king of cochin Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Let us keep OOC squabbles here. I invite Maelstrom to use this thread so that we may sort out a reasonable RP for the upcoming battles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 (edited) Dibs on the loser's land What's the CB? Edit: It appears you just want India Edited December 14, 2009 by Drakedeath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted December 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 (edited) Well I am going to mount a propaganda campaign about alleged human rights violations by Dragonisia. Also my special forces units infiltrated into Dragonisia would attack my trains going to Ratnagiri. I would allege this violation of the Ratnagiri Accord as the casus belli. In actual state of matters it is plain aggression and land grab, no moral arguments. However through propaganda a whole lot of moral arguments would be presented. Edit: Yeah, I just want India. I have a whole lot of RPS planned for India and I am willing to risk being rolled for that opportunity. Edited December 14, 2009 by king of cochin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 I will say one thing, I've always found it kinda funny how Dragonesia is in a country that doesn't have much dragon-related mythology. Not saying that effects anything, I just find it funny. <__< Good luck to both sides in the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted December 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 I had PMd mael about this a couple of days back and am giving him time until 25th to come and discuss about RPing the war , after which I shall continue anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 You realize if he asks for help, he's got good odds of getting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manetheren Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 So does Cochin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Mmhmm... Interesting. You'd bother to get involved in essentially a Non-American affair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavo Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 * Lavo checks his treaties Still got an ODP with Mael, whom I will defend. Also his last post was actually rather recent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserMelech Mikhail Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 (edited) Cochin, don't invade. I like you and Mael, and I don't want to see a fight. Edited December 14, 2009 by KaiserMelech Mikhail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Zoot Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 So does Cochin... ROFL that little terrorist emoticon made me laugh out loud like proper loud. i dont know why it just reminded me of millions of yellow faces with balaclavas donning AK47's storming indian beaches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 ROFLthat little terrorist emoticon made me laugh out loud like proper loud. i dont know why it just reminded me of millions of yellow faces with balaclavas donning AK47's storming indian beaches Well... Please stop, I'm laughing too hard. Anyway, this OOC thread is a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acca Dacca Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 I will most likely join the frey. The side matters on one thing only. That...my friends..is something you all should know by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted December 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 You realize if he asks for help, he's got good odds of getting it. I know!! But I think it would be worth the risk to attempt something like this as I so want to do many RPs based on India. So does Cochin... * Lavo checks his treatiesStill got an ODP with Mael, whom I will defend. Also his last post was actually rather recent. Yeah, his latest post was on dec 7th. The war is not about his inactivity, it is just that i would like to conquest for India. And I know that you would be involving, which is why I am already contemplating the extreme negative scenarios even before war starts!! Gotta foresee things, you know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted December 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Cochin, don't invade. I like you and Mael, and I don't want to see a fight. I know! And I like Mael too!! But I also very much want to RP in India and for this I am willing to risk my entire pixels so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 (edited) ooc:I don't want a war. Just because you want India because you live there is a poor and ooc motivation; especially one to have your characters attempt to justify an IC war upon. I told you, you do not see me trying to war for Kentucky do you? No. I play my characters as they would be. They love the land and people they live with as the heads of states do when representing their constituents. If you are the head of state of China.. you go to war for China. You do not go to war for Pakistan or India.. at least not because you want to BE there.. to LIVE there.. to rule there. If given any other option you'd want to live and represent your own people. That said, I protest the ground works for the reasoning for the war you wish to wage as I think they are very bad in terms of character logic, flawed in character principles. I don't want a war and I am active. I'm just quiet. Your allowance of ooc emotions to over-ride IC motive is the purest example and incarnation of Meta-gaming. Something we all here strive to avoid. If you engage in this war, it will be my last scene in CNRP. My enemies may appreciate it, but I will be gone from this community. I will not return. I kind-of like it here and playing with the folks here upon my own schedule, but I won't stay part of a broken community that allows any war for any reason. Also, let me make this very clear. None of your citizens in RP world of Bob are from India or any regions of India. Cochin (the region in India) is my territory and my citizens. So if your nation is a nation of migrants, it needs removed from the world map as no one migrated out of India during Dragonisia's rule which I believe is your assertion. My citizens, my destiny to determine as per the rules. So given that none of your citizens are recent Indian Ex-Patriots.. they would have no desire to live in India. Home is where they are now. Not saying they couldn't have been pre-Dragonisian Indians, but they did not migrate out of India during a time the Dragonisian state controlled the region. With the Dragonisian population shunning ex-patriots.. any perception of Dragonisia being a motherland or fatherland would have been long destroyed. They would not want to come back here. I have rarely been upset or angry with anyone in ooc and I am not upset or angry now; I just extremely strongly disagree with the formation of this role play on a conceptual