YohanElus Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Greetings, About a week ago, the government of ZH decided to disband the alliance. I'd like to thank Athens for sticking around as our protectors, even when we didn't deserve it. Farewell, Yohan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwthegreat Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Good luck to the remaining members. I smell something suspicious though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulchep Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Goodbye, ZH. I enjoyed my time there, short though it may have been. o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnCapistan Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Well this is interesting. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 GL to all of the ex-members of ZH, especially the ones who now call VE home <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakamitai Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Expected. I'm surprised it took this long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Sad but understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwthegreat Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 GL to all of the ex-members of ZH, especially the ones who now call VE home <3 I would be careful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Manbearpig Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 After all the trouble you all have caused, you decide to disband. What a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkMonkey Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I just have to comment before the tin foil brigade starts passing out the 'special' kool aid. This decision was made in the best interests of the members. It would be impossible to carry on as an alliance from a political stand point. When we told Athens what the original intention of ZH was, we fully expected to get killed. Obviously that did not happen, though to this day I personally think it should have and was a mistake on Athens' part for not meting out some form of punishment. In the wake of this affair, the level of distrust on both sides is high. No one aside from Athens would sign a treaty with ZH. Athens is a good group of people, but having one ally isn't enough, especially when that ally is split down the middle when it comes to how ZH should have been dealt with. People keeping asking why we came out when we did. It really was a spur of the moment thing, I know it's hard to believe, but I'm kind of impulsive. We knew it was only a matter of time before someone threw us under the bus, so I made the decision to read Zulchep in on the original intent of ZH. She advised we come clean with Athens as we had an MDoAP with them sitting in our Embassy since Oct, just waiting to be signed. We didn't upgrade because of our history, before all of this we were actively trying to figure out how to separate ourselves from Athens and not have the relationship end on bad terms. Telling the truth equaled ZI and the death of the alliance, politically and membership wise. As we wanted ZH to be successful, we were selfish for that reason in not telling Athens. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and accept whatever may come, which is exactly what we did and this is the result. Whether this makes a difference or not, I really don't care. I just get tired of people acting like they know everything when they really don't have a !@#$@#$ clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Stalin Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I've been waiting for this announcement. expected/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan King Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I can't say that I am sad about this disbandment. I believe that this is a sign that karma (real karma, not the façade used in the last war) does exist on this planet. Happy trails to the former members of Zero Hour and I look forward to the day when I can be proud to know you individually again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythicknight Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 One down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWConner Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 (edited) Normally disbandments are a bad and unfortunate thing, however in this case, not so much. Amazingly you all have escaped, for the most part, unscathed. Truly a shame. Edited January 11, 2010 by JWConner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I would be careful From someone in TSO, I will take that information with a shot of penicillin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James I Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 (edited) Probably the right decision, as you admit. Good luck wherever you end up (VE, from what I gather?). Edited January 11, 2010 by James I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astronaut jones Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 (edited) One down. Will TORN be next? In all seriousness though, I don't know why ZH escaped punishment in all of this, simply because they decided to come clean about it. Punishment still should have been handed out to ZH along with TPF. I guess disbandment is your punishment. Edited January 11, 2010 by astronaut jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomzoomzoom Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Congratulations! You've not only killed your reputations, but your alliance as well, bravo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch33kY Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 This had to happen sooner or later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 (edited) After all the trouble you all have caused, you decide to disband. What a shame. And continue living on and being scolded and mocked by the general mass as a bunch of traitors/spies/whatever you want to label them as? I understand this decision, good luck ex-ZH members. The alliance would have been too difficult given it's unfortunate foundation. Edited January 11, 2010 by Ejayrazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulchep Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 And continue living on and being scolded and mocked by the general mass as a bunch of traitors/spies/whatever you want to label them as?I understand this decision, good luck ex-ZH members. The alliance would have been too difficult given it's unfortunate foundation. Especially when the real culprits in all of this were able to escape completely unscathed, considering that they ran to hippy as their alliance was slaughtered around them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AUT Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 (edited) Especially when the real culprits in all of this were able to escape completely unscathed, considering that they ran to hippy as their alliance was slaughtered around them. Trying for one last defense, eh? Zero Hour never spied on Athens. The day before Zero Hour was launched DrunkMonkey told me in query that he picked Athens as protectors to get away from mhawk of whom he disagreed with. Maybe because of your grudges you decided to re-visit an idea 6 months later to get an alliance you had beef with killed. Pipe down and take your medicine. Edited January 11, 2010 by The AUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWConner Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Especially when the real culprits in all of this were able to escape completely unscathed, considering that they ran to hippy as their alliance was slaughtered around them. Kind of ironic considering ZH had no repercussions for their actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkMonkey Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Will TORN be next?In all seriousness though, I don't know why ZH escaped punishment in all of this, simply because they decided to come clean about it. Punishment still should have been handed out to ZH along with TPF. I guess disbandment is your punishment. Trust me, when we were told that we would not be attacked, I asked Londo straight up if he was sure. The reason we weren't ZI'd or punished in some fashion was because they felt it wouldn't be good to shoot the messenger, as it might set an example and prevent others from coming forward in the future. This flies in the face of the past precedent for handling spying on Planet Bob which we all know is ZI. I understand the logic behind their reasoning, but it was a mistake. We were guilty and should have been punished along side the others involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 First off, let me say that I understand why this happened. Second off, I want to say that I have enjoyed the short time I have worked with DM, Zulie and Ayrrie. Fine people, all of them. To be honest, I knew this would happen weeks ago. To those of you claiming they escaped punishment...you should learn what it is to have something you worked for, be left helpless and hopeless. In every measurable way, save for the loss of unimportant infrastructure that can be rebuilt....ZH has paid the ultimate price. And as such, in the views of everyone within Athens that I have spoken to, they walk away from us on even terms. And, we wish them all well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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