Rebel Virginia Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 [quote name='Darksol' date='12 May 2010 - 10:32 PM' timestamp='1273717955' post='2296562'] Looks like you're defending him right there. Any other duplicitous comments you'd like to make, RV? [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]I know how to read. It seems you made some comments to him, about some people he knew, that he didn't like. Instead of taking your nonsense and just pouting in a corner he decided to do something about it. Doesn't matter what happened. Or who is right. We can simply deduce that Salithus thought he was wronged, and he stood up for himself and his principles. I can respect that. Also, before you try to plead innocent know this. You won't fool anyone. People know how abusive the members of GOONS are. You're an alliance that lacks maturity and many other traits found in respectable people. We know the things you're capable of, and based on the tidbit I learned and shared with some people earlier, you are reminding me of the /b/ of old.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smacky Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Get well soon goonies, I'd hate for an unfortunate thing like this distract you from the holy work of raiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainImpavid Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I'm torn between my reluctance to cheer the GOONS on and my sheer, unabated glee at misfortune for salthius. If this turns out to have not been true I'll be forced to resort to arson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennox Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 All hail the GOONS. Salithus, NSO is waiting for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 [quote name='CaptainImpavid' date='12 May 2010 - 10:47 PM' timestamp='1273718831' post='2296571'] I'm torn between my reluctance to cheer the GOONS on and my sheer, unabated glee at misfortune for salthius. If this turns out to have not been true I'll be forced to resort to arson. [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]How about you just do what I do and take pleasure in the bad luck of both parties?[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choson Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 [quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='12 May 2010 - 10:38 PM' timestamp='1273718312' post='2296567'] [color="#0000FF"]I know how to read. It seems you made some comments to him, about some people he knew, that he didn't like. Instead of taking your nonsense and just pouting in a corner he decided to do something about it. Doesn't matter what happened. Or who is right. We can simply deduce that Salithus thought he was wronged, and he stood up for himself and his principles. I can respect that. Also, before you try to plead innocent know this. You won't fool anyone. People know how abusive the members of GOONS are. You're an alliance that lacks maturity and many other traits found in respectable people. We know the things you're capable of, and based on the tidbit I learned and shared with some people earlier, you are reminding me of the /b/ of old.[/color] [/quote] Yes, because no one is capable of lying, RV. Obviously, while saying that it doesn't matter what happens or who's right, you throw us under the bus with no proof to back up your allegations. The one who is lacking maturity is yourself. You are not respectable due to the fact that you jump to conclusions and feel the need to interject your personal vendetta against us as established fact. It is you who has no scruples when it comes to anything that GOONS does, be it a positive act or a negative act. You constantly try to spin events into your own "history" of the events. You talk about GOONS being abusive, did you ever stop and consider that your constant verbal attacks against GOONS could be an act of abuse as well? Of course not, you're always right and we're always wrong, about everything, period. Either back up your allegations that we wronged Salithus and that we made comments to him or about him that he didn't like, or stop talking. Your useless prattle is only to incite and brings nothing useful to the conversation at hand. As someone who proudly served in "Old GOONS", I know what /b/ was like and we are nothing like them. OOC: For someone who doesn't like OOC actions or retaliation, you're pretty darn happy about something that happened OOC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktarthan Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 [quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='12 May 2010 - 07:38 PM' timestamp='1273718312' post='2296567'] [color="#0000FF"]I know how to read. It seems you made some comments to him, about some people he knew, that he didn't like. Instead of taking your nonsense and just pouting in a corner he decided to do something about it. Doesn't matter what happened. Or who is right. We can simply deduce that Salithus thought he was wronged, and he stood up for himself and his principles. I can respect that. Also, before you try to plead innocent know this. You won't fool anyone. People know how abusive the members of GOONS are. You're an alliance that lacks maturity and many other traits found in respectable people. We know the things you're capable of, and based on the tidbit I learned and shared with some people earlier, you are reminding me of the /b/ of old.