King MyLife Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 o/ GGA o/ Echelon Congrats to both parties...May your friendship forever grow and prosper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Just so long as you both keep your guns to your own heads this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natas31 Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 make sure you wash and scrub well after touching this filth echelon. ^^^This.^^^ Also this is clearly a resurrection of One-Vision. Everyone knows GGA and Echelon were the leading powers of that bloc. All that talk of change *rubbish* - the new leaders of GGA & Echelon have clearly not taken anything learned from Karma to heart... How dare they re-new their friendship. They should be drawn and quartered - the whole lot of 1V. Never to admit friendship and even worse treaty themselves to any of the others again. What kind of world have we created ? Is this to be the legacy of Karma ? A GGA making its own decisions - where is the beloved Imperial Green Village ? o/ Echelon o/ GGA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 make sure you wash and scrub well after touching this filth echelon. ironic? Also @goon, Let them have their treaty. its good to keep the fail in one little corner away from the rest of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixoux Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 I have no problems with MADPs personally. Honestly, I expected to come in here and post some vague, yet demeaning potshot like all the cool kids, but I just can't find it in me. So all you'll get from me is a sincere congrats, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Well, two terrible alliances coming together, again. Have fun with one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Perry Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Good luck you two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Ain't like we're talking about Echelon and GGA at their height of power...so I don't honestly see what all the fuss is about. I will however offer my congratulations and hopes for a successful partnership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnCapistan Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 (edited) Interesting to see the fuss being raised over this. Congrats GGA & Echelon. make sure you wash and scrub well after touching this filth echelon. Your alliance never seemed to mind having 3 (4?) MADP's with them throughout your history. B) Edited November 28, 2009 by Mr Damsky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qaianna Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Ain't like we're talking about Echelon and GGA at their height of power...so I don't honestly see what all the fuss is about. I will however offer my congratulations and hopes for a successful partnership. Thank you for your best wishes, Chairman Hal. They are appreciated. As far as the perspective you seek ... well, one must take into consideration those whose sense of lulz have yet to advance past the opening of the Karma War. I'd say they were bitter at the result, but ... um ... Anyway, looking forward to maintaining the friendship and growing with you, Echelon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezequiel Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Congratulations amigos, I wish you both nothing but luck. Ironchef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeScepter Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Geez, it's like two fail alliances can't even touch tips in a corner without people pointing and laughing. And here I thought we were too irrelevant for anyone to notice or care wtf we do. Just goes to show that no matter how high-minded you'd like to be, you can't help but laugh when you see a retard fall down and hurt themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathias Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Just goes to show that no matter how high-minded you'd like to be, you can't help but laugh when you see a retard fall down and hurt themselves. I'm so glad you described this treaty that way. I heartily agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Can't say I'm fond of either alliance but if they wish to sign an MADP it's up to them. Hope it works out for you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoryproblems Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 (edited) You know, this being an MDAP rather then a MDoAP doesn't change a single thing. Not one. Echelon and GGA are such good friends, I don't forsee that there would ever be a situation where that optional clause would not be used. Being optional was so irrelavant, we decided to not even include it, why waste your time saying it will be optional when everybody knows that its not going to be invoked. Seems like common sense, giving you less to read so you can get on with your real life those filthy things you do while by yourself. Really, being an MDAP doesn't make a bit of difference to you, the only people that it should really matter to is the alliances signing, because they're the ones who are putting their balls in a clamp as a result, they're the ones assuming the risk and so forth. Echelon and GGA both appear confident enough with the other to take that risk, so instead of your mindless crying over nothing, why don't you do something constructive with your time, like washing your sheets. Edited November 28, 2009 by memoryproblems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtkode Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 (edited) You know, this being an MDAP rather then a MDoAP doesn't change a single thing. Not one. Echelon and GGA are such good friends, I don't forsee that there would ever be a situation where that optional clause would not be used. Being optional was so irrelavant, we decided to not even include it, why waste your time saying it will be optional when everybody knows that its not going to be invoked. Seems like common sense, giving you less to read so you can get on with your real life those filthy things you do while by yourself. Really, being an MDAP doesn't make a bit of difference to you, the only people that it should really matter to is the alliances signing, because they're the ones who are putting their balls in a clamp as a result, they're the ones assuming the risk and so forth. Echelon and GGA both appear