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[quote name='Zoot Zoot' timestamp='1284599166' post='2455293']
*Justin still owns the territory and will need to clear the authorisation of what is in effect, an army desending on the city whilst his own army is occupying it.
*Moving the entire army across the med, and europe into Helsinki is silly because who is going to allow such a force to fly over their territory? again more permissions needed.
*The time period is too short, this sort of deployment would take weeks and weeks to muster and deploy, and over such a large area from its origins, which are either in North Africa or Antarctica on the Artemis terror mountain.

When I think of more by god ill add them, but this RP is a load of bollocks and Im calling shens on it.
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1. Margrave told me I could and that he had agreements in place to allow me. That's on him, not myself, and if Justinian wants to say something about it he can.
2. I have permission from Germany to fly over their territory, which stretches all the way across from the Med to the north.
3. And this process is taking[b] several weeks[/b] and[b] is not done yet[/b], and has origins in North Africa and [b]Germany[/b], where I have my headquarters at.

Edited by Sargun

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Technically Helsinki is still occupied by Slavorussia, however Margrave and I agree that Helsinki will eventually be his. I never made it clear to him, so this is mostly my fault, but I expected him to rp some kind of move toward independence and to declare a government before I begin gradually withdrawing.

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[quote name='Justinian the Mighty' timestamp='1284600019' post='2455307']
Technically Helsinki is still occupied by Slavorussia, however Margrave and I agree that Helsinki will eventually be his. I never made it clear to him, so this is mostly my fault, but I expected him to rp some kind of move toward independence and to declare a government before I begin gradually withdrawing.
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This would be done in tandem with Margrave's declaration to make it legal. That should have been clarified and I'm willing to edit it into my post so that there's an IC part of "this happens after independence, etc."

Edited by Sargun

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I am unsure if this is the right spot to post this, but it seems to be so I'll just do it and face consequences later. I just wanted to say that as I now have internet in my new APT (after 3 months woo) which means that I am back to being something of a regular.

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[quote name='The Disco Commandant' timestamp='1284601383' post='2455333']
I am unsure if this is the right spot to post this, but it seems to be so I'll just do it and face consequences later. I just wanted to say that as I now have internet in my new APT (after 3 months woo) which means that I am back to being something of a regular.
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I'd say the OOC thread would be an infinitely better place to post, but glad to have you back regardless.

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This be a question concerning a RP I shall be writing.


Basically, a certain player posted that OOC-wise, he had his eyes on expanding into Korea, while IC-wise, thar has been no particular RP on the matter. Now, since the player in this case be suppsoed to be a nice pacifist, liberal monarchy, him expanding would have been completely against the nature of his RP. Given this case, can I RP that me country has suspicions that the country in question has evil plans against me?



Edit: be should watch meself. Started talking in pirate language.

Edited by Kankou

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Given that the only rationale for your suspicions would be his OOC-wise postings, I'd consider that metagaming since ye admit he be a pacifistic ship and it would be against his nature to expand.

On the other hand, if he blatantly goes out of his way to expand without any rationale behind it either I'd consider being a bit harsher on him.

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But then, after reviewing the posts, it seemed that the country in question "recognized" that thar were miltiary buildups when [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=69139"]the event[/url] happened. Also, the suspicion would be in past tense, using information from the previous player in Korea.

Edited by Kankou

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[quote name='Kankou' timestamp='1284943003' post='2458556']
But then, after reviewing the posts, it seemed that the country in question "recognized" that thar were miltiary buildups when [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=69139"]the event[/url] happened. Also, the suspicion would be in past tense, using information from the previous player in Korea.
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Why are you quoting something from 2009?

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[quote name='iKrolm' timestamp='1284518087' post='2454283']
Was more than one SDI roll made per missile?
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Yes, one for each SDI that was crossed.

Edited by Subtleknifewielder

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[quote name='Voodoo Nova' timestamp='1285005390' post='2459051']
Why are you quoting something from 2009?
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It is necessary to my plans. Plus, found it while searching the former player in Korea's topics.



Question: If one finds a way to stop a nuclear weapon from exploding that does not involve the SDI, will it be valid? I've been reviewing some methods, and some of them that are quite possible.

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[quote name='Kankou' timestamp='1286159422' post='2473759']
It is necessary to my plans. Plus, found it while searching the former player in Korea's topics.