[/color] [/quote] So you're going to jump to conclusions about a situation based on the farewell message of someone who is obviously on a mission to burn bridges [i]before[/i] actually learning anything from other involved parties? Well, I guess it does give you a good opportunity to jab at GOONS, so fair enough. And, how abusive are the members of GOONS, exactly? I'm sure not [i]everyone[/i] knows, so maybe you could be a little more specific and educate those who have not had the misfortune of dealing with us. As well, about the tidbit you've shared, it is 100% circumstantial when trying to link it with GOONS, so do not be so hasty in pinning it on us as a fact. However, I will be personally investigating the matter within GOONS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuotingTheCrow Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 [quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='12 May 2010 - 09:38 PM' timestamp='1273718312' post='2296567'] [color="#0000FF"]I know how to read. It seems you made some comments to him, about some people he knew, that he didn't like. Instead of taking your nonsense and just pouting in a corner he decided to do something about it. Doesn't matter what happened. Or who is right. We can simply deduce that Salithus thought he was wronged, and he stood up for himself and his principles. I can respect that. Also, before you try to plead innocent know this. You won't fool anyone. People know how abusive the members of GOONS are. You're an alliance that lacks maturity and many other traits found in respectable people. We know the things you're capable of, and based on the tidbit I learned and shared with some people earlier, you are reminding me of the /b/ of old.[/color] [/quote] Actually, most goons I've come into contact with (on here and ooc: other games) have been pretty much able to laugh at themselves. Which I would much rather have than a group of stiff "mature adults" that can't see the fun in prodding people. Goons are perfectly reasonable as long as you don't give them a reason not to be. tbh, if you think that goons and any resurrection of /b/ are remotely similar you are obviously pushing an agenda. Then again, you are RV and have admitted to such in the past. Sometimes I wonder why it's okay for you to voice how you'd love to see goons crushed, but they can't say they'd like for fear to be destroyed without getting page long non-sense replies from you. Then I remember that you're delusional and I stop caring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 This is pretty low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwoody Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I'm getting aboard the "staged" wagon. Gut feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 [quote name='Darksol' date='12 May 2010 - 10:53 PM' timestamp='1273719186' post='2296578'] Yes, because no one is capable of lying, RV. Obviously, while saying that it doesn't matter what happens or who's right, you throw us under the bus with no proof to back up your allegations. The one who is lacking maturity is yourself. You are not respectable due to the fact that you jump to conclusions and feel the need to interject your personal vendetta against us as established fact. It is you who has no scruples when it comes to anything that GOONS does, be it a positive act or a negative act. You constantly try to spin events into your own "history" of the events. You talk about GOONS being abusive, did you ever stop and consider that your constant verbal attacks against GOONS could be an act of abuse as well? Of course not, you're always right and we're always wrong, about everything, period. Either back up your allegations that we wronged Salithus and that we made comments to him or about him that he didn't like, or stop talking. Your useless prattle is only to incite and brings nothing useful to the conversation at hand. As someone who proudly served in "Old GOONS", I know what /b/ was like and we are nothing like them. OOC: For someone who doesn't like OOC actions or retaliation, you're pretty darn happy about something that happened OOC. [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]There is a bit of truth to every lie. I've known for awhile that one of GOONS' founders, either Salithus or Sardonic, was bound to throw a fit and leave. Seems that rumor was true, but there must have been a reason for it. There must have been some resentment causing you to insult him to the point he did this. Also, I never said you wronged Salithus. I said Salithus felt you wronged him. Can you deny that? As for me abusing you.... Grow a spin. For an alliance that likes to act so tough learn to take criticism. And yes, you have a lot in common with /b/. No wait, your humor is much "higher class." Like the little prank you pulled on Che after his alliance signed with FEAR. If anyone wants to hear about that, ask either Ernesto Che Guevara or myself.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktarthan Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 [quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='12 May 2010 - 08:02 PM' timestamp='1273719718' post='2296591'] [color="#0000FF"]There is a bit of truth to every lie. I've known for awhile that one of GOONS' founders, either Salithus or Sardonic, was bound to throw a fit and leave. Seems that rumor was true, but there must have been a reason for it. There must have been some resentment causing you to insult him to the point he did this. Also, I never said you wronged Salithus. I said Salithus felt you wronged him. Can you deny that? As for me abusing you.... Grow a spin. For an alliance that likes to act so tough learn to take criticism. And yes, you have a lot in common with /b/. No wait, your humor is much "higher class." Like the little prank you pulled on Che after his alliance signed with FEAR. If anyone wants to hear about that, ask either Ernesto Che Guevara or myself.