SpoiL Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Except in GOD's case the people they attacked were already in the war and they did have a valid treaty tie into it. Spin. MK and such have already admitted that they'd be joining the war in defense of whoever IRON would have attacked. They skipped the middleman. Stupid? Your call, but not relevant. Also, you try to spin this as an 'aggressive war' by IRON. Technically, it is, but technically so was everybody else's treaty activations. It is a special circumstance, but the only thing making this a 'new war' is your desire to ignore the connections between the conflicts because you want to roll them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncos98 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 (edited) You don't want help ? I think both IRON and NSO have seen enough of Polar's 'help' during the past 24 hours. Next. Edit: My respect for NSO has grown exponentially over the past few days. If only all alliance leadership showed your honor. Edited January 30, 2010 by Broncos98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 o/ NSO Ballsy and honorable; mere Jedi would have sat this out Don't you think you've bit off a little more than you can chew already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heggo Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 All I can do is quote GOD's words and allow reasonable people to consider whether or not IRON's targets were on someone's side or not. WC, I'll leave the elawyering to you. But then again, none of that really matters. We would have declared in support of IRON whether they acted legitimately or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Spin. MK and such have already admitted that they'd be joining the war in defense of whoever IRON would have attacked. They skipped the middleman. Stupid? Your call, but not relevant. Also, you try to spin this as an 'aggressive war' by IRON. Technically, it is, but technically so was everybody else's treaty activations. It is a special circumstance, but the only thing making this a 'new war' is your desire to ignore the connections between the conflicts because you want to roll them. Yes IRON's war was aggressive and against alliances not fighting and they had no treaties to give them the reason to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Granted. And yet, the nations at arms against IRON are doing so in defense of aggressive actions by IRON. Your defense of IRON in this, is support of that aggressive action. I did not go so far as to say that NSO was dis-honorable. Its dishonorable to stick by allies and not abandon them? IF you wouldn't of done the same in our position, I'm glad we're not treatied to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeta Defender Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Bring it to them Sith, Godspeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Jag Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I'm not a fan of the side of the treaty web NSO finds itself on, but I think anyone can appreciate the spirit that this declaration was made in. I can never put down the decision to help your treaty partner. Fight on, Sith, may you find a worthy opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anhur Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 o/ the Sith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilber Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I get to have some fun in 5 days or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I get to have some fun in 5 days or so. How's the tech? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilber Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 My WRC hungers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heggo Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 How's the tech? Are you really going to mock someone's nation stats while leading a joke alliance yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakamitai Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I salute you, Ivan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hob Dobson Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I think anyone objective will see this as a very honorable action. I can just salute you guys. By some measures it may not be the most rational course of action, but I'd have to agree that honor is served. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanor Noldorin Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 My WRC hungers. o/ Johan be with you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenged Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I wish all the best to the Sith. Godspeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stilgar Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Its dishonorable to stick by allies and not abandon them? IF you wouldn't of done the same in our position, I'm glad we're not treatied to you. He did not say that it was dishonorable. In fact, he stated that he agreed with Stonewall Jaxon's statement that you guys were NOT dishonorable. He merely expressed and clarified his opinion that your defense was in support of IRON's aggressive actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoiL Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 He did not say that it was dishonorable. In fact, he stated that he agreed with Stonewall Jaxon's statement that you guys were NOT dishonorable. He merely expressed and clarified his opinion that your defense was in support of IRON's aggressive actions. In support of IRON's preemptive actions, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCynical Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 My WRC hungers. By the time you come out of peace mode, it'll be starving. Shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilber Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 By the time you come out of peace mode, it'll be starving. Shame. You don't know me very well then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehChron Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Yes IRON's war was aggressive and against alliances not fighting and they had no treaties to give them the reason to do so. What reason did GOD have to declare again, then? What treaties did they invoke to declare on us? Quit posturing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 (edited) What reason did GOD have to declare again, then? What treaties did they invoke to declare on us? Quit posturing. SuperFriends for one. Probably others but that's all that matters. Edited January 30, 2010 by Lord Brendan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stilgar Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 What reason did GOD have to declare again, then? What treaties did they invoke to declare on us? Quit posturing. GOD's DoW was poorly worded, especially in hindsight. But just to lay some facts out there, they had a treaty way in due to their MADP with R&R who declared on you earlier that night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weirdgus Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Awesome stuff stuff NSO! Wipe them out...all of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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