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[i]Polotsk, Belarus Protectorate[/i]


The various independence movements were getting tired. First [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=76001&view=findpost&p=2301849"]Finland told them to hold an election[/url], then Norway-Sweden said that there needed to be in internal PEPTO vote on whether there should be a referendum with Belarus on whether the protectorate should be independent. After waiting for nearly a month, the people had had enough. There would be a referendum, and it should force the PEPTO and the Slavic Federation to decide what they would be doing with the Protectorate.


*Messages to the World*


Belarus has wished for independence, but the slow workings of PEPTO has been a strain on the patience of the people. With this, we have started a referendum for independence. Any nations are invited to send observers to see if there has been no unfair acts done.




OOC: This has nothing to do with the Red Orchestra or the now-dead Karl Martin. I hope that this will be taken into consideration when voting, and that people vote fairly. Thanks.

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The 4th Airborne, having not yet withdrawn due to continued police actions and aid distribution, has been ordered to keep the peace, with force if necessary, in the protectorate. Civilians are not to be on the streets after 10:00pm. The majority of forces are stationed in the ex-capital of the Slavic Union.

"This movement does not speak for the people of Belrus as far as we can tell at the moment. Talks will begin with the Slavic Federation to see if we can extend the deadline for deployed-force-equalization so that we can ensure that this radical movement does not take place."

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Even though still embroiled in a bloody civil war the Slavorussian Government releases it’s first public statement in months:

It has been the stance of this government for some time that Belarus, and to a lesser extent the Ukrainian provinces should belong to the Slavorussian crown. We have seen fit not to intervene in the endeavors of self-determination and nationalism of the Belorussian and Ukrainian people thus far and shall continue do to so unless the wishes of the people shift. We hope the Slavic Federation and PEPTO will expedite the process of creating an independent Belorussian/Ukrainian State.

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"We believe Belarus has the right to independence just like any other nation in the world. Therefore, we will support the Belarussian independence movement not out of spite but for principle, alone" - Alec Pradeux

SIC:

The Slavic Federation will begin the immediate deployment of two full divisions to Belarus. These divisions will be deployed from Greater Dalmatia. These will be there to ensure the continued peace and stability in the Slavic Federation's district of operations.

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Germany places a nominal amount of troops by the border, to make sure that nothing spills, but does not get involved.

"What we hope is for the Belarussians to be able to fulfill their wishes. Regretfully, it is not clear what these are. We ask for moderation to all parties. Police repression, although important and needed in nature, may set cause an explosion of violence."

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[quote name='Malatose' date='23 May 2010 - 07:24 PM' timestamp='1274667839' post='2309770']
"We believe Belarus has the right to independence just like any other nation in the world. Therefore, we will support the Belarussian independence movement not out of spite but for principle, alone" - Alec Pradeux

SIC:

The Slavic Federation will begin the immediate deployment of two full divisions to Belarus. These divisions will be deployed from Greater Dalmatia. These will be there to ensure the continued peace and stability in the Slavic Federation's district of operations.
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"As do we, but this faction appears to be a radical front, not the will of the Belarussian people. Proper elections should be held, and such things take time."

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[quote name='Kaiser Martens' date='23 May 2010 - 07:29 PM' timestamp='1274668122' post='2309774']
Germany places a nominal amount of troops by the border, to make sure that nothing spills, but does not get involved.

"What we hope is for the Belarussians to be able to fulfill their wishes. Regretfully, it is not clear what these are. We ask for moderation to all parties. Police repression, although important and needed in nature, may set cause an explosion of violence."
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"Current actions of the 4th airborne are simply to keep people off the streets at night. We shall not detain anybody for longer than 24 hours unless necessary. Torture is strictly against Republican Guard regulations, and any soldier caught treating the civilians in any uncalled for negative manner will be punished accordingly. We're trying to keep the peace, not oppress people."

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"Who are you to classify this movement as a form of extreme radicalism? The people of Belarus have grown tired of PEPTO's slow movement towards a decisive decision, regarding their future as a nation and a unified people, as have we. Therefore, we'd be willing to meet with the leaders of the independence movement in the Slavic Federation to discuss a clear course of action for the future."

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"Yes, a joint protectorate, indeed. However, we'd be more than willing to give independence to our sector of operations if we deem it necessary. It is quite obvious that PEPTO only wishes to oppress the people of Belarus. Not free them."

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[quote name='Malatose' date='23 May 2010 - 07:56 PM' timestamp='1274669800' post='2309812']
"Yes, a joint protectorate, indeed. However, we'd be more than willing to give independence to our sector of operations if we deem it necessary. It is quite obvious that PEPTO only wishes to oppress the people of Belarus. Not free them."
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"We are attempting to keep the peace. The reason for the lack of election is the fact that they never provided proof that they had your permission, as it is a joint protectorate."

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"We feel that this new independence front, should it be able to gain the support of the majority of the peoples of Belarus, should not be ignored. Should this new government gain the support of the people it seeks to rule, we see no problem in their ruling. HOWEVER, we are highly disturbed by the lack of patience shown by this faction. A mere five days in hardly a long wait, and as PEPTO holds our use of a voting system in high regard, we, as a member state are unhappy to see it mocked. Also, we feel that you can hardly claim to be a fully democratic movement if you have no patience for Democracy. Keep in mind that this will be taken into account in our support of your nation, should you be voted into power."

Edited by Il Terra Di Agea
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Message from the Belarus Referendum Committee.

"Before more words are exchanged, we wish to say this: We have never undnerstood why PEPTO is in Belarus in the first place, for the Slavic Union formed from the territories that are supposed to be under the jurisdiction of the forming nations of the Slavic Federation.

Setting that aside, we wish that PEPTO would have a consistent policy. Telling to have a election, then clarify it as a referendum, and then starting an internal vote all of a sudden is not something a logical groupd should be doing.

We hope that PEPTO will follow its mandate and work for true peace of Europe, instead of letting imperialist countries declare war without any consequences from the other membership."

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"If the independence movement does not gain support, then so be it. If the independence gains the full support of the people, then they will be able to declare indepedence in the Slavic Federation's geographic jurisdiction. We cannot deny the will of the people."

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[quote name='Il Terra Di Agea' date='23 May 2010 - 09:00 PM' timestamp='1274670011' post='2309818']
"We feel that this new independence front, should it be able to gain the support of the majority of the peoples of Belarus, should not be ignored. Should this new government gain the support of the people it seeks to rule, we see no problem in their ruling. HOWEVER, we are highly disturbed by the lack of patience shown by this faction. A mere five days in hardly a long wait, and as PEPTO holds our use of a voting system in high regard, we, as a member state are unhappy to see it mocked. Also, we feel that you can hardly claim to be a fully democratic movement if you have no patience for Democracy. Keep in mind that this will be taken into account in our support of your nation, should you be voted into power."
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"A mere five days? It's been nearly a month!"


OOC: Following the 1 RL week = 1 RP month formula.

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[quote name='Sarah Tintagyl' date='23 May 2010 - 09:22 PM' timestamp='1274671340' post='2309843']
OOC: I'd like to make this a public poll...please if you voted...state which choice you voted for. Thank you.

(I nulled my vote just to be clear.)
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OOC: It is a public vote, Sarah. Just click on the vote choices, and you'll see who voted.

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[quote name='Karl Martin' date='24 May 2010 - 04:23 AM' timestamp='1274671391' post='2309844']
OOC: It is a public vote, Sarah. Just click on the vote choices, and you'll see who voted.
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OOC: Ah...look at that...yeah...I call shens :P at least for a few of the 'yes' votes.

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