[/color] [/quote] RV, your ability to predict the past is as amazing as ever. Salithus [i]said[/i] he felt that we wronged him. There is no proof to suggest that there was anything for him to feel wronged by. He just demolished our forums with no warning - why would you take his word? As for Che? No need for people to ask in private. We changed his visible mask back to the default "Stupid Newbie" when he signed with FEAR. We didn't change his posting ability or anything. Oh dear we're so terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choson Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 [quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='12 May 2010 - 11:02 PM' timestamp='1273719718' post='2296591'] [color="#0000FF"]There is a bit of truth to every lie. I've known for awhile that one of GOONS' founders, either Salithus or Sardonic, was bound to throw a fit and leave. Seems that rumor was true, but there must have been a reason for it. There must have been some resentment causing you to insult him to the point he did this. Also, I never said you wronged Salithus. I said Salithus felt you wronged him. Can you deny that? As for me abusing you.... Grow a spin. For an alliance that likes to act so tough learn to take criticism. And yes, you have a lot in common with /b/. No wait, your humor is much "higher class." Like the little prank you pulled on Che after his alliance signed with FEAR. If anyone wants to hear about that, ask either Ernesto Che Guevara or myself.[/color] [/quote] We take criticism fine. What we won't stand for is blatant slander of our alliance. So if someone throws a fit, we're automatically to blame, even though you have no proof as to what took place and you're only throwing out wild guesses as to what happened? Let's hear your side of the story in regards to Che. Obviously, you're in cahoots with everyone who's had some sort of issue with us. What's the real poop behind it? Is it as banal as ktarthan posted, or are you going to come up with some wild, salacious story so that you can feel good about dragging us through the mud for your own sadistic pleasure? I implore you to be forthright about what happened in regards to Salithus since obviously you know more about it than us. Enlighten us, so we can inform the rest of our members about what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrie Melodies Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I demand more NowaCorp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 (edited) [quote name='QuotingTheCrow' date='12 May 2010 - 10:57 PM' timestamp='1273719423' post='2296582'] Actually, most goons I've come into contact with (on here and ooc: other games) have been pretty much able to laugh at themselves. Which I would much rather have than a group of stiff "mature adults" that can't see the fun in prodding people. Goons are perfectly reasonable as long as you don't give them a reason not to be. tbh, if you think that goons and any resurrection of /b/ are remotely similar you are obviously pushing an agenda. Then again, you are RV and have admitted to such in the past. Sometimes I wonder why it's okay for you to voice how you'd love to see goons crushed, but they can't say they'd like for fear to be destroyed without getting page long non-sense replies from you. Then I remember that you're delusional and I stop caring. [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]I certainly do have an agenda, and so does GOONS and everyone else. Nice try though.[/color] [quote name='ktarthan' date='12 May 2010 - 10:54 PM' timestamp='1273719243' post='2296580'] So you're going to jump to conclusions about a situation based on the farewell message of someone who is obviously on a mission to burn bridges [i]before[/i] actually learning anything from other involved parties? Well, I guess it does give you a good opportunity to jab at GOONS, so fair enough. And, how abusive are the members of GOONS, exactly? I'm sure not [i]everyone[/i] knows, so maybe you could be a little more specific and educate those who have not had the misfortune of dealing with us. As well, about the tidbit you've shared, it is 100% circumstantial when trying to link it with GOONS, so do not be so hasty in pinning it on us as a fact. However, I will be personally investigating the matter within GOONS. [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]I came to no conclusions. I merely made a observation that Salithus felt wrong and decided to do GOONS over. I commend him for his balls. As for GOONS abusive nature, during the Methrage incident Sargun gave him 3 mil. You demanded 20 mil from CoJ. That was excessive, and were it not for babyjesus it would not have been pushed down. You also tried to get me rolled for simply trading with someone. Not to mentioned how you tried to get OcUK rolled after they stood up to you. You tech raided them. They didn't like it and didn't take it. Don't try to sweetheart me. We all know you're bullies and cowards at heart. And circumstantial....I don't care for legalistic nonsense. I am man interested in justice. We all know you did it. You can claim Methrage did it to himself all you want, and that there is know why to prove it (which is what you're trying to imply), but we all know a lie when we see one. The truth will come out. Let us see you try to weasel your way out of that.[/color] [quote name='ktarthan' date='12 May 2010 - 11:07 PM' timestamp='1273720056' post='2296596'] RV, your ability to predict the past is as amazing as ever. Salithus [i]said[/i] he felt that we wronged him. There is no proof to suggest that there was anything for him to feel wronged by. He just demolished our forums with no warning - why would you take his word? As for Che? No need for people to ask in private. We changed his visible mask back to the default "Stupid Newbie" when he signed with FEAR. We didn't change his posting ability or anything. Oh dear we're so terrible. [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]I never said Salithus was right. I never said he was wrong. That is you putting words in my mouth. I merely commended him for doing something to GOONS. As for Che, that's not all you did. Way to leave out the vile thing you put in his signature on that forum.[/color] Edited May 13, 2010 by Rebel Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan King Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I'm really torn here. I really don't like GOONS and I would not lament being rid of them. However, no one deserves having their homebase nuked. So I guess I'll just say, "GOONS, I hope you get your home back up soon so you live to die another day." