ponken Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 [quote name='uaciaut' date='01 February 2010 - 09:46 AM' timestamp='1265013986' post='2150170'] The only time you actually went ahead with it was when you had everything in check and you where 100% it will be an easy win on your side. [/quote] And this time is no different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uaciaut Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Bob Janova' date='01 February 2010 - 04:10 PM' timestamp='1265033439' post='2150377'] Wait, [i]what[/i]? Also, my nation bio appears to be accurate [/quote] Oh god. Are you gonna start arguing about how TOP could've lost the NpO war after everyone cancelled on them when they were hitting with a coalition? Or how Karma could've lost the war when they had it already won from the start and TOP joined a few weeks in? Or how GPA errr... Yeah. As for wc's - well i did buy 2k infra a week or so before this went down, so i wasn't really that prepared :< [quote name='Ponken' date='01 February 2010 - 04:17 PM' timestamp='1265033870' post='2150387'] And this time is no different. [/quote] I'll be saving this for later. Edited February 1, 2010 by uaciaut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 (edited) It may have passed you by that TOP has gone ahead with entering a war more recently than during the Karma war. Edited February 1, 2010 by Bob Janova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerichoholic Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 [quote name='Bob Janova' date='01 February 2010 - 09:21 AM' timestamp='1265034099' post='2150390'] It may have passed you by that TOP has gone ahead with entering a war more recently than Karma. [/quote] Karma doesn't exist anymore. It isn't an alliance or a bloc, it was a wartime coalition that ceased to exist after the Karma War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Edited my post to make it more unambiguous what I meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerichoholic Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 [quote name='Bob Janova' date='01 February 2010 - 10:05 AM' timestamp='1265036735' post='2150482'] Edited my post to make it more unambiguous what I meant. [/quote] Maybe I'm missing a war here but all I've seen from TOP since Karma is: a) TPF War which I don't believe they actually fought in (though LM masterminded the 6 day waiting strategy) b) This war, which just started and isn't even close to fully playing out yet (or at least I hope it isn't) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diomede Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Not every incident turns into a war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerichoholic Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 [quote name='Diomede' date='01 February 2010 - 12:39 PM' timestamp='1265045991' post='2150691'] Not every incident turns into a war. [/quote] It wasn't an attack, I was just pointing out a flaw (which turned out to be an ambiguity) in his post. Incidentally, I'm not sure what his argument was since he wasn't quoting anybody. Was it that TOP has lower warchests than they normally do because they've been in a war recently? If so, then I would love to be proven wrong on my previous post (TOP's number of wars since Karma). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Stukov II Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 [quote name='Venizelos' date='01 February 2010 - 07:12 AM' timestamp='1265008361' post='2150086'] hint: the vast majority of them havent been in any wars. not real wars at least. [/quote] I guess I was ranked 230th in casualties before the war because I've been hiding in peace mode this whole time. It's not so hard to save up a few billion if you run your nation efficiently at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 [quote name='Vladimir Stukov II' date='01 February 2010 - 12:55 PM' timestamp='1265057728' post='2150999'] I guess I was ranked 230th in casualties before the war because I've been hiding in peace mode this whole time. It's not so hard to save up a few billion if you run your nation efficiently at all. [/quote] Uhh, it's easy to get 1 million casualties when you have 14k infra. Try getting 1 million casualties (or whatever it was that put you at #230) when you've never had more than 8k infra (I had 1.2-1.5 mil by the end of UJW). TOP has never had to really recover from a war like most other alliances have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TECUMSEH Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 With modest efforts, any nation in the top 100 ought to be able to put away $500M per month. There's not a whole lot of point to buying infra above 16K. Bank it all. Boring as hell, but the money is a better investment than the infra. No top 100 nation should be under $2B, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epik High Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 You gotta get beat down at least once to prove you're the !