Whitney Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) I've always had this perceived idea of how government choice works. I'd like someone to explain to me why I may be wrong. Here are the four relevant Government choices: [IMG]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/OmegaMet/CNgov.png[/IMG] Monarchy, Capitalist, and Democracy are the most popular. Federal Government is just as unpopular as all the other irrelevant Governments... which strikes me as odd, so I'm adding it to the list for debate. Now, I believe there are three categories for Governments. Bill Paying, Tax Collecting, and Both. Democracy is in the Tax Collecting category. Capitalist and Federal are both in Bill Paying. Monarchy is in both. Considering this, you could take the above chart and edit out the categories that are irrelevant and just going to distract you. For Tax Collecting, anything bill related is irrelevant as I believe you shouldn't be paying bills while in your Tax Collecting Gov. For Bill Paying, your happiness, environment, and land are meaningless. Environment and Land only affect your nation's happiness. This is how my chart looked afterward. [IMG]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/OmegaMet/CNgov2.png[/IMG] Now, Monarchy has always been the Gov choice for new players up to a certain point. That's how I've always viewed it and I think that's universally agreed as correct. Though, looking at it, I wonder if it could possibly be better than Democracy for collecting for ANY nation. [b]Is that land bonus of Monarchy better for collections than the environment bonus of Democracy?[/b] Then comes the Capitalist vs Federal debate. Personally, from the data above, I see Federal government as slightly better than Capitalist... just for the simple fact that Federal has the +8% soldier efficiency (in case you're attacked by some rogue or whatever). The question is, if this is the case, then [b]why do 17.97% of players use Capitalist when only 5.69% of players use Federal?[/b] [[url="http://www.cybernations.net/stats_demographics.asp"]source[/url]] Also, feel free to tell me why I may be wrong about anything here. For instance, I've seen people who use Capitalist for collections, which baffles me considering the lack of Happiness. Edited August 12, 2010 by Whitney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironfist Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Well I don't know about people *collecting* in capitalist, because it's not a smart thing to do, but who are we to tell others how to run their nations To address your main issues (or what I perceived to be your main issues): [quote][b]Is that land bonus of Monarchy better for collections than the environment bonus of Democracy?[/b][/quote] That depends entirely on your nation. If you've got a nation with a bad environment, it could be that the environment bonus is better than the land bonus. But if you've got a nation with the best environment possible (GRL+1), then it's quite pointless going for an environment bonus as you've got the best there is, and the land would help. I guess, it depends. [quote][b]why do 17.97% of players use Capitalist when only 5.69% of players use Federal?[/b][/quote] Preference I imagine. I use Capitalist more than I use Federal Government because I don't see that the extra soldier efficiency matters to me. It's true, the extra efficiency is quite beneficial to ward off potential raiders but they essentially do the same thing for you nation in terms of paying bills. There could be an element of role playing too? Perhaps they prefer to see "Capitalist" rather than "Federal". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurunin Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 quick question...why'd you black out the environment boost for Capitalist in the second image? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quigon jinn Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 [quote]Is that land bonus of Monarchy better for collections than the environment bonus of Democracy?[/quote] For most nations, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cscyankees Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 (edited) Capitalism is eventually better for collections than Monarchy. If you have very high happiness and a lot of citizens, and you don't have a perfect (GRL + 1) environment with Monarchy, Capitalism may be a better option (it is for me). That being said, Democracy should be better than Capitalism unless you have some ridiculous amount of land and very little infrastructure. As for Federalist v. Capitalism for bills, I don't think it really makes a difference... personally I use Capitalism because if I were to get DoW'd during a back collect I'd rather collect with Capitalism than Federalism before I switch to Communism. Also, Dictatorship can be better for bills/infra if you have a huge military. If you have a huge navy, tanks, and a full complement of nukes you should see which is better. Edited August 16, 2010 by cscyankees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitney Posted August 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 [quote name='Lurunin' timestamp='1281719141' post='2414477'] quick question...why'd you black out the environment boost for Capitalist in the second image? [/quote] Because you don't collect with Capitalism, therefore the environment doesn't have an effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironfist Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 [quote name='Whitney' timestamp='1281747846' post='2415144'] Because you don't collect with Capitalism, therefore the environment doesn't have an effect. [/quote] Well some do, it seems: [quote name='cscyankees' timestamp='1281739552' post='2414951'] Capitalism is eventually better for collections than Monarchy. If you have very high happiness and a lot of citizens, and you don't have a perfect (GRL + 1) environment with Monarchy, Capitalism may be a better option (it is for me). [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurunin Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 the environment boost helps me more than that +1 happiness boosts do so i do collect there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cscyankees Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 I collect with Democracy, not Capitalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asawyer Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Late in the game it probably does not matter, but early on the slight environment boost from capitalist can make it easier to swap improvements. As yankees pointed out the soldier effectiveness is moot since most nations will change governments types during war anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbear7777 Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 I like capitalist the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Nathan Brittles Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Having a nice new shovel was just too tempting huh? Gravedig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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