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Dresden Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I'm moving this to the Open World RP due to the OOC nature of the OP and some of the following posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='12 May 2010 - 10:18 PM' timestamp='1273720712' post='2296605'] [color="#0000ff"]As for GOONS abusive nature, during the Methrage incident Sargun gave him 3 mil. You demanded 20 mil from CoJ. That was excessive, and were it not for babyjesus it would not have been pushed down. [/color] [/quote] I believe that in the beginning the reps were far, far lower, then somebody gave Methrage secret aid and he acquired nuclear weapons. Since I was the only one with a name on the aid list I was thus not only partially responsible for his new nukes but now solely responsible. Not exactly a good comparison to make there, buddy. Edited May 13, 2010 by Sargun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Garabage Day??.....NO...NO...! *gunshot* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Sargun' date='12 May 2010 - 11:27 PM' timestamp='1273721209' post='2296619'] I believe that in the beginning the reps were far, far lower, then somebody gave Methrage secret aid and he acquired nuclear weapons. Since I was the only one with a name on the aid list I was thus not only partially responsible for his new nukes but now solely responsible. Not exactly a good comparison to make there, buddy. [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]Come again? I was merely citing that as an example of where GOONS attempted to extort and unreasonable amount of money from a small alliance.[/color] Edited May 13, 2010 by Rebel Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuotingTheCrow Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 [quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='12 May 2010 - 10:30 PM' timestamp='1273721409' post='2296629'] [color="#0000FF"]Come again? I was merely citing that as an example of where GOONS attempted to extort and unreasonable amount of money from a small alliance.[/color] [/quote] And the person you cited called you on it for being incredibly one-sided and false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I really don't see that kicking a dog while it's down accomplishes much. I will withhold judgment on this one until more details come forth from all concerned parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choson Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 [quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='12 May 2010 - 11:18 PM' timestamp='1273720712' post='2296605'] [color="#0000FF"]I certainly do have an agenda, and so does GOONS and everyone else. Nice try though.[/color] [color="#0000FF"]I came to no conclusions. I merely made a observation that Salithus felt wrong and decided to do GOONS over. I commend him for his balls. As for GOONS abusive nature, during the Methrage incident Sargun gave him 3 mil. You demanded 20 mil from CoJ. That was excessive, and were it not for babyjesus it would not have been pushed down. You also tried to get me rolled for simply trading with someone. Not to mentioned how you tried to get OcUK rolled after they stood up to you. You tech raided them. They didn't like it and didn't take it. Don't try to sweetheart me. We all know you're bullies and cowards at heart. And circumstantial....I don't care for legalistic nonsense. I am man interested in justice. We all know you did it. You can claim Methrage did it to himself all you want, and that there is know why to prove it (which is what you're trying to imply), but we all know a lie when we see one. The truth will come out. Let us see you try to weasel your way out of that.[/color] [color="#0000FF"]I never said Salithus was right. I never said he was wrong. That is you putting words in my mouth. I merely commended him for doing something to GOONS. As for Che, that's not all you did. Way to leave out the vile thing you put in his signature on that forum.[/color] [/quote] How is it abusive to ask for reparations for aiding a known enemy of our alliance? Especially when that someone calls you out on it and yet you still disregard it. They took responsibility for it. There you go, slandering us again, calling us bullies and cowards. If we're so full of cowardice, why don't you step up to the plate and do something about it? You won't. You're the one hiding behind blustery statements and long-winded empty assertions of acts our alliance allegedly as done. Notice how you bring up one issue, Che, and then you move right on to another one as soon as we refute your claims and grind your lies into the dirt. It takes balls to take your toys and run home? Where's the pride, honor or chivalrousness in that? It shows that that person deserved no respect or admiration. That is the cowardice that you try to pin to our alliance and yet Salithus exhibited that very quality and you dump admiration and praise upon his unworthy shoulders. And you're absolutely right, we all know a lie when we see one. It's when you open your mouth and try to pin unfounded and untrue allegations against GOONS. Yes, you did come to conclusions, you assumed that GOONS did something against Salithus. You offer no proof of your statements being true. Only open ended allegations that you're spinning from your own deluded point of view. Your vendetta against us has blinded you and you can only see what you want to see, not the truth, be it good or bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 [quote name='QuotingTheCrow' date='12 May 2010 - 11:34 PM' timestamp='1273721625' post='2296638'] And the person you cited called you on it for being incredibly one-sided and false. [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]The people I've spoken to have informed me that the initial reps were 20 mil and some tech, but they were lowered to 8 mil and some tech after pressure from babyjesus.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Empress Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Well, that's unfortunate. Good luck getting things back in working order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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