever had. Literally. [/quote] Can we bring back Vanguard? They were the loveliest pit vipers I ever had the pleasure of acquainting myself with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denial Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 [quote name='Style #386' timestamp='1288414389' post='2496965'] Can we bring back Vanguard? [/quote] That's the rumour. I really have no idea where people get this stuff from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some-Guy Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 God, I thought we'd got rid of lolDN at last Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hombre de Murcielago Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 (edited) WHAT? Resign a treaty you had before???? Where is your paperless God now MK? o/ Edited October 30, 2010 by Hombre de Murcielago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DictatatorDan Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 [quote name='Quinoa Rex' timestamp='1288410942' post='2496897'] We now possess 3 treaties covering 4 alliances: two members of C&G and two members of PB. This is hardly "every section of the web"; I'm not really sure where you're going with this. [/quote] [color="#FF0000"]Sarcasm aparently has not been invented yet.[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevanovia Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 [quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1288412228' post='2496933'] So that they could cancel their relationships with certain people while theoretically avoiding a PR hit. [/quote] We have a winner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 [quote name='DictatatorDan' timestamp='1288417953' post='2497014'] [color="#FF0000"]Sarcasm aparently has not been invented yet.[/color] [/quote] Problems arise when you're stupid enough for people to basically believe anything that comes out of your mouth as being serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonator21 Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Congrats to our friends in ODN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x8BitL0gic Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Congrats to my friends in ODN. o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seerow Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Hero of Time, please write a 5 page essay on the transitive properties of treaties. Given our three newest treaties, I want this essay to include you linking MK to defending (or rolling with agressively) NPO, SOS Brigade, and Polaris. I expect the essay posted in this topic no later than tomorrow at 3:00pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendoftheSkies Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 [quote name='DictatatorDan' timestamp='1288410754' post='2496891'] [color="#FF0000"]How many more treaties are you going to sign tonight? Why are you linking yourself into every section of the web? This is madness.[/color] [/quote] Not every section. They didn't sign a treaty with NPO yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Congrats to our friends. Treaty needs more blaming of Joracy. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoppistan Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 (edited) BTW, you all can stop looking. The princess is at my house. She always has been. It's where she goes when she's tired of low wage earning plumbers who crawl around in the sewers stalking her from castle to castle. Plus, I've got cocaine. As for the topic. Meh. Don't care/congrats, I guess. My only surprise is that MK took an interesting concept of canceling their treaties and then ruined it. Makes me think the whole thing was either a fumbled foreign policy objective or a tarp in which that no one took the bait. I guess we'll see what they do next. Edited October 30, 2010 by Kzoppistan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DictatatorDan Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 [quote name='Pingu' timestamp='1288412084' post='2496924'] Dear Comrade D34th, I am disappointed that you did not produce your required sour note until this late in the conversation. Comment number thirty is very slow. Please be quicker off the mark in future. In solidarity, Pingu [/quote] [color="#FF0000"]He's just jealous that Polaris is not (yet) on MK's list of freinds.[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSkellington Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Satellite of C&G. Absolutely disgusting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandellav Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 I am very disappointed with my close allies in ODN for taking MK back in such a timely fashion. =LOST= feels like we were just the rebound in a bizarre polygamous relationship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denial Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Kevanovia' timestamp='1288418191' post='2497015'] We have a winner! [/quote] This idea that we dissolved all of our treaties purely as a method of dropping a few of them while avoiding a 'PR hit' is inherently flawed. Firstly, it assumes that there would have been a 'PR hit' by us cancelling some treaties. Where would this terrible PR hit come from, exactly? Mushroom Kingdom would have been ridding itself of treaties, slightly breaking apart this 'hegemony' that supposedly exists, which is something that our detractors would be celebrating. So, who would be responsible for the tirades and 50-page long threads of criticism that is usually associated with a 'PR hit'? Yes, those alliances that we hypothetically would have cancelled on would likely be frustrated, but MK has surrounded itself with rather sensible friends that generally express such feelings in private venues. Secondly, it assumes that we care in the slightest bit what the Alteregos, the PrideAssassins, the Haflingers, the HoTs, the ChairmanHals, etc. of this Cyberverse think. Here's a hint: we don't. We formulate and execute policies that are within the best interests of the Kingdom. We do not formulate and execute policies on the basis of how much or how little complaining they will provoke from the public. Edited October 30, 2010 by Denial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Thanks MK and ODN for putting a smile on this old fools face, the restoration of ties between MK and ODN is very pleasing to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oOoMidooOo Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Haha, iam sure both parties are quite used to each other . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 MK is like the hegemonic cement that lays between the bricks of PB and CNG. Rock solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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