Rooman33 Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Biff Webster' date='06 May 2010 - 05:49 PM' timestamp='1273182578' post='2289350']Given that you are still a "team protectorate", would you have to ask VE's permission to engage in aggressive action against a perceived threat to the GOP?[/quote] No, we don't "have to ask permission." Common courtesy suggests that we'd consult their opinion, but we've made it clear to everyone that we will act in accordance with our own laws and values and if, in so doing, our protectors disagree with our actions we will - as we've done in the past - tell them that they are free of their obligation to protect us. Our sovereignty cannot and will not be compromised. [quote]Would you solicit and accept aid from outside parties to take action against perceived threats?[/quote] Solicit? Not in any official capacity - I can't speak to what friends will chatter about in back channels. Accept aid? Other alliances are free to do as they please - just as we are. If they choose to offer aid, we reserve the right to accept it with the understanding that there will be no strings attached (i.e. returned political favors, treaties, etc.). Our charter and DoN state that we will not interfere in the wars or political affairs of other alliances. Accepting aid during the course of our own war does not constitute a violation of our soft(line) neutrality because there is neither an expectation nor obligation for reciprocation. [quote]Why are otherworldly ideologies a part of your charter?[/quote] Conservatism is a major tenant in our every day interaction on Bob. What "otherworldly" ideologies are you referencing? Edited May 7, 2010 by Rooman33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Webster Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 [quote name='Rooman33' date='06 May 2010 - 05:02 PM' timestamp='1273190560' post='2289488'] No, we don't "have to ask permission." Common courtesy suggests that we'd consult their opinion, but we've made it clear to everyone that we will act in accordance with our own laws and values and if, in so doing, our protectors disagree with our actions we will - as we've done in the past - tell them that they are free of their obligation to protect us. Our sovereignty cannot and will not be compromised.[/quote] So the protection afforded you can be dropped and picked up as conditions permit? [quote name='Rooman33' date='06 May 2010 - 05:02 PM' timestamp='1273190560' post='2289488'] Our charter and DoN state that we will not interfere in the wars or political affairs of other alliances. [/quote] Unless that war is perceived as a threat to you in the future? [quote name='Rooman33' date='06 May 2010 - 05:02 PM' timestamp='1273190560' post='2289488'] Conservatism is a major tenant in our every day interaction on Bob. What "otherworldly" ideologies are you referencing? [/quote] There was use of "OOC" and "real life" around conservatism, so I figured that it had little or no context in this universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooman33 Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 [quote name='Biff Webster' date='06 May 2010 - 08:42 PM' timestamp='1273192954' post='2289526']So the protection afforded you can be dropped and picked up as conditions permit?[/quote] Any legislation, relationship or affiliation on Bob can be dropped or picked-up as conditions permit. [quote]Unless that war is perceived as a threat to you in the future?[/quote] We do not interfere in the [i]politics[/i] or wars (caused by politics) of other alliances. If an alliance declares on a conservative alliance just because it is conservative, or a green alliance just because it is green, or a neutral alliance just because it is neutral - we rightfully reserve the right to see such an attack for the direct threat on our way of life that it is. For instance, if an alliance declared on the GPA saying "there is no place for neutrality on Bob" - it is right and commonsensical that we should and would see that as a threat to our way of life because we, too, are neutral. [quote]There was use of "OOC" and "real life" around conservatism, so I figured that it had little or no context in this universe.[/quote] OOC: There are brief references to "ooc" and "real life" in our charter because, as players, the real life and ooc factors of any community heavily affect how any alliance functions. It makes no sense to create a governing piece of legislation (for our alliance's participation in a game) that fails to acknowledge the fact that we're real people playing a game. Additionally, as our OOC community plays a major role in our alliance's niche, it was right and fitting to mention it in our Charter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesar Julian Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 I also like this. Good to see this on Green. It was my first team and I still appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Webster Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 [quote name='Rooman33' date='06 May 2010 - 06:03 PM' timestamp='1273194166' post='2289539'] Any legislation, relationship or affiliation on Bob can be dropped or picked-up as conditions permit. [/quote] Good point. I hope you'll never have to exercise the right, it might be a tough sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigrun Vapneir Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 This looks quite marvelous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Heh, "let's be even [i]more[/i] neutral!" Seriously, I love this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NationRuler Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 (edited) [quote name='willij' timestamp='1273026926' post='2287183'] [center][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/darooman/GOPOWFBanner.png[/img] Therefore, we have amended our charter to take our valuation of these aspects a step further. We now reserve the right to combat any unjust attacks on neutrality, the green sphere and/or conservatism. [/quote] So if someone attacks neutrality, you attack YOUR neutrality by attacking the attackers. Got it. Edit: missed a word Edited August 1, 2010 by NationRuler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooman33 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 (edited) [quote name='NationRuler' timestamp='1280687556' post='2397254'] So if someone attacks neutrality, you attack YOUR neutrality by attacking the attackers. Got it. Edit: missed a word [/quote] Gravedig, much? And, no, this is not a violation of our neutrality. Neutrality requires that we not align ourselves with other alliances or individuals - which we do not do. Irrespective of who does or doesn't join our cause, when our way of life comes under attack, we reserve the right to defend. We call this soft(line) neutrality. OOC: Instead of aligning ourselves to Alliances (which are in a constant state of flux relative to who's in the membership and/or leadership) using treaties (which usually aren't worth the pixels they're written on), we've aligned ourselves to aspects of the game (which are ever-lasting and totally independent of which other alliances do what). IC: Ours is a different brand of neutrality. If you're trying to understand it relative to the way the GPA or GC apply their own brands, you're not going to get it. Edited August 1, 2010 by Rooman33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Holy gravedig, Batman! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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