Question: If one finds a way to stop a nuclear weapon from exploding that does not involve the SDI, will it be valid? I've been reviewing some methods, and some of them that are quite possible.
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As understood from the SDI rolls, there are many ways to intercept a nuke, but its success probability would still depend on the SDI roll you get. For eg: you may deactivate it "Peacekeeper" style, but still you would need an SDI roll to determine its outcome.

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One of the methods I've thought of is using a nuclear anti-air missile. Basically, after your regular SDI fails, you use your nuclear anti-air missile to go for a sure skill. Forcing that to be part of SDI rolls seems rather stiff.

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[quote name='Kankou' timestamp='1286159648' post='2473765']
One of the methods I've thought of is using a nuclear anti-air missile. Basically, after your regular SDI fails, you use your nuclear anti-air missile to go for a sure skill. Forcing that to be part of SDI rolls seems rather stiff.
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It's part of the CN in CNRP and it follows KISS as well.

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I'll just wait for the GMs on this. Denying a sure-way method for game mechanics seems very dogmatic.

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[quote name='Kankou' timestamp='1286159938' post='2473769']
I'll just wait for the GMs on this. Denying a sure-way method for game mechanics seems very dogmatic.
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The non SDI ways of intercepting nukes had been discussed several times before however the consensus in the end had been that whatever way you use to defeat a nuke attack, its probability of success still depends on the SDI roll. Even if you have a multi layered SDI system like me, if you lose an SDI roll, you still get nuked. Even if you do not have any SDI if you win a SDI roll, the nuke will not hit you, it would be forced to fizzle out.

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In all other cases, we have no IG stats to back up the multi-layer system. However, in the case of the nuclear AAM, we'll have the player use up a nuke. Shouldn't that in itself be an exception?

As for the rest, I understand the logic. I'll stop brainstorming.

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In order to stop a nuclear detonation you need an SDI. Period.

[b]Or[/b] you can propose an RP-only solution to stopping a nuclear detonation in your country. If you do this, the other person is not obligated to accept this solution and it is only valid if the other person allows it to be. (In short, planned RPing)

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Calling shens on this !@#$.
http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=93115&view=findpost&p=2476714

In a matter of minutes he has 5000 men ashore in the center of London, after sailing through an active warzone.
ransacked the tower of london
and got an aeroplane out of the city in an active warzone

AND flown it back to the netherlands.

Now, call me a !@#$%*, but his last two posts where MINUTES apart from eachother.

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[quote name=%26%2339%3BZoot Zoot' timestamp='1286332507' post='2476730']
Calling shens on this !@#$.
http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=93115&view=findpost&p=2476714

In a matter of minutes he has 5000 men ashore in the center of London, after sailing through an active warzone.
ransacked the tower of london
and got an aeroplane out of the city in an active warzone

AND flown it back to the netherlands.

Now, call me a !@#$%*, but his last two posts where MINUTES apart from eachother.
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I can accept the part about my men being stopped from returning, but since no one really blocked me when I was in the North Sea, I say that I would have landed in London.

Edited by Karl Martin

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But you didnt, you posted like FIVE TIMES in the whole thread, ill even comment them.

"I declare war"
"40,00 troops loaded into ships and started heading to london"
"5000 troops disembarked in london and ransacked the tower"
"troops dead, but plane escaped to amsterdamn with jewels"

The last two are within four !@#$@#$ minutes of each other.

NO.

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Okay, my turn: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=93115&view=findpost&p=2476789


Basically, those missiles would have done a bit of damage, which did not happen according to Yawoo. Would this be a godmod?

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No, working in conjuction with my type 45 specialist AA destroyer, his far move advanced anti missile systems would have destroyed most, and with my assistance, pretty much all of them.

Btw respond to my attack on your ships.

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[quote name='Karl Martin' timestamp='1286334830' post='2476797']
Okay, my turn: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=93115&view=findpost&p=2476789


Basically, those missiles would have done a bit of damage, which did not happen according to Yawoo. Would this be a godmod?
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You launched twenty missiles of WWII era tech. My nation is a modern nation - it would easily be able to destroy those missiles before they impacted.

According to your IG nation you have zero tech. I have over 4,000 tech. It's not a godmod... it's technology.

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