NPO: The Tabloid Tribune - Issue #158

[Branimir]

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I am not going to argue with you Antonio. Another "fecal matter" post would just be too much to read.

I am surprised to see this display you put up here. Although I had a small sample of your posts, upon which to build a general picture of the caliber of character you are, I was wrong in my original take on you. You turned out to be quite a silly character in the end, which honestly, I can not take seriously (as such as well your roll as an ambassador to us is just a joke to me now). The banners, sigs and somewhat careful pick of words now just enhance the comedic value of post content you produce which are just childish bickering with the smell of "fullness with oneself" which looks silly on you. I do so feel you completely discredited yourself and over such a silly thing. I am left to think this is something "personal" you have with Sir Paul, or your just random need to turn out a fool.

Either way, Antonio, in my probably last response to you (I can not get bothered with all nonsense posters) let me just say: "I am disappoint"; to use a popular meme.

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[Cortath]

Ambassador Antonio Salovega IV, let me invite you to sit down with us and have some tea.

You seem to be rather upset about our Tabloid incorrectly reported that you had hit 0 of the 12 targets reported to you, when you had in fact hit 2. I was wondering if you would care to take with me, and discuss how in the world you think hitting 2 of 12 targets is in anyway respectable for an alliance of your military might? Perhaps you would also care to discuss, since I suspect you and yours may bring up the fact that there are a few low NS targets among those 12, why in the world the Viridian Entente and its fourteen (thirteen) friends would ever be so monstrously stupid as to take on an obligation in the terms of surrender that they knew they would be unable to fulfill?

I look forward to taking tea with you, Ambassador. I prefer earl grey double bergamot.

[Triyun]

[quote name='Antonio Salovega VI' date='19 June 2010 - 05:24 PM' timestamp='1276964628' post='2342942']
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In response to:



I was wondering when someone was going to get around to asking me what put the burr under my saddle. It took you long enough. Let’s see if you can be as apologetic as you are outraged. What I object to is you and your lack of honor, integrity, and a distinct lapse in journalistic integrity.

What took Goldielax 17 minutes to identify as “bullcrap”, took you two days to correct and make an apology. I will admit that it was a nicely worded apology. I will also admit that you artfully concealed it. You did not place the apology in context. You buried it at the end of your TL;DR OP where it easily escapes notice. The text of the article reads, “Despite having so many attackers in so many strength bands, the G14 did not hit a single raider.” No in context explanation for the red numeric; it is just red. No in context credit to the VE for their efforts on behalf of the NPO. In spite of your apology, you still left VE branded. You went through the motions without changing the stench of the article’s intent.

Let us press on. In your OP, one of your signatures reads: “I don’t have a brain. Archon thinks for me.” Yet when I portray your comrades in a similar fashion, Branimir whines howls like he is butthurt. So apparently it is permissible if you take pot shots at the “intellectually limited” (Branimir’s choice of words not mine) but not if anybody else does it. Double standards FTW, right?

Evidently, your morality allows you to fabricate potential “evidence” of an intention of one alliance to harm another. In your OP you stated, “In addition, bragging about taking down the number one alliance – twice, indicates a willingness to do it a third time.” Now align that with your response to me: “I'm actually a bit of a collector myself, my rarest item being some version 1.0 Viridian Tech. I bet its value will double when version 3.0 comes out.” Are you concerned that your “odd statement” may be another “that confused some and worried others”? Or are you just hoping that the ol’ double standard will get you off the hook upon which you hung yourself?

I shall paraphrase your own statement: Since you do not allow me the luxury of separating myself from my government, I do not think I shall allow you to have the luxury of separating yourself from your role as a representative of NPO. A humorless phrase of “we run over” the truth, does not absolve you nor does it absolve your government from your statements.

How you rectify your mistakes I leave to you. But I have a suggestion. If I were you I would not irritate me further. Do your job right. Check your facts. If you need to make a retraction, make it in the same venue you made the mistake; don’t bury it. Do not be a hypocrite. Getting incensed at others when they mirror your own actions is fatuitous at best. Your self- justification in your response above is nothing more than perpetuation of Branimir’s intellectual flatulence. An indication of an institutional short-coming perhaps? For heaven’s sake, man up.