@#$. It's a sign of skill Maybe TOP will be part of the cool kids club after this war... right now they're just the nerds sitting in the corner playing EU3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I'm still ranked 307th in casualties after this war has been going for over a week and I have yet to participate. My nation has never been put through the meatgrinder. I got nuked out of 4k infra in Karma, but that wasn't even bad enough for me to bother rebuilding and only one of my opponents was really competent so my war chest was actually larger at the end than when I started. In noCB STA turtled [I]and[/I] kept our front non-nuclear so I didn't take damage there. UJW ended before my nation could even come out of peace mode for our second wave. The last time I did any significant fighting in a war was Great War III in which I only did maybe a week of fighting and had less total infra than I lost in Karma. Gaining casualty ranks in the upper tier is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidMercury Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 [quote name='Delta1212' date='01 February 2010 - 03:12 PM' timestamp='1265058756' post='2151037'] I'm still ranked 307th in casualties after this war has been going for over a week and I have yet to participate. My nation has never been put through the meatgrinder. I got nuked out of 4k infra in Karma, but that wasn't even bad enough for me to bother rebuilding and only one of my opponents was really competent so my war chest was actually larger at the end than when I started. In noCB STA turtled [I]and[/I] kept our front non-nuclear so I didn't take damage there. UJW ended before my nation could even come out of peace mode for our second wave. The last time I did any significant fighting in a war was Great War III in which I only did maybe a week of fighting and had less total infra than I lost in Karma. Gaining casualty ranks in the upper tier is a joke. [/quote] That it is. I don't remember what I was during Karma, then I lost 6500 infra or so. I'm almost to the top 100 in casualties now after losing 5k infra so far. Nooks in our range do hurt and soldiers die quick. [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=79752"]Example[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meer Republic Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 [quote name='Drai' date='01 February 2010 - 09:02 PM' timestamp='1265058121' post='2151009'] Uhh, it's easy to get 1 million casualties when you have 14k infra. Try getting 1 million casualties (or whatever it was that put you at #230) when you've never had more than 8k infra (I had 1.2-1.5 mil by the end of UJW). TOP has never had to really recover from a war like most other alliances have. [/quote] Everyone in TOP has always been in TOP and never had another alliance. Really... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 [quote name='Meer Republic' date='01 February 2010 - 01:41 PM' timestamp='1265060469' post='2151098'] Everyone in TOP has always been in TOP and never had another alliance. Really... [/quote] A lot of them. And who's to say they haven't come from alliances that hadn't experienced a beatdown before their departure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Drai' date='01 February 2010 - 03:02 PM' timestamp='1265058121' post='2151009'] Uhh, it's easy to get 1 million casualties when you have 14k infra. Try getting 1 million casualties (or whatever it was that put you at #230) when you've never had more than 8k infra (I had 1.2-1.5 mil by the end of UJW). TOP has never had to really recover from a war like most other alliances have. [/quote] I had around 2 million casualties with my old nation. That was acquired during Vox too. I started at around 6k infra and maybe 1k tech. I was ranked #128 if I recall correctly, and I remained at around #150 shortly after Karma. EDIT: After the first month I was down to less than 1k infra and maybe 200 tech and I then fought on for 9 more months, so yeah. Edited February 1, 2010 by Earogema Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gn0xious Jr Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 i've got $1.00, thinking about leaving the war altogether and getting a 5-piece of spicy chicken nuggets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janosik Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I don't like this thread. It smells of e-peen waving about. TOP: How about we stop posting so much? We've never liked posting on the OWF anyhow, why start now? It'll help us maintain our TOP vs. World theme. However I will respond to the "TOP has never been in a major war, know nothing wat wat", you're right. My nation went from a 1k NS nation receiving a beatdown from people with 100 tech to the 100k NS nation I've got today. Whether my vast store of pentup War Guide reading and resource hoarding is paying off is something you can ask CnG. If you're going to wipe us off Plantet Bob, at least have the decency to give us more targets to nuke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurney Halleck Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Wait, we're supposed to have a warchest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frydchikn Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 [quote name='AAlumni' date='01 February 2010 - 08:03 PM' timestamp='1265072582' post='2151586'] Wait, we're supposed to have a warchest? [/quote] I dont have a warchest I fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon De Montfort Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 (edited) I feel left out. I spent 8 months working on this WC and no one spies me to find out and post here? Edited February 2, 2010 by Simon De Montfort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecthelion Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Shout out to Obama: Dang man, you're so powerful my alliance mates are getting deleted for attacking you. Change, a change we can believe in. You weren't kidding. Best of luck in the fight mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 These are some intense warchests haha. My poor little re-roll doesn't have nearly that much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berith Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 (edited) I've got 344m, but I spent 200m already. Edited February 2, 2010 by Berith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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