chefjoe Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Prove where RoK showed the intent maybe? I would say having a high gov advisor with a multi in at least one alliance certainly shows something WC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I believe the actions of a Triumvir speak for themselves as to the intent of the alliance. He wasn't a Tri at the time though. In fact, if Hoo or Alfred didn't know, it's really hard to implicate Rok for this. But whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighter26 Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I gotta state that such situations hopefully are taken care of by the hypocritical alliances that cause them. Good showing NATO/IRON/TOP, I hope that this spy did not cause serious damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill n ted Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Prove where RoK showed the intent maybe? Would you like the application thread that was made to IRON or the membership application made to NATO? or logs of the trouble he caused between NSO and TOP? All made by a RoK government adviser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krzyzewskiville Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) Prove where RoK showed the intent maybe? 1) He had a multi while a triumvir 2) He wasn't a triumvir while spying on NATO based on a 33-day seniority, but where was he before joining NATO? Was he spying on another alliance? Edited December 31, 2009 by SeasonsOfLove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWilliam Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 We ascertain the veracity of this information and will take steps that we deem necessary. I imagine all of CN is absolutely shaking in its boots hearing this. Poor showing on the part of Rishnokof, that's for sure. I imagine RoK wouldn't condone the infiltration of other alliances by its membership just as it didn't condone infiltration of its alliance by TPF. And with that the maneuvering continues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintenderek Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Prove where RoK showed the intent maybe? I don't think it matters. The fact that they've been going on and on about how bad spying is the last couple of days and declared war on TPF for spying six months ago, makes it very humorous if any member of RoK is caught spying, even if it's not condoned by the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke426 Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) End this war and compensate those they attacked? That's an idea. More leadership needs to be implicated before anything like that will even be considered. While the irony of a former Rok gov member being proved as a spy is great humor and terrible PR for them, all they have to do is say they disapprove and are glad that he's gone and they're mostly off the hook unless more gov members are implicated. Edit: Clarification Edited December 31, 2009 by Locke426 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulomascovia Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) Ragnarok existed without Van Hoo in charge for a long period of time. His return does not erase what happened before he was here.My suggestion was just an idea of what they could do, nothing more. I would say having a high gov advisor with a multi in at least one alliance certainly shows something WC... Note that the above actions did take place after Rishnokof stepped down from his government position. However, given Rishnokof's status as a very senior and longtime member in Ragnarok, we are suspicious that at the least a small number of Ragnarok's members of government were aware of his activities. We also find it unlikely that he would attempt infiltration of IRON and NATO if he did not intend to feed to his alliance whatever information he could glean from his access to the forums and IRC channels of those alliances---no doubt including, in the event, what information he could obtain regarding NATO's opinions, intentions and plans as regarded the currently-tense situation in the Cyberverse. Edited December 31, 2009 by kulomascovia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternos Astramora Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 1) He had a multi while a triumvir And that, as proven by RoK and Athens CB against TPF, implicates that they can be held accountable for it at any time in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurion Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 This is the mighty PR machine in action? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffyewunga Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 TPF's allies are really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Shut up and do something that requires a bit of balls instead of fabricating evidence. Since your allies in Polaris have helped provided this evidence in a small part are u also acussing them of fabrication? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin32891 Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 RoK: Its ok when we do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arentak Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) A really crazy one considering they have evidence on a single person that doesn't even implicate the alliance's leadership. I mean, what the hell? This is the great PR push? Can you read? Hello, he was gov. Edited December 31, 2009 by arentak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I don't think it matters. The fact that they've been going on and on about how bad spying is the last couple of days and declared war on TPF for spying six months ago, makes it very humorous if any member of RoK is caught spying, even if it's not condoned by the government. Not quite. If the leaders condone the spy, the alliance gets rolled. If not: The spy gets rolled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall14 Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Well you have a valid CB with no statue of limitations now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mussolandia Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 He wasn't a Tri at the time though. In fact, if Hoo or Alfred didn't know, it's really hard to implicate Rok for this. But whatever. Ah, the old, "I resign now I can do anything I want" (whilst I'm kept in the loop about everything) defense. Brings back memories of the old days. I never accepted it then and I don't accept it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krunk the Great Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 RoK: Its ok when we do it. Only because they're obviously the good guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin32891 Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) This is the mighty PR machine in action? Every alliance has a PR Machine. Edited December 31, 2009 by kevin32891 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 So wait, you have this smoking gun and you do nothing with it? Grow some balls and do something about it, Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Can you read? Hello, he was gov. Note that the above actions did take place after Rishnokof stepped down from his government position. Can you read your own evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorbolt Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I believe the actions of a Triumvir speak for themselves as to the intent of the alliance. Sure, if he was currently a Triumvir of the alliance. That would be equivalent to saying that Khyber's actions in ZDP speak for the intentions of TOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 The false flag operations dont appear to be the actions of a normal spy who usually tries to gather intel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintenderek Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Not quite. If the leaders condone the spy, the alliance gets rolled. If not: The spy gets rolled. The spy was a leader, so by default the leaders condone it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternos Astramora Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 So wait, you have this smoking gun and you do nothing with it? Grow some balls and do something about it, Christ. It's New Year's Eve. It's already been said that there will be no war for holiday's sake. Learn to read, Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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