Sargun II Posted May 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 [quote name='Il Terra Di Agea' date='16 May 2010 - 12:12 PM' timestamp='1274029940' post='2299947'] And me. Ceuta, cough cough. Also I could easily do propaganda for my side, were I to join. [/quote] You have a limited military presence that we control in Ceuta. I wouldn't exactly call it a border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Zoot Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 Sargun, read my first few posts of my cold war thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzydog Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 I'll be an unbiased source. Just please get me int something, its very boring being left out. And besides, you are very close to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted May 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 At this point I'd really like to look for combatants. If nobody will volunteer, then I ask ITDA to work with me to make a legit reason for a war, preferably something that has to do with Ceuta. Then we can get to work on sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzydog Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 I would, but I don't have many allies. Maybe I can be against someone invading, saying its a no no? I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Wilding Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 [quote name='Sargun' date='16 May 2010 - 02:50 PM' timestamp='1274035818' post='2300077'] At this point I'd really like to look for combatants. If nobody will volunteer, then I ask ITDA to work with me to make a legit reason for a war, preferably something that has to do with Ceuta. Then we can get to work on sides. [/quote] Sargun, I volunteered to war anyone. Seriously. :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted May 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 [quote name='Markus Wilding' date='16 May 2010 - 03:24 PM' timestamp='1274041480' post='2300207'] Sargun, I volunteered to war anyone. Seriously. :| [/quote] The point isn't to have a random war, Markus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted May 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 (edited) Two combatants have been found. Timeline to war goes like this: [spoiler] Sargun--> Terrorists from Carthage attack Ceuta, not affiliated with Carthage government ITDA--> Government trys to get an apology, and makes a request to enter Carthage to search for the terrorists, as Carthage was not monitoring their own people Sargun--> Refuses, there is no proof that they are Carthaginian citizens ITDA--> Terrorists were spotted driving over the border from Carthage Sargun--> Open border policy in regards to Unity Island means that they could be from anywhere ITDA--> Begrudgingly accepts that this is going nowhere, beefs up border patrol Sargun--> Terrorists plan to Assassinate President of Ceuta ITDA--> Knows nothing Sargun--> Terrorists build a bomb, which fails to work ITDA--> Ceuta President is evacuated to a safe house outside the city Sargun--> Terrorists spread out to try and get alibis, to ensure that they don't seem responsible, so they can attack again in the future ITDA--> President gets fed up with his confined living space and demands to be taken to his favorite restaurant for a quick lunch, as he's getting stir crazy Sargun--> One of the terrorists, infuriated with his comrades' failure, decides to cool off by getting a quick drink from a nearby restaurant ITDA--> President orders his favorite meal, and sits down at the back of the restaurant Sargun--> Terrorist sees the President, pulls a gun, and shoots ITDA--> Terrorist is immediatly apprehended by Militia members Sargun--> Terrorist is taken to prison; Carthaginian government demands turnover of terrorist ITDA--> Terrorist is interogatted, slightly tortured Sargun--> Gives up a bit of information ITDA--> Demand Carthage government give up information on the man, as well as his counterparts, as well as the ability to search for, and imprison the assassin's fellow terrorists Sargun--> Willing to give up information on the man, and allow in investigation, but rendering suspects to Norway is declined ITDA--> Paranoia grows, it would not be the first time the Carthage declared war, maybe this is a coverup of an attempt to destabilize the region and then invade Sargun--> Act like an $@! to Norway-swedish investigators, be uncooperative ITDA--> Get more and more on edge Sargun--> Investigator gets shot during an operation, ballistics match it to a Carthage Police issue firearm ITDA--> Get pissed Sargun--> Say pistols are widespread, standard Artemis Group issue, and ask for bullet markings ITDA--> Hands over markings, but keeps bullet Sargun--> Matches markings to a police officer who did not show up for work for the past week ITDA--> Believes that Carthage forged records and is harboring the terrorist Sargun--> Does not know where he is; enraged by accusation and refuses to turn over remaining terrorists ITDA--> Ultimatum issued to give up the terrorists, demand