Haflinger Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 [quote name='AirMe' date='20 May 2010 - 07:02 PM' timestamp='1274396519' post='2305910'] Why does this path seem similar to the one that lead us to where we are? [/quote] Similar, yes. Same, no. I do so love this treaty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorost Posted May 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 [quote]Read it and weep, poser [/quote] Wow, I didn't even make the cut! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakamitai Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 o/ to our friends in the Alliance Formerly Known As Invicta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learz Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Yay everyone involved And hails to NPO for being so awesome! [quote name='bakamitai' date='20 May 2010 - 07:11 PM' timestamp='1274397079' post='2305928'] o/ to our friends in the Alliance Formerly Known As Invicta. [/quote] I admit, I lol'ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M6 Redneck Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 About time. Shame other less staunch alliances got to publish NPO treaties before you guys. \M/6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 [quote name='The AUT' date='20 May 2010 - 07:04 PM' timestamp='1274396641' post='2305916'] Because it's the same alliances that fought alongside them when things got rough and they're not signing with the alliances that kept them in captivity for a year and a half for their own good? [/quote] That is not what I meant. You are not one to be objective so I don't expect you to understand my comment at all because you have proven in the past objectivity is beyond your abilities. Change is good though, especially when an alliance is given a clean slate to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyster Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Invicta So many good news in one day. We should make it a national holiday.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 This is almost as surprising as the TPF one~ Congrats guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 [quote name='Banksy' date='20 May 2010 - 07:16 PM' timestamp='1274397365' post='2305941'] This is almost as surprising as the TPF one~ Congrats guys [/quote] The TPF treaty is completely understandable. TPF went to the end for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AUT Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 [quote name='AirMe' date='21 May 2010 - 12:15 AM' timestamp='1274397285' post='2305939'] That is not what I meant. You are not one to be objective so I don't expect you to understand my comment at all because you have proven in the past objectivity is beyond your abilities. Change is good though, especially when an alliance is given a clean slate to work with. [/quote] Well it's true I'm very partial, sorry if I misunderstood your post. Also I quite enjoy this path, it leads to wars and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotty Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 o/ NPO o/ Invicta Great to see together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Invicta, slow as always. Still 4 alliances left on my prediction list. Let's see if I'll get them all right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyster Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 [quote name='AirMe' date='21 May 2010 - 02:17 AM' timestamp='1274397414' post='2305945'] The TPF treaty is completely understandable. TPF went to the end for them. [/quote] You don't need to understand or argue, nor can you do anything. We just like Invicta, they seem to like us, just like TPF or NATO or NSO. And we're just letting you know if you attack them, we're by their side and vice versa. I don't understand what's your problem. As I said, we just liek each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Fingolfin Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 [quote name='AirMe' date='20 May 2010 - 07:02 PM' timestamp='1274396519' post='2305910'] Why does this path seem similar to the one that lead us to where we are? [/quote] Give them some time. I have reserved hope yet. They didn't really have much of an option other than to do this, I doubt an NPO-Ronin or a NPO-MK or an NPO-RoK treaty was exactly waiting for the wings for them if they wanted it. I guess we'll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 [quote name='Lord Fingolfin' date='20 May 2010 - 07:20 PM' timestamp='1274397640' post='2305959'] Give them some time. I have reserved hope yet. They didn't really have much of an option other than to do this, I doubt an NPO-Ronin or a NPO-MK or an NPO-RoK treaty was exactly waiting for the wings for them if they wanted it. I guess we'll see [/quote] You'd be surprised what Ronin would have been willing to do had the effort had been there........don't get me wrong, we are by no means a major player. But again, you'd be surprised how far a little bit of effort can get you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 [quote name='Lord Brendan' date='21 May 2010 - 12:19 PM' timestamp='1274397522' post='2305950'] Invicta, slow as always. Still 4 alliances left on my prediction list. Let's see if I'll get them all right. [/quote] But where is the protectorate with MK? :iiam: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathcat Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 (edited) Congrats to my friends in NPO and Invicta.. May