Van Hoo III Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 [center][IMG]http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/MistahHoo/RoKLogo.png[/IMG] [size="5"][color="#00FFFF"]Ragnarok[/color][/size][/center] Ragnarok is currently undergoing major internal changes. A few months ago, we instituted new requirements for Ragnarok members in regard to activity and military readiness. Members were informed of these new guidelines and also required to sign in to our forums and become active members of the community. Our membership numbers, as expected, have steadily declined since then as some members decided to go elsewhere instead of following such guidelines. Up until this point, we had not strictly enforced the rules and guidelines and instead have been compiling data about our membership. This data involved who signed into our forums, who has been on IRC, who has been active in the alliance, who are properly growing their nations as instructed, who is sending aid, etc. By doing this, we were able to decide who we no longer wanted in our alliance. Nations who failed to sign into our forums, refuse to help financially, don't interact on our forums or IRC, or didn't bother to respond to our messages at all, are individuals that completely go against our very charter which specifically states that we require activity, sacrifice, and loyalty. We understand that some people just want an alliance that allows them to sit and grow their nation without being involved in any way, shape, or form and that is fine ... Ragnarok just isn't the alliance for those individuals. A list has been compiled and our first wave of expulsion notices have been sent. Those who fail to leave Ragnarok over the next few days will be considered ghosts and attacked by their former alliance-mates. We stand to lose several members and hundreds of thousands of nation strength, but that has never really mattered all that much to us. Once we have purged ourselves of the dead weight among our ranks, the remaining RoK nations will remain compliant for as long as they remain in Ragnarok. Our doors are still open to new members and we will be actively recruiting new nations, but they will join us knowing what is expected and required of them. Thank you for your time. Van Hoo III Emperor of Ragnarok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 (edited) Good luck guys. I know CSN has been having some problems with inactive and uncooperative members as well. In the end, it is totally worth the trouble of getting rid of them since they serve no value to the alliance as a whole. Hoo Edited April 30, 2010 by SpacingOutMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ilyani Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 (edited) So be it. Good luck with all the changes. o/Rok. Edited April 30, 2010 by Bob Ilyani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesalius Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Good decision. Ragnarok will be better in the long run because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reagan1 Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 More alliances need to take this stand. Better to have fewer people and knowing you can count on every one of them than having a ton that inflate your numbers and give you a false sense of security. Classy move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookavich Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 I hope everything goes smoothly for you. o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 A smart decision, activity is fundamental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Don Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Pruning may be a painful process, and make the tree look thinner, but it will grow stronger because of the trimming. o/ RoK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC123 Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Wow. Big changes for Ragnarok! I suspect traditionally tight-knit community with such camaraderie like yours won't lose too much score off this though. Good Luck! o/ Ragnarok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groucho Marx Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Good luck on reorganizing. I hope this works out well for you. Also, get rid of mykep because that guy is exceptionally lame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jekalle Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 This was a long time coming. A faster, leaner, meaner RoK never felt so good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 [quote name='SpacingOutMan' date='29 April 2010 - 09:22 PM' timestamp='1272597732' post='2280846'] Good luck guys. I know CSN has been having some problems with inactive and uncooperative members as well. In the end, it is totally worth the trouble of getting rid of them since they serve no value to the alliance as a whole. Hoo [/quote] I remember how we did it in the CSN during Novision... hahah getting in a war with One Vision cleaned out the ghosts and slackers like nobody's business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred von Tirpitz Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 RoK > Rokkers > Self Thats all one needs to remember, really. To those about to leave us, wish things would have been different, but, i am sure you will understand. After all, you did make the commitment to the above stated ideal, when you joined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Hoo, send me a copy of this policy...i have use for such Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 [color="#0000FF"]Good luck with this. I have always been of the opinion that a slim and active membership is better than a large one with many ghosts. If only people had listened to me when this was a cutting edge idea. Alas, I have always been a man ahead of my time.[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktarthan Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Good for you. Also, please please please, send us a copy of the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEraser Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 I'm not a fan of purges myself, I'd rather see the members converted into active contributors to the community, but there has to be a line. I hope this makes RoK an even more awesome alliance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEd Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 [quote name='Reagan' date='30 April 2010 - 04:24 AM' timestamp='1272597849' post='2280856'] More alliances need to take this stand. Better to have fewer people and knowing you can count on every one of them than having a ton that inflate your numbers and give you a false sense of security. Classy move. [/quote] [quote name='D34th' date='30 April 2010 - 04:25 AM' timestamp='1272597899' post='2280858'] A smart decision, activity is fundamental. [/quote] [quote name='Yukon Don' date='30 April 2010 - 04:26 AM' timestamp='1272597963' post='2280863'] Pruning may be a painful process, and make the tree look thinner, but it will grow stronger because of the trimming. o/ RoK [/quote] Good move Rok, this will only make you stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathcat Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 [quote name='ktarthan' date='29 April 2010 - 08:50 PM' timestamp='1272599400' post='2280925'] Good for you. Also, please please please, send us a copy of the list. [/quote] Beat me to this post .. I want anything about 50-60k NS.. at least some land.. some nukes.. and likes to buy troops back Best of luck moving ever smaller.. ever tighter.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acca Dacca Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 [quote name='elborrador' date='29 April 2010 - 10:50 PM' timestamp='1272599434' post='2280926'] I'm not a fan of purges myself, I'd rather see the members converted into active contributors to the community, but there has to be a line. I hope this makes RoK an even more awesome alliance [/quote] That was of course tried before having them leave. Either way, we look to a better Ragnarok. o/ us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Hoo III Posted April 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 [quote name='elborrador' date='29 April 2010 - 08:50 PM' timestamp='1272599434' post='2280926'] I'm not a fan of purges myself, I'd rather see the members converted into active contributors to the community, but there has to be a line.[/quote] That was our initial intent, which is why this took a couple of months to strongly enforce. We gave everyone plenty of opportunities to comply with our guidelines or find new homes. At this point, if a nation is expelled or even attacked for not leaving, they really don't have much of an argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 This is why I like small alliances. We never have to worry about purges Good luck, Ragnarok :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred von Tirpitz Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 The couple of months that were spent engaging folks in dialogue, understanding their issues, showing them the way, and in many cases witnessing a turn around, were well spent. Of course we did experience some exits, as is evidenced by the stats over those months, people deciding they needed to move on to a different environment. Glad to say that while some people left, the growth has been decent and steady in terms of NS. That means, those that turned around, did so with gusto. This is the end of the counseling period and now the people obstinate enough to not pay heed, need to move on, and fast. Yes we did take into consideration, any extenuating circumstances that an individual member might have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercoolyellow Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 This path isn't for everyone but is as sure as [i]hell [/i]meant for Ragnarok and what you all stand for. o/ Ragnarok Anyone see the pun there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Hoo III Posted April 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 [quote name='ktarthan' date='29 April 2010 - 08:50 PM' timestamp='1272599400' post='2280925'] Good for you. Also, please please please, send us a copy of the list. [/quote] We'll post it on the OWF in 48 hours ... or just send it to GOONS and PC so that they have first dibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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