confident enough with the other to take that risk, so instead of your mindless crying over nothing, why don't you do something constructive with your time, like washing your sheets. No the "o" doesn't matter because if one was to get rolled then the other would 99% probably get rolled along side that alliance...because people think this way: better to kill two (insert word here) with one stone, if you know what I'm saying. And if one was to attack another alliance, the "o" wouldn't matter either because you would end up attacking the SAME people anyway through different treaties. idrc, MADP's kinda mean that you guys are close but its not as strong as say the Non cancellation treaty between NPO and MHA, if you made it like that, then I would consider you guys bff's for life. Either way good liuck with friendship, because hey, everyone needs someone. Edited November 28, 2009 by Jtkode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoryproblems Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 (edited) No the "o" doesn't matter because if one was to get rolled then the other would 99% probably get rolled along side that alliance...because people think this way: better to kill two (insert word here) with one stone, if you know what I'm saying.And if one was to attack another alliance, the "o" wouldn't matter either because you would end up attacking the SAME people anyway through different treaties. idrc, MADP's kinda mean that you guys are close but its not as strong as say the Non cancellation treaty between NPO and MHA, if you made it like that, then I would consider you guys bff's for life. Either way good liuck with friendship, because hey, everyone needs someone. aye, as far as those "no-cancellation" treaties go, those are pretty hard-core, puts entirely too much stock in things of the present, it doesn't matter how strong current relations are, things will inevitably change, and sometimes for the worse. pre-war (and even today), Echelon has had treaties that date back before Echelon was formed, treaties originally signed by The Shadowhood. You hope that you will maintain friendships and that treaties will never need to be canceled, but its important to be able to take action should, god forbid, you grow apart. More then anything, it just amuses me to see people complain about other alliances doing something that they themselves don't have the balls to do. There isn't a single thing wrong with a MDAP, some people just don't trust their allies enough to take things that far. Echelon and GGA being that comfortable with one another is far from a weakness in my book. Edited November 28, 2009 by memoryproblems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat Pope Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 I like this therefor it has to be good. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 (edited) Gratz Freinds I dont know why people are judging them, its like you're asking them to take a beating, pay some reps and then make totally new circle of friends. i.e. in your sphere of influence or its same old fail. Judge the ex-hegemony with the actions post Karma war..this goes especially for BJ, and you'll see that their slates are cleaner than there moral overlords. I am glad the treaty is restored, if both parties do not cancel it willingly, it should and must remain. Edited November 28, 2009 by shahenshah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astronaut jones Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Nobody ever wants to activate these things, they are made and activated by necessity. Mutually assured destruction is determined by the ego of the aggressors, and sometimes their replacements. Rarely are the defenders objectionable to a cease fire. But if the aggressor is you, how will you assure that your ego is kept in check? You have more responsibility on your hands, the security and sanctity of not one, but two alliances? How will you ensure that peace is kept knowing all of this hangs above your head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Judge the ex-hegemony with the actions post Karma war..this goes especially for BJ, and you'll see that their slates are cleaner than there moral overlords. No-one's slate is really dirty post-Karma, except possibly Athens' or NSO's. But yes, there have been encouraging signs from GGA, which is why a re-signing of a Hegemonic treaty is surprising. I don't particularly mind that they are still friends, although they could have picked better , but when a treaty's forcibly cancelled it's a good opportunity to assess whether it's at the right level. Ironchef pretty much said earlier in the thread that the MADP was re-signed so as not to offend Echelon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timberland Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Congrats on the treaty I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaHusker Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Nobody ever wants to activate these things, they are made and activated by necessity. Mutually assured destruction is determined by the ego of the aggressors, and sometimes their replacements. Rarely are the defenders objectionable to a cease fire. Nonsense. People sign these things with the specific purpose of activating it at some point. If they didn't want to activate it, they wouldn't add it in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dejarue Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 I don't quite understand why everyone is so dead set against pure MADP treaties nowadays. Essentially, the only difference between MDoAP and MADP is that with the former, you have the option of getting beat down in a losing war. With the latter, getting beat down is mandatory.Nothing changes for a war that is won from the start. (Vast majority of aggressive wars) That's a uh... pretty big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steodonn Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Geez, it's like two fail alliances can't even touch tips in a corner without people pointing and laughing. And here I thought we were too irrelevant for anyone to notice or care wtf we do. Just goes to show that no matter how high-minded you'd like to be, you can't help but laugh when you see a retard fall down and hurt themselves. Stop trolling yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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