I offer the following in the same spirit as theone which inspired it was offered to me:

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Congratulations, you may consider yourself schooled and accountable. Now that school is out, I shall return to my more usual and diplomatic ways of expressing myself.


Enjoying your predictability,
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Antonio Salovega VI
Guazabara'guani
Republico de Qinqe

[color="#8B0000"][i][size="1"]The above commentary is the personal opinion of the author and does not reflect the position of his alliance.[/size][/i][/color]
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Lol GGA (spellcheck)

Edited June 19, 2010 by Triyun

[uaciaut]

Thanks for the attention. Keep 'em coming /bawwwww

[Iosif]

fff me wrong topic

Edited June 19, 2010 by Iosif

[Mark XIII]

[quote name='Cortath' date='19 June 2010 - 02:00 PM' timestamp='1276974029' post='2343068']
Ambassador Antonio Salovega IV, let me invite you to sit down with us and have some tea.

You seem to be rather upset about our Tabloid incorrectly reported that you had hit 0 of the 12 targets reported to you, when you had in fact hit 2. I was wondering if you would care to take with me, and discuss how in the world you think hitting 2 of 12 targets is in anyway respectable for an alliance of your military might? Perhaps you would also care to discuss, since I suspect you and yours may bring up the fact that there are a few low NS targets among those 12, why in the world the Viridian Entente and its fourteen (thirteen) friends would ever be so monstrously stupid as to take on an obligation in the terms of surrender that they knew they would be unable to fulfill?

I look forward to taking tea with you, Ambassador. I prefer earl grey double bergamot.
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[url=http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=358743][color=red][s]061mozart123[/s][/color][/url] - Attacking NPO - 2 Rounds of war
[b][color=red]Priority Target - All Battalions: [/b][/color][url=http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=89690][color=red][s]Sir.JK[/s][/color][/url] - Attacking NPO - ZI
[url=http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=300561][color=red][s]bleh32[/s][/color][/url] - Attacking NPO - 2 Rounds - Cobra
[url=http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=317294][color=red][s]Royal Janissary[/s][/color][/url] - Attacking NPO - One more round of war - Phoenix
[url=http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=291675][color=red][s]b tard[/s][/color][/url] - Attacking NPO - ZI - Kusanagi
[url=http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=262337][color=red][s]ltmadsen[/s][/color][/url] - Attacking NPO - 2 rounds - Kusanagi
[url=http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=374543][color=red][s]roninbaukki[/s][/color][/url] - Attacking NPO - 2 rounds - Cobra

My records of completed punishment dealt to nations regarding the New Pacific Order since the time I was instated as Secretary of Defense. Luckily, or maybe not for you, I did keep records of such things, you know, as a good habit. Like I said previously apparently your alliance did not, considering your 0 then 2 !@#$%^&*.

[Believland]

7 out of 12 isn't good either, too be honest. Unless you guys are planning to be weathermen. If you are, well you're hired!

[Letum]

[quote name='Believland' date='20 June 2010 - 12:39 AM' timestamp='1276990748' post='2343243']
7 out of 12 isn't good either, too be honest.
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That list is from when he was installed as SecDef, so it is out of more than 12.

Though lumping them altogether like that, and not providing context, might create that form of impression.

Edit: In fact, the first guy, 061mozart123, was reported as far back as [b]January[/b]: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=77401

Edited June 20, 2010 by Letum

[Jesse End]