apology, dismiss NAP, violate agreement on armed forces Sargun--> Preliminary strike on Ceuta, before the Ultimatum expires WAR [/spoiler] Edited May 16, 2010 by Sargun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzydog Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 Once again, I said I'll join. I'm awfully close and my anti offensive war no no stand would make sense. But fi you deny htis I'll be fine. *sob* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 (edited) Sign me up as Norway's ally, we're fairly good allies and I've supported him in Africa before. Chances are I'd only deploy my 4 Airborne divisions and some special forces to the region. What happens to Mykep? Does "Not too harsh terms" mean he gets to run the country when you're gone? Edited May 16, 2010 by BaronUberstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 [quote name='BaronUberstein' date='16 May 2010 - 04:12 PM' timestamp='1274051526' post='2300553'] Sign me up as Norway's ally, we're fairly good allies and I've supported him in Africa before. Chances are I'd only deploy my 4 Airborne divisions and some special forces to the region. What happens to Mykep? Does "Not too harsh terms" mean he gets to run the country when you're gone? [/quote] The terms for Sargun could be permanent removal of the Peacehearts from power. Anyway, as Australian nations have often served as such in the past, I could offer to be the neutral nation everyone convenes in for the conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Wilding Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 I can support Carthage? :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzydog Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 [quote name='Markus Wilding' date='16 May 2010 - 06:58 PM' timestamp='1274054307' post='2300610'] I can support Carthage? :3 [/quote] You suck up. But I Sargs, if I can get anythign in this I wil be happy. Even *shudder* unbiased news source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted May 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 [quote name='Fizzydog' date='16 May 2010 - 05:08 PM' timestamp='1274047694' post='2300398'] Once again, I said I'll join. I'm awfully close and my anti offensive war no no stand would make sense. But fi you deny htis I'll be fine. *sob* [/quote] Again, the point isn't just to join willy-nilly. Now that we've established the two main combatants, we can get around to finding suitable allies for each. Now, if there is a legitimate IC reason to back up your alliance with another person and entry into war, you'll be put into consideration with the rest. [quote name='BaronUberstein' date='16 May 2010 - 06:12 PM' timestamp='1274051526' post='2300553'] Sign me up as Norway's ally, we're fairly good allies and I've supported him in Africa before. Chances are I'd only deploy my 4 Airborne divisions and some special forces to the region. What happens to Mykep? Does "Not too harsh terms" mean he gets to run the country when you're gone? [/quote] You're at the top of the list. [quote name='Subtleknifewielder' date='16 May 2010 - 06:45 PM' timestamp='1274053492' post='2300594'] The terms for Sargun could be permanent removal of the Peacehearts from power. Anyway, as Australian nations have often served as such in the past, I could offer to be the neutral nation everyone convenes in for the conference. [/quote] The terms for Norway could be as simple as permanent removal of Ceutan presence or as harsh as a land cession to a nearby ally. We've yet to determine who will win or what terms will be because we do not know the full extent of allies involved or how the war will go down. As of right now we have Centurius and Subtle for neutral nations to host the conference. Both are taken in for consideration, draw out a legit IC reaction to a spoiler from above and it'll help a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDCJT Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 (edited) As I'm not allied to either Carthage or Norway, I would be neutral in this conflict, but President Richard Mercton will have a heck of a time watching the war unfold from a safe distance. Like a movie theater, but even more epic. That, and I wouldn't mind hosting the conference. If J Andres is chosen as a site, then I would offer the cities of Providence or Mercton (anything to boost Richard's ego, lol). :3 Edited May 17, 2010 by JEDCJT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzydog Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Well, I would still like to be a news source. But, since I am for peace and all I could be against you attacking nations or something. Sorry, I'm just desperate for RPs. d: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingChris Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Well, could I be a third biased source? With my new Communist government, it would be VERY handy! If not, think I could have private citizens sell themselves to belligerents as mercenaries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Can I be the Green Cross? Heh, heh. (stoner face) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 I wouldn't mind doing the Red Cross relief organization based out of the U.S. I'm trying to be isolationist at this time. (Imagine me.. an isolationist.. the irony.