Kevanovia Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 (edited) [center][URL=http://img203.imageshack.us/i/soccerfail2.jpg/][IMG]http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5806/soccerfail2.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/center] Hello ladies and gentlemen. As I'm sure the majority of you that are online at the moment have read, the [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=89245"]Guru Order showed some logs of a merge talk I had with them[/url]. These logs are valid (he did however leave some of the logs out, but understandably so as if he included them most likely people would have been so amused by the logs.) But the logs he posted are certainly valid. First off I'd like to reaffirm that Peggy was gone during these talks and I didn't get her endorsement to go ahead and talk to Guru about merging. The question that most of you are probably asking yourself or have been posting in the thread is "why the frack did he do that?" The answer: The UPN is a solid alliance full of extremely nice people and willing to help build it into something truly great, but I guess I was looking for a shortcut. I was looking to help the fastest way possible. I've came across many alliances over my years on Planet Bob that are out for one thing and one thing only, "feeling important". For whatever reason I figured Guru Order were one of those alliances, and with a merge I felt like they would get what they were looking for and the UPN would get what they were looking for (active members). Perhaps I should of taken a look at their stats before I engaged talks with jman, I was under the impression that they were half the size they really were. By the time I figured it out, the talks had already began to roll, so I went with it. I talked to jman in query and asked him if he would like to continue the merge talks in a separate channel, I also said if he didn't want to do that I completely understood and thanked him for his time. He appeared in the channel (later on with their MoFA), so I figured that he was interested and asked DonVox to come in the channel. He said that he thought it wasn't a good idea, but I asked him to trust me and so he ended up going into the channel. He didn't even take part of the discussions, so as far as people blaming him for his participation - you're in the wrong. After awhile after realizing what I just did, I apologized to jman last night telling him that "I have never been so embarrassed". After that thread, I can now say with 100% certainty that I really have never been so embarrassed in my time on Planet Bob. Now before this I had asked several of other alliances if they would be interested in merging, the first being my close friends in Gondor. When I asked, Chey seemed interested and I relayed the news over to Peggy. I got a few pats on the head, as I vouched for Chey and cited my previous jobs as MoFA at some well-known and successful alliances as my background in regards to FA. It made me feel important to the alliance and I felt great that my efforts were going to help excel UPN forward. I had been looking for a home ever since the IAA went boom, I had no doubts that these people were going to be like family to me. The next day Chey had given notice that he thought the merge was a joke and that he wasn't interested. Me, not wanting to let Peggy or the UPN down, went to another alliance after that. Our MDoAP buddies, Menotah. I soon got to know them and knew they would be a great part of the community, my future home. We were in talks for quite awhile. Soon I realized that they weren't interested either. Peggy asked me not to ask anymore alliances when Menotah was deliberating on it. During the time when Menotah were thinking over the proposal, we (UPN community) were talking about how we needed this merge and that it would greatly help us. So figuring that I'd be soon be forgiven if I did get an alliance to merge into us, I went against Peggs' wishes. I contacted Fallen Knights, R3's alliance as well as a few others. All getting the same answer: No. Then I thought I was doing it all wrong, that I needed to go after a medium sized alliance who were anxious to be on top. I thought the Guru Order were one of these alliances and so the events that were described earlier took place, etc. I am embarrassed, having served several terms at other great alliances makes it only worse. Bottom line, I should have known better. Not only was it ridiculous to propose a merge to an alliance we had no connections with, it was also dangerous. As Alfred said in the other thread, with all of the members joining that we had no past ties with...it could have caused chaos. I am sincerely sorry to all of the teammates, friends and allies I have hurt with this mistake. I apologize to Menotah, whom I know are a great alliance and are great allies. Asking all these other alliances to merge makes my offer to you guys seem pretty garbage. You deserve better than that. I apologize to the Orange Defense Network who has done so much for us recently and helped out tremendously. Doing this puts them in a bad light as well (being connected to UPN) and I apologize. You guys are by far the best alliance in this game and I feel ashamed to be apart of something to put you in a bad position. I apologize to all of our other allies (CDT, Polaris, Quantum, Phoenix Rising) to also putting them into a tough position. I apologize to the members of UPN. Instead of helping, I ended up hurting us in the most terrible way. Apparently maybe I haven't been as helpful as I would like to have thought. You guys are awesome. Although I haven't been on IRC or our forums to contact you guys about this yet, I hope you guys will find it in your hearts to eventually forgive me. Because I do really care about UPN and I would love for it to be my home. Most of all I apologize to Peggy. You have been getting such a rough time for reasons that are pretty bogus, and this doesn't help at all. You're a great leader Peggy, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I'm sorry for the mess that this created and I'm sure it wasn't too great of a surprise to wake up and find this on the OWF. I think stepping down as your MoFA would be for the best. Maybe I could help out internally for awhile, until I get back in the swing of things. Again Peggy, I am so sorry. The UPN wasn't at fault here, I was. If you're looking to cast blame on a group on an alliance, think again. Blame the person who is at fault. Because that is how I was acting, I was acting as an individual by not contacting the rest of my alliance. So as such, I should individually be taking the blame. Edited July 19, 2010 by Kevanovia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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