[quote name='Mark XIII' date='19 June 2010 - 05:32 PM' timestamp='1276990338' post='2343236']
[url=http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=358743][color=red][s]061mozart123[/s][/color][/url] - Attacking NPO - 2 Rounds of war
[b][color=red]Priority Target - All Battalions: [/b][/color][url=http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=89690][color=red][s]Sir.JK[/s][/color][/url] - Attacking NPO - ZI
[url=http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=300561][color=red][s]bleh32[/s][/color][/url] - Attacking NPO - 2 Rounds - Cobra
[url=http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=317294][color=red][s]Royal Janissary[/s][/color][/url] - Attacking NPO - One more round of war - Phoenix
[url=http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=291675][color=red][s]b tard[/s][/color][/url] - Attacking NPO - ZI - Kusanagi
[url=http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=262337][color=red][s]ltmadsen[/s][/color][/url] - Attacking NPO - 2 rounds - Kusanagi
[url=http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=374543][color=red][s]roninbaukki[/s][/color][/url] - Attacking NPO - 2 rounds - Cobra

My records of completed punishment dealt to nations regarding the New Pacific Order since the time I was instated as Secretary of Defense. Luckily, or maybe not for you, I did keep records of such things, you know, as a good habit. Like I said previously apparently your alliance did not, considering your 0 then 2 !@#$%^&*.
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Since you brought up specifics, I'll clarify them a bit more.

[color=red]061mozart123 - Never attacked by VE[/color]
[color=green]Sir.JK - Attacked by VE[/color]
[color=red]bleh32 - Never attacked by VE[/color]
[color=green]Royal Janissary - Attacked by VE[/color]
[color=green]b tard - Attacked by VE[/color]
[color=green]ltmadsen - Attacked by VE[/color]
[color=red]roninbaukki - Never attacked by VE[/color]

All of those are from December 2009, except for bleh32 in January 2010.

We reported a total of 15 attackers in December 2009 alone.

The TT clearly states "For the period of April 13, 2010 to May 20, 2010". Not December.

Like I've been saying for a while already though, VE's record of protecting us was quite a bit better than any of the others.

[Jocko Homo]

Maybe I'm reading too much between the lines but it appears that NPO (through Sir Paul) has taken some issue with MK recently.

I also find this humorous considering NPO batted a perfect ZERO when defending FAN against raiders when we were under their "protection". Actually, it was less than zero since NPO nations themselves started attacking us.

Edited June 20, 2010 by Jocko Homo

[magicninja]

Entertaining I suppose.

[sethb]

Edit: nevermind.

Edited June 20, 2010 by sethb

[Jrenster]

So VE is outraged by Sir Paul's factual mistake that consists of a difference of 0 targets hit and 2 targets hit? Is that why that Antonio person keeps making metaphorical references to feces and woman? Good show I suppose. Just admit that you didn't do a impeccable job of defending NPO for whatever reason. The intention of the piece still remains the same; which is to show that G15 had no desire to protect NPO.

[Antonio Salovega VI]

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In response to:

[quote name='Cortath' date='19 June 2010 - 01:00 PM' timestamp='1276974029' post='2343068']
Ambassador Antonio Salovega IV, let me invite you to sit down with us and have some tea.

You seem to be rather upset about our Tabloid incorrectly reported that you had hit 0 of the 12 targets reported to you, when you had in fact hit 2. I was wondering if you would care to take with me, and discuss how in the world you think hitting 2 of 12 targets is in anyway respectable for an alliance of your military might? Perhaps you would also care to discuss, since I suspect you and yours may bring up the fact that there are a few low NS targets among those 12, why in the world the Viridian Entente and its fourteen (thirteen) friends would ever be so monstrously stupid as to take on an obligation in the terms of surrender that they knew they would be unable to fulfill?

I look forward to taking tea with you, Ambassador. I prefer earl grey double bergamot.
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Comrade Cortath,

Enjoy your Earl Grey Double Bergamot whilst I sip on my Diet Coke.

You are woefully incorrect in your assessment, comrade. As I have explained over and over, I take umbrage at Sir Paul’s lack of honor, integrity, tact etc., etc., ad infinitum. From conversations held in NPO's forums as well as VE's, I was under the impression that the horse was dead, water under the bridge, etc. Possibly an error on my part for here is Sir Paul in the middle of the stream, still beating that same horse. In addition I reasoned that NPO would not officially support an attack on a leader of another alliance by ascribing intentions not in evidence.