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 [quote name='Sargun' date='16 May 2010 - 05:09 PM' timestamp='1274054925' post='2300623'] The terms for Norway could be as simple as permanent removal of Ceutan presence or as harsh as a land cession to a nearby ally. We've yet to determine who will win or what terms will be because we do not know the full extent of allies involved or how the war will go down. As of right now we have Centurius and Subtle for neutral nations to host the conference. Both are taken in for consideration, draw out a legit IC reaction to a spoiler from above and it'll help a lot. [/quote] Naturally the Queendom would condemn any acts of terrorism, but it would counsel both sides to refrain from acts that could inflame the situation. When the war breaks out, the Queendom would condemn the violence, and express a wish that it would notfurther escalate. Australia would not wish to see what happened to Brisbane happen anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 [quote name='Sargun' date='17 May 2010 - 02:09 AM' timestamp='1274054925' post='2300623'] As of right now we have Centurius and Subtle for neutral nations to host the conference. Both are taken in for consideration, draw out a legit IC reaction to a spoiler from above and it'll help a lot. [/quote] Upon news of the terrorist attacks the Athenian Federation publicly announces condemnation of the attacks but will await the result of an investigation on the issue, when the President gets assassinated and the terrorist arrested the Athenian Federation will announce its intent to serve as an arbitrator to the issue citing as European it is familiar with Norway and as Mediterranean can understand Carthage. At that point the Federation will propose a compromise on the investigation where information is provided and investigation allowed however without extraditions. Upon the killing of the investigator the Federation will propose a few dozen Peacekeepers to patrol the border between the 2 nations and prevent further killing while trying to arrange another compromise between Carthage and Norway. Upon the ultimatum being issued Peacekeepers will withdraw and diplomatic attempts will be made to get a mutually accepted arrangement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted May 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 [quote name='Subtleknifewielder' date='17 May 2010 - 06:13 AM' timestamp='1274094817' post='2301128'] Naturally the Queendom would condemn any acts of terrorism, but it would counsel both sides to refrain from acts that could inflame the situation. When the war breaks out, the Queendom would condemn the violence, and express a wish that it would notfurther escalate. Australia would not wish to see what happened to Brisbane happen anywhere else. [/quote] Good. [quote name='Centurius' date='17 May 2010 - 03:39 PM' timestamp='1274128740' post='2301432'] Upon news of the terrorist attacks the Athenian Federation publicly announces condemnation of the attacks but will await the result of an investigation on the issue, when the President gets assassinated and the terrorist arrested the Athenian Federation will announce its intent to serve as an arbitrator to the issue citing as European it is familiar with Norway and as Mediterranean can understand Carthage. At that point the Federation will propose a compromise on the investigation where information is provided and investigation allowed however without extraditions. Upon the killing of the investigator the Federation will propose a few dozen Peacekeepers to patrol the border between the 2 nations and prevent further killing while trying to arrange another compromise between Carthage and Norway. Upon the ultimatum being issued Peacekeepers will withdraw and diplomatic attempts will be made to get a mutually accepted arrangement. [/quote] Very good. Cent, you're hired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Ah well, the important thing is you have someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted May 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 [quote name='Subtleknifewielder' date='17 May 2010 - 04:50 PM' timestamp='1274133030' post='2301496'] Ah well, the important thing is you have someone. [/quote] Subtle You're always welcome to be a humanitarian provider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Sargun' date='17 May 2010 - 02:52 PM' timestamp='1274133137' post='2301497'] [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif[/img] Subtle [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif[/img] You're always welcome to be a humanitarian provider [/quote] I'll probably help with the white cross, or outright take over its operations if Sarah gets busy. Edited May 17, 2010 by Subtleknifewielder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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