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I've heard of the IG nation size = IC nation size before, and it has been used as a basis for denying me claims in the past. I've seen it used plenty of times, but I'm not going to dig it up for you guys.

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[quote name='JEDCJT' date='13 April 2010 - 09:30 AM' timestamp='1271176234' post='2258771']
The Air Force, operating in AFBs in many parts of the country, prepared to muster its entire numbers for duty; over 2,520 fighters, interceptors, and bombers, as well as assorted aircrafts, were mobilized for duty.
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I'd like to bring this up because I do not believe JEDCJT can have this many aircraft. He has 105 planes IG which, using the x12 squadron multiplier, would mean he only has 1260 aircraft IC.

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[quote name='Californian' date='15 April 2010 - 05:44 AM' timestamp='1271306667' post='2260947']
I'd like to bring this up because I do not believe JEDCJT can have this many aircraft. He has 105 planes IG which, using the x12 squadron multiplier, would mean he only has 1260 aircraft IC.
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If he has 1260 fighters/bombers/interceptors and the rest is just transports or something along those lines thats ok. But yeah if the rest of that is fighters/bombers/interceptors :/...

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[quote name='Kevin Kingswell' date='15 April 2010 - 02:30 AM' timestamp='1271295036' post='2260707']
Question. Are ICBMs with convential warheads listed under the 50 cruise missile limit or can you have as many as you want because the missiles Merger fired are defiantly ICBMs.
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Lynneth made a ruling on the missiles themselves.

http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=84229&view=findpost&p=2260450

It would largely depend on what the missiles did/how much damage they do, and if there is anything special about them.

[quote name='Executive Minister' date='15 April 2010 - 05:50 AM' timestamp='1271307027' post='2260953']
The Coalition of the Willing really needs to wait up on Mudd.
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From what I can see everyone is just making their opening moves and waiting for mudd to post his casualties/response.

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[quote name='iamthey' date='15 April 2010 - 06:53 AM' timestamp='1271307167' post='2260956']
From what I can see everyone is just making their opening moves and waiting for mudd to post his casualties/response.
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And if he doesn't, they should be allowed to advance somewhat every 3 or 4 days, because otherwise it's a chore.
My opinion.

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the fortifications in the VL were specifically built to withstand everything. Only a nuclear attack could destroy the fortifications—and even it had to be direct.

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I used [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_Ordnance_Penetrator"]these MOPs[/url] on JED's fortifications however he states that only nuclear attacks would have any effect on them. I don't know the materials or thickness used in these fortifications, but Voodoo has informed me that to say something can [i]only[/i] be destroyed from a nuclear attack is absurd.

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[quote name='Californian' date='17 April 2010 - 07:50 AM' timestamp='1271483398' post='2263678']
I used [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_Ordnance_Penetrator"]these MOPs[/url] on JED's fortifications however he states that only nuclear attacks would have any effect on them. I don't know the materials or thickness used in these fortifications, but Voodoo has informed me that to say something can [i]only[/i] be destroyed from a nuclear attack is absurd.
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Any strong enough explosion can at least damage the fortifications.
To be "immune" to nuclear warheads, it would need to be a mountain of reinforced cement or somesuch thing, and that's practically impossible. So yeah, MOPs rip nice chunks out of any defense.

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[quote name='Markus Wilding' date='17 April 2010 - 06:24 AM' timestamp='1271510629' post='2263818']
If possible, I'd like to retcon my DoW and movements, as I no longer have the IG numbers to back up my military.
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This is why you don't commit your entire military all at once to something like this. :P

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[quote name='Subtleknifewielder' date='17 April 2010 - 11:11 AM' timestamp='1271517077' post='2263893']
This is why you don't commit your entire military all at once to something like this. :P
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I didn't commit my ENTIRE military...before the war I could field 70,000 men, now I can barely field 40k.

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[quote name='Californian' date='14 April 2010 - 08:44 PM' timestamp='1271306667' post='2260947']
I'd like to bring this up because I do not believe JEDCJT can have this many aircraft. He has 105 planes IG which, using the x12 squadron multiplier, would mean he only has 1260 aircraft IC.
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Well, according to this [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squadron"]Wiki article[/url], an air force squadron "consists of 3 or 4 flights", which comes to a "total of 12 to 24 aircrafts". Since the article doesn't [i]exactly[/i] state the number of aircrafts per squadron that are used in the USAF (perhaps there may be one somewhere in Wiki, I just haven't bothered to check it out :v:), of which my air force is based off on, I chose to RP 24 aircrafts per squadron. 24 aircrafts multiplied by 105 IG planes equates about 2,520 aircrafts.

Feel free to criticize, lambast, condemn, correct, whatever floats your boat, me.

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[quote name='JEDCJT' date='18 April 2010 - 02:50 PM' timestamp='1271616637' post='2265133']
Well, according to this [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squadron"]Wiki article[/url], an air force squadron "consists of 3 or 4 flights", which comes to a "total of 12 to 24 aircrafts". Since the article doesn't [i]exactly[/i] state the number of aircrafts per squadron that are used in the USAF (perhaps there may be one somewhere in Wiki, I just haven't bothered to check it out :v:), of which my air force is based off on, I chose to RP 24 aircrafts per squadron. 24 aircrafts multiplied by 105 IG planes equates about 2,520 aircrafts.

Feel free to criticize, lambast, condemn, correct, whatever floats your boat, me.
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This is true, but im pretty sure I was knocked on that- apparently the understood amount of aircraft per squadron is 12 in CNRP.

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[quote name='Executive Minister' date='18 April 2010 - 08:54 PM' timestamp='1271616842' post='2265140']
This is true, but im pretty sure I was knocked on that- apparently the understood amount of aircraft per squadron is 12 in CNRP.
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This is in fact the case.
Unless Jed wants each of his planes to be half strength. :3

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[quote name='Executive Minister' date='18 April 2010 - 07:54 PM' timestamp='1271616842' post='2265140']
This is true, but im pretty sure I was knocked on that- apparently the understood amount of aircraft per squadron is 12 in CNRP.
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You are permitted up to 12 aircraft per squadron. So if for some reason you really just wanted 7 or 10 air craft to a squadron you could do that too. As for 24 (JED)... a squadron is a squadron. While the rule says 12 max, even if you were to have 24 it would be treated as if it were 12 (of course taking into account your tech)...

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