Therefore, I felt that this must be Sir Paul’s personal brain child. So I decided that if Sir Paul could unilaterally grab a club, so could I. If Sir Paul felt that the dead horse still needed beating then by Admin I would help him to the utmost.

He stated that that some people were brainless as a scarecrow. Using a different metaphor I pointed to others that shared that same quality.

He mendaciously fabricated evidence of another alliance leader’s intent. In return, I pointed out his own malevolence.

Sir Paul made a retraction and wrote an apology. I simply pointed out that he did it in such a manner so that it did nothing to negate the premise or intent of his propaganda. This makes his apologetic retraction nothing more and nothing less than a deceptive sham and a lie.

He refused to acknowledge the fact that I could be (and in all honesty, I truly am) acting of my own volition. I merely pointed out that if that be the case then his alliance, too, must share the blame for the perceptions – be they correct or otherwise – which his writing engenders.

Since Sir Paul foolishly thinks that I am under orders, does that imply that he is acting under your instructions? If so, Comrade Cortath, how long will you allow this horse be beat? When are you going to surprise the world by taking another tack, differentiating yourself and your alliance from an earlier time? When will Sir Paul be instructed to try to make friends instead of false accusations, baseless innuendos and fabricated allegations? When will the NPO’s past become a stepping stone to the future instead of a tripping stone on a path to controversy, tension, disagreements and conflict?

With inquisitiveness,
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Antonio Salovega VI
Guazabara'guani
Republico de Qinqe

[color="#8B0000"][i][size="1"]The above commentary is the personal opinion of the author and does not reflect the position of his alliance.[/size][/i][/color]

[Jocko Homo]

[quote name='Cortath' date='19 June 2010 - 12:00 PM' timestamp='1276974029' post='2343068']
...snip...why in the world the Viridian Entente and its fourteen (thirteen) friends would ever be so monstrously stupid as to take on an obligation in the terms of surrender that they knew they would be unable to fulfill? ...snip...[/quote]

Of course, there is a difference between being unable and being unwilling. I'm betting the latter based on the NPO's past actions and the rest of the world enjoying watching them being raided and doing nothing but topping off their iced teas and watching it with mild amusement. Or at least that's what I was doing.

[Kalasin]

I must say I'm tremendously amused by Antonio Salovega's posts.

[Corinan]

[quote name='Jocko Homo' date='20 June 2010 - 11:52 PM' timestamp='1277092339' post='2344614']
Of course, there is a difference between being unable and being unwilling. I'm betting the latter based on the NPO's past actions and the rest of the world enjoying watching them being raided and doing nothing but topping off their iced teas and watching it with mild amusement. Or at least that's what I was doing.
[/quote]

Still pretty obsessed with NPO, eh?

[Jesse End]

To be fair Corinan, I agree with him, I also think many of the G15 were just sitting back and enjoying watching us get raided instead of fulfilling their obligation to the terms they signed.

omg NPO agreeing with FAN

[Jocko Homo]

[quote name='Corinan' date='21 June 2010 - 05:24 AM' timestamp='1277123067' post='2345099']
Still pretty obsessed with NPO, eh?
[/quote]
I've been "obsessed" (your word) with them since December of 2008. No reason to stop now.

[quote name='Jesse End' date='22 June 2010 - 11:28 AM' timestamp='1277231284' post='2346767']
To be fair Corinan, I agree with him, I also think many of the G15 were just sitting back and enjoying watching us get raided instead of fulfilling their obligation to the terms they signed.

omg NPO agreeing with FAN [/quote]
Everyone comes around sooner or later.

[King Hendrix]

I applaud the NPO for establishing sovereignty*, but I also must say that much of this was a leap.

[quote]In addition, bragging about taking down the number one alliance – twice, indicates a willingness to do it a third time.
[/quote]
This is a stretch at most. That would be like me saying, "I have climbed Mount Everest twice!" Does this indicate that I'm willing to do this a 3[sup]rd[/sup] time? No. You guys are almost as paranoid as TOP.
[sub]*From an alliance mate that I happen to agree with[/sub]

[Stetson76]

[quote name='Antonio Salovega VI' date='20 June 2010 - 06:38 PM' timestamp='1277077074' post='2344252']
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In response to:



Comrade Cortath,

Enjoy your Earl Grey Double Bergamot whilst I sip on my Diet Coke.

