Dementual Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 [quote name='Jonathan Brookbank' timestamp='1284320768' post='2451280'] Keep dreaming. [/quote] The man has to have some dreams, after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoindotnler Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 [quote name='Fernando12' timestamp='1284320606' post='2451272'] No, it's much closer to being the end of days for NSO. Bye bye NSO. [/quote] Says the one with 6,062.048 NS, don't get me started about the irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando12 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 [quote name='Jonathan Brookbank' timestamp='1284320768' post='2451280'] Keep dreaming. [/quote] Don't need to dream. Dream implies sleep or fantasy. It's not a dream if it's reality. Plus, you the final killer of GGA is in NSO. Your presence alone is sealing their fate. But please come back with NSO is better without me etc etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Fingolfin Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Well this is interesting, now to find out what precipitated this. *runs off to IRC* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krunk the Great Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 [quote name='Fernando12' timestamp='1284321020' post='2451288'] Don't need to dream. Dream implies sleep or fantasy. It's not a dream if it's reality. Plus, you the final killer of GGA is in NSO. Your presence alone is sealing their fate. But please come back with NSO is better without me etc etc... [/quote] Why state the painfully obvious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin32891 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 [quote name='Fernando12' timestamp='1284321020' post='2451288'] Don't need to dream. Dream implies sleep or fantasy. It's not a dream if it's reality. Plus, you the final killer of GGA is in NSO. Your presence alone is sealing their fate. But please come back with NSO is better without me etc etc... [/quote] Come on Fernando get over it and stop being mad. We don't even make fun of you behind your back anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moridin Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 (edited) [quote name='cookavich' timestamp='1284320061' post='2451249'] And so the treaty that wrecked Frostbite disappears. [/quote] The treaty did not wreck Frostbite. Frostbite was a highly dysfunctional bloc that collapsed due to internal conflict. NSO signed the treaty with IRON only after it became apparent that the bloc was going to dissolve (whether this was their intent or not I have no idea). The collapse itself was catalyzed by the TPF war where NSO was not a fan of siding with Athens, while Polar and STA ended up on the C&G/SF side given the treaties they held. At the time of STA's withdrawal from Frostbite, Pezstar [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=77424&view=findpost&p=2076104"]said[/url] quite clearly that it had nothing to do with the IRON treaty, a statement later backed up by Tyga and Uhtred. Edited September 12, 2010 by Moridin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Since I don't know many of the details so far, I won't comment on who's in the right. But, from where I stand, it looks like a "Congratulations, NSO" is in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theophilos Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Good luck NSO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacapo Saladin Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Glad to see this cancelled. Asking your allies to declare on your other allies is bad practice IRON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerdonia Redux Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 (edited) So when can I expect to see the logs in full? edit: obligatory 'congrats IRON' Edited September 12, 2010 by Tigerdonia Redux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehChron Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 [quote name='Jacapo Saladin' timestamp='1284321701' post='2451300'] Glad to see this cancelled. Asking your allies to declare on your other allies is bad practice IRON. [/quote] Well, no one ever was going to claim IRON were known for their skill in politics. That being said, happy trails, IRON! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixoux Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 One of the few times I actually congratulate NSO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccabal86 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Good luck NSO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathias Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 A step in the right direction, congratulations NSO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 [quote name='Chron' timestamp='1284321860' post='2451304'] Well, no one ever was going to claim IRON were known for their skill in politics. [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]Who needs that when you got TOP to make your decisions for you? That said, toodles IRON.[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaris Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Whatever happened between you two to make this treaty history, I'm sure you will remain great friends, and will continue to enjoy the fruits of your mutually compatible personalities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copperhead Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 o/ Heggo Well Done Sir The treaty had no substance considering how IRON conducted themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moridin Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 [quote name='Chron' timestamp='1284321860' post='2451304']Well, no one ever was going to claim IRON were known for their skill in politics.[/quote] [quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1284322204' post='2451312'][color="#000000"]Who needs that when you got TOP to make your decisions for you?[/color][/quote] While it's refreshing to see a treaty cancellation where the two parties don't claim they're still going to be best friends forever, you seem to be going a little overboard. Is it just cognitive dissonance or was the relationship really that far gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Well, I'm certainly not complaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EgoFreaky Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 [quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1284320064' post='2451250'] [color="#0000FF"]But what does seem oddly suspicious is to go around asking your allies to declare so that you won't have to honor a treaty. Not that we were going to ask them to anyway, but to go to such lengths to weasel out of something just doesn't sit well with me.[/color] [color="#0000FF"]And seeing what a great ally IRON turned out to be, it was totally worth it.[/color] [/quote] I'm not going to discuss if DVD actually said that or not and to who... But we (R&R) did NOT get any requests from IRON to attack you guys. Trust me, if we had I would be the first one to post it on the OWF and rub it in your face. Anyway, my apologies to IRON for any part we played in this but i'm not gonna pretend i'll lose sleep over this cancellation. o/ IRON! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 [quote name='Moridin' timestamp='1284322400' post='2451323'] While it's refreshing to see a treaty cancellation where the two parties don't claim they're still going to be best friends forever, you seem to be going a little overboard. Is it just cognitive dissonance or was the relationship really that far gone? [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]It may just be me, but I've had strong hatred of IRON for many months now. A few other allies too, but I'll hold my tongue on them. For now at least anyway.[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEd Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 [quote name='kevin32891' timestamp='1284319999' post='2451248'] There's more to it than that. [/quote] Do tell... Now. It seems IRON and NSO are both winners. For one, IRON no longer has to worry about NSO's incompetence that almost got them rolled twice within the span of a single month. On the other hand, you have NSO getting rid of [i]"weasels"[/i] in IRON. It seems to me that both alliances are happy with this treaty coming to a close. [quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1284320064' post='2451250'] [color="#0000FF"]But what does seem oddly suspicious is to go around asking your allies to declare so that you won't have to honor a treaty. Not that we were going to ask them to anyway, but to go to such lengths to [b]weasel[/b] out of something just doesn't sit well with me.[/color] [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believland Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Can you guys just post the logs of the conversation? It'd make some people's lives more enjoyable and easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehChron Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 [quote name='Moridin' timestamp='1284322400' post='2451323'] While it's refreshing to see a treaty cancellation where the two parties don't claim they're still going to be best friends forever, you seem to be going a little overboard. Is it just cognitive dissonance or was the relationship really that far gone? [/quote] More like it was hardly ever there to begin with, from my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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