the chuckles be yours to share for a loooooooooooong time oo/ [quote name='AirMe' date='20 May 2010 - 04:22 PM' timestamp='1274397749' post='2305962'] You'd be surprised what Ronin would have been willing to do had the effort had been there........don't get me wrong, we are by no means a major player. But again, you'd be surprised how far a little bit of effort can get you. [/quote] Edit to quote this AirMe... [b]I[/b] don't doubt that you'd go the distance for an ally Edited May 20, 2010 by deathcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AUT Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 [quote name='AirMe' date='21 May 2010 - 12:22 AM' timestamp='1274397749' post='2305962'] You'd be surprised what Ronin would have been willing to do had the effort had been there........don't get me wrong, we are by no means a major player. But again, you'd be surprised how far a little bit of effort can get you. [/quote] Yes but the intent was to sign with their friends rather than potential friends. Sometimes friendship doesn't require effort, just a little love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentkiller Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 [quote name='AirMe' date='21 May 2010 - 12:22 AM' timestamp='1274397749' post='2305962'] You'd be surprised what Ronin would have been willing to do had the effort had been there........don't get me wrong, we are by no means a major player. But again, you'd be surprised how far a little bit of effort can get you. [/quote] Hey Airme, I think you are a swell dude. Want a treaty? Also please change your name back to Invicta, it's kind of hard to remember the new name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Lord Fingolfin' date='20 May 2010 - 07:20 PM' timestamp='1274397640' post='2305959'] They didn't really have much of an option other than to do this, I doubt an NPO-Ronin or a NPO-MK or an NPO-RoK treaty was exactly waiting for the wings for them if they wanted it. I guess we'll see. [/quote] Not sure I agree, just look at the example of the New Polar Order, who only had half as much time to build new relationships. I don't think the NpO-RoK or NpO-Val treaties were "waiting in the wings" either. I'll be rather disappointed if NPO doesn't sign with at least one new ally that I didn't expect. Not that I would necessarily have recommended such a course of action for the Pacific, I just contest the idea that their only option was re-signing with their old allies. Edited May 20, 2010 by Lord Brendan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 [quote name='The AUT' date='20 May 2010 - 07:25 PM' timestamp='1274397911' post='2305968'] Yes but the intent was to sign with their friends rather than potential friends. Sometimes friendship doesn't require effort, just a little love. [/quote] As you stated, they had a year and a half to build relations. Every time MK was under terms, our diplos were out attempting to make new friends. [quote name='silentkiller' date='20 May 2010 - 07:25 PM' timestamp='1274397917' post='2305969'] Hey Airme, I think you are a swell dude. Want a treaty? Also please change your name back to Invicta, it's kind of hard to remember the new name. [/quote] A treaty with Ronin requires a metric ton more effort than that. Ask Gondor how long it took to get an OMP done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AUT Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 [quote name='AirMe' date='21 May 2010 - 12:27 AM' timestamp='1274398035' post='2305980'] As you stated, they had a year and a half to build relations. Every time MK was under terms, our diplos were out attempting to make new friends. [/quote] I get that, although NPO felt so hurt it didn't want to re-ally those that betrayed them? I know Ronin doesn't fit under that but you are heavily tied to those they felt betrayed by. Although I don't think it's exactly the same, NPO has stated it wants to be more careful with who they treaty with. Isn't that change enough? The NPO power base will be massively curtailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 [quote name='AirMe' date='20 May 2010 - 06:02 PM' timestamp='1274396519' post='2305910'] Why does this path seem similar to the one that lead us to where we are? [/quote] Second verse, same as the the first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 [quote name='The AUT' date='20 May 2010 - 07:31 PM' timestamp='1274398298' post='2305987'] I get that, although NPO felt so hurt it didn't want to re-ally those that betrayed them? I know Ronin doesn't fit under that but you are heavily tied to those they felt betrayed by. Although I don't think it's exactly the same, NPO has stated it wants to be more careful with who they treaty with. Isn't that change enough? The NPO power base will be massively curtailed. [/quote] I am allied to OSA, Genesis, MK, =LOST= and Gondor, who exactly in that group betrayed NPO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 (edited) Lets not derail this thread. First off, we didn't even finish one full day out of terms, so saying how its going to be like this with our path, or like that is an incredibly silly thing. Secondly, honestly, we have handful of friends and everybody knew who they were so I dont understand any upheaval about this. It is an expected and joyful (for us) moment and we are happy about this all after a year. Edited May 20, 2010 by Branimir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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