You are woefully incorrect in your assessment, comrade. As I have explained over and over, I take umbrage at Sir Paul’s lack of honor, integrity, tact etc., etc., ad infinitum. From conversations held in NPO's forums as well as VE's, I was under the impression that the horse was dead, water under the bridge, etc. Possibly an error on my part for here is Sir Paul in the middle of the stream, still beating that same horse. In addition I reasoned that NPO would not officially support an attack on a leader of another alliance by ascribing intentions not in evidence.

Therefore, I felt that this must be Sir Paul’s personal brain child. So I decided that if Sir Paul could unilaterally grab a club, so could I. If Sir Paul felt that the dead horse still needed beating then by Admin I would help him to the utmost.

He stated that that some people were brainless as a scarecrow. Using a different metaphor I pointed to others that shared that same quality.

He mendaciously fabricated evidence of another alliance leader’s intent. In return, I pointed out his own malevolence.

Sir Paul made a retraction and wrote an apology. I simply pointed out that he did it in such a manner so that it did nothing to negate the premise or intent of his propaganda. This makes his apologetic retraction nothing more and nothing less than a deceptive sham and a lie.

He refused to acknowledge the fact that I could be (and in all honesty, I truly am) acting of my own volition. I merely pointed out that if that be the case then his alliance, too, must share the blame for the perceptions – be they correct or otherwise – which his writing engenders.

Since Sir Paul foolishly thinks that I am under orders, does that imply that he is acting under your instructions? If so, Comrade Cortath, how long will you allow this horse be beat? When are you going to surprise the world by taking another tack, differentiating yourself and your alliance from an earlier time? When will Sir Paul be instructed to try to make friends instead of false accusations, baseless innuendos and fabricated allegations? When will the NPO’s past become a stepping stone to the future instead of a tripping stone on a path to controversy, tension, disagreements and conflict?

With inquisitiveness,
[IMG]http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r160/qinqe/CN%20Personal/AS6scriptSigBlk.png[/IMG]
Antonio Salovega VI
Guazabara'guani
Republico de Qinqe

[color="#8B0000"][i][size="1"]The above commentary is the personal opinion of the author and does not reflect the position of his alliance.[/size][/i][/color]
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I've gotta tell you, you and Matthew PK must have gone to the same elementary school. The writing style you both have is very similar, all your posts were missing was "Reading Comprehension" as a put down for your targets.

[JoshuaR]

As a neutral observer, I enjoy Sir Paul's witty (and factual*, from that viewpoint) remarks.

On the other hand, Antonio Salovega VI can only manage to call people names. The humor in his insults stems from the over-the-top presentation.


*Ignoring the ONE mistake regarding 2/12 versus 0/12, later edited and corrected.

[Maelstrom Vortex]

[quote name='Thunder Strike' date='12 June 2010 - 12:57 AM' timestamp='1276318630' post='2334601']
That post is quite baffling. Firstly you seem to admit that NPO is not being truthful and using incorrect facts. Then you equate that to freedom of speech. Please tell me what freedom of speech has to do with spreading lies?
Freedom of speech is the right to express ones opinion, not to present incorrect facts and slander people using falsified facts.

And suggesting VE attacks NPO for 'free speech' is just the cherry on the icing of the cake.
[/quote]

And whose version of the truth shall we embrace? I am not even going to get into the metaphysics of this discussion, just note that.. freedom of speech (in my opinion unfortunately) includes the freedom to lie. Otherwise the speech is not free as it is bound by the obligation to tell the truth. Besides.. as some have said before.. sometimes the most interesting way of telling the truth is in the telling of a lie. An apparent deception can make the most beautiful of truths.

Edited June 26, 2010 by Maelstrom Vortex