Mixoux Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Congrats on peace, guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorponok Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Good call, you'd come out pretty worse for ware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auto98 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 This is not white peace. Not sure why this can't be understood, but if you impose terms, it is not white peace... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x Tela x Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 [quote name='Mr Damsky' date='12 February 2010 - 12:47 AM' timestamp='1265953631' post='2176943'] Will you ever shut up? Jesus christ. The only clause restricting MASH/Quantum is the fact they can't reenter the war. Calm down. [/quote] What's your problem, champ? You sound grouchy. I don't have a problem with the surrender here. I was simply pointing out that people keep using the term "White peace" without actually knowing what it means. White peace is not defined as an absence of monetary reparations. White peace is just that - peace. No strings attached. While it's certainly nice to see some periphery alliances that wanted out, get out cleanly, the lack of reparations does not make it white peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymenbreach Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) [quote name='kriekfreak' date='12 February 2010 - 05:48 AM' timestamp='1265953690' post='2176952'] I agree with Tela that it isn't a white peace. It's a white surrender. [/quote] [quote]i need more tech, stronger targets please Maybe we can fight someone a bit more challenging now [/quote] To this post and the others of a similar ilk. This is why we hate you. Kthxbai. Edited February 12, 2010 by Hymenbreach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromp Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Congratulations on peace, for real this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftbehind Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I feel a bit dirty. I'm gone to take a shower. o/ Musta my honorable opponent may your subs never be found o/ Asgaard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) Its not white peace its a surrender with conditions imposed by the victor. Fair play to The Legion. o/ The complete lack of respect shown to beaten opponents by some people here is pathetic. Edited February 12, 2010 by Alterego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyphon88 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 [quote name='x Tela x' date='12 February 2010 - 10:45 AM' timestamp='1265971557' post='2177391'] What's your problem, champ? You sound grouchy. I don't have a problem with the surrender here. I was simply pointing out that people keep using the term "White peace" without actually knowing what it means. White peace is not defined as an absence of monetary reparations. White peace is just that - peace. No strings attached. While it's certainly nice to see some periphery alliances that wanted out, get out cleanly, the lack of reparations does not make it white peace. [/quote] How about we coin it Grey peace then? White but slighly murky. Just like my underwear. I've heard respectable things about Quantum's fighters coming out of this. Well done to those guys, and well done on getting out sensibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yevgeni Luchenkov Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 It's peace and one without harsh terms. Good luck to MASH and Quantum on their rebuilding efforts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Irwin Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 o/ peace! Quantum has fought hard and admirably. They have earned my respect on the battlefield. My nation will continue to shine it's nuclear glow in your honor for several days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGrievous Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 O/ Peace Quantum have shown their quality on the battlefield, it was an honour to have fought such worthy adversaries, I'm glad peace has been agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obscurus Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) o/ to our friends of Quantum for getting a fair peace o/ to our friends of TTK for issuing it Edited February 12, 2010 by obscurus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) [quote name='auto98' date='12 February 2010 - 10:40 AM' timestamp='1265971247' post='2177385'] This is not white peace. Not sure why this can't be understood, but if you impose terms, it is not white peace... [/quote] [quote name='x Tela x' date='12 February 2010 - 10:45 AM' timestamp='1265971557' post='2177391'] What's your problem, champ? You sound grouchy. I don't have a problem with the surrender here. I was simply pointing out that people keep using the term "White peace" without actually knowing what it means. White peace is not defined as an absence of monetary reparations. White peace is just that - peace. No strings attached. While it's certainly nice to see some periphery alliances that wanted out, get out cleanly, the lack of reparations does not make it white peace. [/quote] Can't you guys just leave poor MASH and Quantum alone? They've stood up for their friends and taken a beating for it, the last thing they need is for their supposed allies to be picking holes in the language that they've used to announce this agreement. Shame on you all. My hat comes off to Dran129 for making the last few days interesting. Edited February 12, 2010 by Kowalski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) I don't think it is a matter of anyone "picking" on a specific alliance so much as it is a general misunderstanding of what it means to establish a white peace. If you surrender and get peace, you surrendered. That is not white peace. If you get peace and accept terms, you surrendered. That is not white peace. If both sides simply stop fighting and peace is established mutually without terms imposed on either side then it is white peace. It is just a matter of confusing the specifics and makes it difficult for those parties seeking actual white peace because the masses are easily confused and will think this erroneous example is correct. Aside from that, congratulations on your peace. Edited February 12, 2010 by Ivan Moldavi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) Mr. Moldavi is right. This isn't about Quantum or MASH specifically. This is about the misuse of the concept that is 'White Peace'. As Ivan explained, a white peace only is white peace if there are no terms involved and if neither of the alliances in question surrenders to the other. I have introduced the new concept of 'White Surrender'. Which is the hybrid form of a ' White Peace' and a 'Surrender'. More specifically it is a concept that should be used for these kinds of surrenders. A surrender w/o any reparations or harsh terms. Carry on. Edited February 12, 2010 by kriekfreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 [quote name='kriekfreak' date='12 February 2010 - 10:07 AM' timestamp='1265987254' post='2177599'] Mr. Moldavi is right. [/quote] And somewhere a kind old lady has just died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Fingolfin Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 You fulfilled your obligations to us. Rebuild stronger than before. O/ MASH O/ Quantum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Pleasure fighting you Quantum, good luck for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Impero Romano Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Ivan Moldavi' date='12 February 2010 - 03:01 PM' timestamp='1265986900' post='2177583'] I don't think it is a matter of anyone "picking" on a specific alliance so much as it is a general misunderstanding of what it means to establish a white peace. If you surrender and get peace, you surrendered. That is not white peace. If you get peace and accept terms, you surrendered. That is not white peace. If both sides simply stop fighting and peace is established mutually without terms imposed on either side then it is white peace. It is just a matter of confusing the specifics and makes it difficult for those parties seeking actual white peace because the masses are easily confused and will think this erroneous example is correct. Aside from that, congratulations on your peace. [/quote] I don't understand why a distinction even needs to be created. A there is nothing wrong with defeated alliance acquiescing, and kindly being allowed to take up their things and just simply going home. The third and apparently new found definition of "white peace" seems....I don't know....embarrassingly prideful. Either way, congratulations to all involved on achieving mother of pearl peace. Edited February 12, 2010 by Il Impero Romano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Digbycc Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 congrats Quantum, you fought the good fight but i'm pleased that peace could be reached so quickly. o/TSCE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 [quote name='LJ Scott' date='12 February 2010 - 02:11 AM' timestamp='1265962292' post='2177290'] Maybe we can fight someone a bit more challenging now [/quote] [quote name='lunar146' date='12 February 2010 - 02:13 AM' timestamp='1265962439' post='2177292'] i need more tech, stronger targets please [/quote] Classy. No. Really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiao Weng Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 [quote name='janax' date='12 February 2010 - 10:43 AM' timestamp='1265993007' post='2177713'] Classy. No. Really. [/quote] The same could be said on both sides of the fence, sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I expect better from Umbrella though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assarax Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 o/ MASH o/ Quantum you guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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