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TonytheTiger

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Why would an alliance that has been preparing to be on the wrong end of a curbstomp since the WUT started turning on itself pay record setting reps?

The fact is that a month on, TOP is still giving as good as we are getting, still has over 1k nukes, and still has warchests which will last us for many months more. Why should TOP peace out when we are just that well suited to a long war?

It's getting to the point where CnG is just wagging a war of tech extortion. A loosing war, I might add. As any reps we eventually may agree to will most certainly be a fraction of the damage already done. The longer it goes on now, the more damage TOP does to CnG in disproportionate amount, so I don't understand them waiting a month to offer us terms we will obviously reject.

It's a long term game though, so is it better to accept reps designed to extort tech and damage the alliance or fight on and continue the campaign?

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Well, fact is:

- If you keep fighting, CnG wins.
- If you stop fighting and pay the reps, CnG wins.

Since it's a lose-lose scenario for you, you should think wich way do you lose more.

- Surrendering now, you get to keep your warchests, and get to start rebuilding right on.
- Keep fighting, you will miss many months of tax collection, will have to begin rebuilding a lot of months later than CnG, you'll begin to lose members in high numbers... and you have no guarentee you'll not end up forced to reps anyway.

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[quote name='Krashnaia' date='02 March 2010 - 04:14 AM' timestamp='1267521491' post='2211122']
Well, fact is:

- If you keep fighting, CnG wins.
- If you stop fighting and pay the reps, CnG wins.

So, it's a lose-lose scenario for you.
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-If we keep fighting, more CnG nations will be loosing more infra, where as TOP can fight on for months more and increase the damage done through the long war, further proving TOPs resolve and capabilities
-If we pay the reps and stop fighting, CnG still took a beating from us and now have few upper infra nations to speak of.

It all depends on how you define winning and loosing in this game.

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[quote name='renegade4box' date='02 March 2010 - 01:23 AM' timestamp='1267522014' post='2211128']
Voted pound C&G. Give em hell!!
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This, C&G would love to keep pounding on TOP.

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Don't like CnG much. Don't like TOP dominating the upper tier.


Continue nuking each other.


Realistically, though, you could bargain down the reps into something that is acceptable and maintains TOP influence. Continuing the war runs the risk of severely depleting your chests and removing a lot of TOP's power for a long time.

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[quote name='TonytheTiger' date='02 March 2010 - 03:42 AM' timestamp='1267523174' post='2211141']
I count 2 MK nations over 10K infra, both cowering in peace mode vs 8 TOP nations 10k+.

Who's winning?
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You didn't declare on just MK. You declared on the entire Complaints and Grievances bloc. Not only that, but your coalition is also fighting MHA, NpO, Gremlins, FOK, Sparta. You are bleeding off 1 million NS every week, which is more than everyone else. You are being offered reps demanding you surrender half your tech.



So who's winning? Not you, man.

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[quote name='Lord GVChamp' date='02 March 2010 - 03:48 AM' timestamp='1267523545' post='2211146']
You didn't declare on just MK. You declared on the entire Complaints and Grievances bloc. Not only that, but your coalition is also fighting MHA, NpO, Gremlins, FOK, Sparta. You are bleeding off 1 million NS every week, which is more than everyone else. You are being offered reps demanding you surrender half your tech.



So who's winning? Not you, man.
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wonder what the numbers are of 'everyone else' combined.

Its mutually assured destruction. Pacifica is sneaking back to #1.

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TOP still has the most tech in the game after a month of war. Why should we give away that advantage as opposed to using it to continue the fight? The NS loses we have taken have started to lessen now that much of our infra is gone, but we can still continue to dish out damage with the tech, cash and nukes that we have amassed. We can do this through to the summer folks.

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[quote name='TonytheTiger' date='02 March 2010 - 11:17 AM' timestamp='1267525251' post='2211163']TOP still has the most tech in the game after a month of war. Why should we give away that advantage as opposed to using it to continue the fight? The NS loses we have taken have started to lessen now that much of our infra is gone, but we can still continue to dish out damage with the tech, cash and nukes that we have amassed. We can do this through to the summer folks.[/quote]

Go on. CnG isn't losing any sleep over that fact.

You should ask yourself why, and maybe you'd notice the fault in your reasoning.

HINT:
- Actual NS of CC Bloc: 12,488,380
- Actual NS of SC Bloc: 106,601,777
- Unless you deliver 10 times you take (wich you arent gonna do, 1.5:1 at most and probably 1:1 or worse), you are boned.

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TOP, keep nuking, it reaches the point where you can only get a DA and lose tech from CM's and the nuke, the infra loss daily is irrelevant as you can rebuy to 1k for a pittance, and the dmg you output is vast in comparison. You might not be winning at that point, but you are also not losing anything like as much as the enemy.

o/ TOP

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Lol. Just lol.

"We have bigger warchests than you and more tech and stuff..."
Go look at the War Stats. You have around 12mil NS vs C&G's 106mil NS. You are [i]not[/i] winning. I really couldn't care less what you do, but don't try to spin basic math.

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Keep pounding away. C&G is taking a beating and from a strategic stand point everyday they are put in a worse spot. While some would sell you the C&G and SF are tight they are not. They are in fact rivals. This is why C&G has kept Polar on to try and balance the growing gap in military strength. The return of NPO and general turning of the tide of popular opinion since Karma all make this a vital war for C&G to come out of soon and intact. Either way TOP is screwed unless they give you light terms you might as well take them down with you.

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[quote name='TonytheTiger' date='02 March 2010 - 04:17 AM' timestamp='1267525251' post='2211163']
TOP still has the most tech in the game after a month of war. Why should we give away that advantage as opposed to using it to continue the fight? The NS loses we have taken have started to lessen now that much of our infra is gone, but we can still continue to dish out damage with the tech, cash and nukes that we have amassed. We can do this through to the summer folks.
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Hey, haven't you guys already lost about 500,000 tech in the war?


Let's see how much you'll have in another month of war.

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[quote name='TonytheTiger' date='02 March 2010 - 09:05 AM' timestamp='1267520966' post='2211118']
Why would an alliance that has been preparing to be on the wrong end of a curbstomp since the WUT started turning on itself [b]pay record setting reps? [/b]
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Oi, you ain't stealing that title from us. Sorry.

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