level. While I understand your desires Cochin, I mean.. I'd love to play Kentucky; I still keep to my character and my role in the world of Bob. It doesn't sway my IC actions in the slightest. If you respect your peers, then please abide by the same standards and keep the love of the place you live out of respect for the place you play and the place you live. You also, as a person, represent your own people. I represent Kentuckians. I abide by the same restrictions and obligations as everyone else here. Do you? Does your love of your home in reality pre-empt ours to such an extent that you must breach the ooc/ic barrier in order to see that claim fulfilled while the rest of us keep ours in check? In IC we have been brothers and allies, and of late you have been manufacturing hostilities and events to meet your ooc needs to fulfill this claim with no root or cause in our actual IC relations. Edited December 15, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted December 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Well me and Mael had talked over Operation Van Zan in IRC and a new twist is in the offing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted December 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Well, since my positions have already been cleared up with MV, I am posting this to clear up any misunderstandings that may arise for a third party reading this. The Operation Van Zan was designed ,as MV , said for OOC reasons. I am an Indian and I really would love RPing India as my territory. However this war in no way reflects any OOC attitude I have against MV. He has been, is, and will always be a good friend of mine. This war had been conceptualized as a desperate , 11th hour attempt to wrest control of India, through a war of conquest based on an overtly flimsy IC rationale. I am willing to risk the destruction of my nation and permanent marring of any reputation I may have gained in CNRP. I know I am doing a nasty thing, but I acknowledge the nastiness of the deed in full realization of the possible repercussions. They are indeed very bad in terms of character logic, flawed in character principles. It was not an attempt to get rid of Dragonisia for ever, or to attempt to get rid of MV as a CNRP player. Matters could not be farther from the truth. AS regards my citizens, I RP a population of expats who emigrated from India countless years before Dragonisia came into being. My MRP nation I wanted to be a treatise on this exodus, unfortunately I could not find the time, creativity or energy to complete it. So if my nation was formed of descendants of people who migrated from India several centuries ago, they need not be non canon! Also it may not be completely true that exiles never seek to return home. Case in Point: Israel. Having made these points clear with MV, we had a long and detailed discussion by which we have come to terms that Operation Van Zan would be taking a new twist, a twist whose specifics would be decided only later on after further discussions. I hope any misunderstandings that has arisen here was settled through this explanation? If not.... Well.. Take care!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerreyRough Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 My best guess is that the twist is a merger. Its a good thing a inbetween point has been found. And with CNRP's awesome disreguard for real life and past history, you could always RP that your current region has always had Indian people since the dawn of man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acca Dacca Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 These are the times CNRP shines. When a mistake can be fixed, and worked on by both sides. Not dropped, no OOC complaining, and something unplanned grows into something that both can enjoy. I salute both of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) Well, I respect his love of his country. I also respect the fact I've diminished my activity here and he would like to see an active India. In offering a way to help him get what he wants without breaking the 4th wall of RP, I told him of my ideas for when I actually DID plan to fully leave the setting.. but we twisted it a bit so I don't have to. The story is to come. No more mergers for me. Edited December 16, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezequiel Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 You realize if he asks for help, he's got good odds of getting it. Hm... I am MDoAP'd to him, so yes. So does Cochin... Try me Mudd. I know!! But I think it would be worth the risk to attempt something like this as I so want to do many RPs based on India. Yeah, his latest post was on dec 7th. The war is not about his inactivity, it is just that i would like to conquest for India. And I know that you would be involving, which is why I am already contemplating the extreme negative scenarios even before war starts!! Gotta foresee things, you know! Please watch who you war with, I will defend the last for Dragonisia and if they means I must destroy you then so be it. I warn you to back off before you see glowing people and three headed fish. I urge you to please re-consider your agreement Mael, you have all the power you need to destroy his IC nation and I would rather you be here than imperialist and OOC motivated players such as King of Cochin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted December 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Hm... I am MDoAP'd to him, so yes.Try me Mudd. Please watch who you war with, I will defend the last for Dragonisia and if they means I must destroy you then so be it. I warn you to back off before you see glowing people and three headed fish. I urge you to please re-consider your agreement Mael, you have all the power you need to destroy his IC nation and I would rather you be here than imperialist and OOC motivated players such as King of Cochin. Thank you a lot for your vote of support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 (edited) Hm... I am MDoAP'd to him, so yes.Try me Mudd. Please watch who you war with, I will defend the last for Dragonisia and if they means I must destroy you then so be it. I warn you to back off before you see glowing people and three headed fish. I urge you to please re-consider your agreement Mael, you have all the power you need to destroy his IC nation and I would rather you be here than imperialist and OOC motivated players such as King of Cochin. Yeah he should really be afraid of someone only one third of his strength. Edited December 18, 2009 by Centurius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silhouette Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 ^ that, and they have already agreed that to a compromise, so there really is no need for ooc threats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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