TonytheTiger Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 (edited) Why would an alliance that has been preparing to be on the wrong end of a curbstomp since the WUT started turning on itself pay record setting reps? The fact is that a month on, TOP is still giving as good as we are getting, still has over 1k nukes, and still has warchests which will last us for many months more. Why should TOP peace out when we are just that well suited to a long war? It's getting to the point where CnG is just wagging a war of tech extortion. A loosing war, I might add. As any reps we eventually may agree to will most certainly be a fraction of the damage already done. The longer it goes on now, the more damage TOP does to CnG in disproportionate amount, so I don't understand them waiting a month to offer us terms we will obviously reject. It's a long term game though, so is it better to accept reps designed to extort tech and damage the alliance or fight on and continue the campaign? Edited March 2, 2010 by TonytheTiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krashnaia Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 (edited) Well, fact is: - If you keep fighting, CnG wins. - If you stop fighting and pay the reps, CnG wins. Since it's a lose-lose scenario for you, you should think wich way do you lose more. - Surrendering now, you get to keep your warchests, and get to start rebuilding right on. - Keep fighting, you will miss many months of tax collection, will have to begin rebuilding a lot of months later than CnG, you'll begin to lose members in high numbers... and you have no guarentee you'll not end up forced to reps anyway. Edited March 2, 2010 by Krashnaia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bringer Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Give them Hell TOP, the Educated world is behind you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegade4box Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Voted pound C&G. Give em hell!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymenbreach Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 please help my continued rise up the rankings by pounding each other. kthxbai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted March 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 [quote name='Krashnaia' date='02 March 2010 - 04:14 AM' timestamp='1267521491' post='2211122'] Well, fact is: - If you keep fighting, CnG wins. - If you stop fighting and pay the reps, CnG wins. So, it's a lose-lose scenario for you. [/quote] -If we keep fighting, more CnG nations will be loosing more infra, where as TOP can fight on for months more and increase the damage done through the long war, further proving TOPs resolve and capabilities -If we pay the reps and stop fighting, CnG still took a beating from us and now have few upper infra nations to speak of. It all depends on how you define winning and loosing in this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDRocks Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 [quote name='renegade4box' date='02 March 2010 - 01:23 AM' timestamp='1267522014' post='2211128'] Voted pound C&G. Give em hell!! [/quote] This, C&G would love to keep pounding on TOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord GVChamp Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Don't like CnG much. Don't like TOP dominating the upper tier. Continue nuking each other. Realistically, though, you could bargain down the reps into something that is acceptable and maintains TOP influence. Continuing the war runs the risk of severely depleting your chests and removing a lot of TOP's power for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted March 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 I count 2 MK nations over 10K infra, both cowering in peace mode vs 8 TOP nations 10k+. Who's winning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord GVChamp Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 (edited) [quote name='TonytheTiger' date='02 March 2010 - 03:42 AM' timestamp='1267523174' post='2211141'] I count 2 MK nations over 10K infra, both cowering in peace mode vs 8 TOP nations 10k+. Who's winning? [/quote] You didn't declare on just MK. You declared on the entire Complaints and Grievances bloc. Not only that, but your coalition is also fighting MHA, NpO, Gremlins, FOK, Sparta. You are bleeding off 1 million NS every week, which is more than everyone else. You are being offered reps demanding you surrender half your tech. So who's winning? Not you, man. Edited March 2, 2010 by Lord GVChamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoryproblems Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 [quote name='Lord GVChamp' date='02 March 2010 - 03:48 AM' timestamp='1267523545' post='2211146'] You didn't declare on just MK. You declared on the entire Complaints and Grievances bloc. Not only that, but your coalition is also fighting MHA, NpO, Gremlins, FOK, Sparta. You are bleeding off 1 million NS every week, which is more than everyone else. You are being offered reps demanding you surrender half your tech. So who's winning? Not you, man. [/quote] wonder what the numbers are of 'everyone else' combined. Its mutually assured destruction. Pacifica is sneaking back to #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted March 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 (edited) TOP still has the most tech in the game after a month of war. Why should we give away that advantage as opposed to using it to continue the fight? The NS loses we have taken have started to lessen now that much of our infra is gone, but we can still continue to dish out damage with the tech, cash and nukes that we have amassed. We can do this through to the summer folks. Edited March 2, 2010 by TonytheTiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denial Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Okay, keep fighting then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Wow- nice phrasing of the questions I see no bias That aside- do whatever you want to do and stop Bawwing all over the CNF about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krashnaia Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 (edited) [quote name='TonytheTiger' date='02 March 2010 - 11:17 AM' timestamp='1267525251' post='2211163']TOP still has the most tech in the game after a month of war. Why should we give away that advantage as opposed to using it to continue the fight? The NS loses we have taken have started to lessen now that much of our infra is gone, but we can still continue to dish out damage with the tech, cash and nukes that we have amassed. We can do this through to the summer folks.[/quote] Go on. CnG isn't losing any sleep over that fact. You should ask yourself why, and maybe you'd notice the fault in your reasoning. HINT: - Actual NS of CC Bloc: 12,488,380 - Actual NS of SC Bloc: 106,601,777 - Unless you deliver 10 times you take (wich you arent gonna do, 1.5:1 at most and probably 1:1 or worse), you are boned. Edited March 2, 2010 by Krashnaia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Expects Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 TOP, keep nuking, it reaches the point where you can only get a DA and lose tech from CM's and the nuke, the infra loss daily is irrelevant as you can rebuy to 1k for a pittance, and the dmg you output is vast in comparison. You might not be winning at that point, but you are also not losing anything like as much as the enemy. o/ TOP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der_ko Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 I don't really care either way. Our terms will not change, only your ability to pay them will and the longer you resist the harder it will be for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Longworth Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 I want NPO to get back in the #1 spot please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 (edited) Biased poll is biased. I hope you continue much longer cause it's funny to see TOP drop like a fly. I'm also gonna predict that IRON will surrender more than a week before you will. Edited March 2, 2010 by kriekfreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ty345 Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Lol. Just lol. "We have bigger warchests than you and more tech and stuff..." Go look at the War Stats. You have around 12mil NS vs C&G's 106mil NS. You are [i]not[/i] winning. I really couldn't care less what you do, but don't try to spin basic math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Bad Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Keep pounding away. C&G is taking a beating and from a strategic stand point everyday they are put in a worse spot. While some would sell you the C&G and SF are tight they are not. They are in fact rivals. This is why C&G has kept Polar on to try and balance the growing gap in military strength. The return of NPO and general turning of the tide of popular opinion since Karma all make this a vital war for C&G to come out of soon and intact. Either way TOP is screwed unless they give you light terms you might as well take them down with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lebubu Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 ^lol You're not winning and you can't win. But do whatever you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja Colt Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 [quote name='TonytheTiger' date='02 March 2010 - 04:17 AM' timestamp='1267525251' post='2211163'] TOP still has the most tech in the game after a month of war. Why should we give away that advantage as opposed to using it to continue the fight? The NS loses we have taken have started to lessen now that much of our infra is gone, but we can still continue to dish out damage with the tech, cash and nukes that we have amassed. We can do this through to the summer folks. [/quote] Hey, haven't you guys already lost about 500,000 tech in the war? Let's see how much you'll have in another month of war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecthelion Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 You most certainly are not FAN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letum Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 [quote name='TonytheTiger' date='02 March 2010 - 09:05 AM' timestamp='1267520966' post='2211118'] Why would an alliance that has been preparing to be on the wrong end of a curbstomp since the WUT started turning on itself [b]pay record setting reps? [/b] [/quote] Oi, you ain't stealing that title from us. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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