Markus Wilding Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I'm not sure though, that was always my understanding. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Anyone can have a reasonable amount of CM's, to their liking. There is no IG equivalent. IG CM counts are for special non-newcuelar weapons, like fuel-airs, chems, etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 But if it's expected of Lubeck to write where his troops are specifically, why not Martens? Both are surprise wars, and I hope that you aren't supporting double standards. Not supporting double-standards. I do think he should flesh out where everything is. However, the key is--it IS a surprise attack. He wasn't even OOCly expecting it so far as we know, so he has to remember where he put everything. Cruise missiles are equal to what you have IG. Not quite, I though we had a ruling a while back that IG cruise missiles equaled non-nuclear ICBMs a while back. Actually, the ruling was IG cruise missiles equal non-nuclear WMD's (i.e. chemical and biological weapons), and that there was no limit other than 'be reasonable' on RP cruise missiles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Anyone can have a reasonable amount of CM's, to their liking. There is no IG equivalent.IG CM counts are for special non-newcuelar weapons, like fuel-airs, chems, etc etc. Wait, Fuel-air bombs are included in that count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Thermobaric weapons are the most powerful non-nuclear weapons on the planet.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 And yet they aren't officially WMD's, are they? Chemical and bilogical weapons are... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Not supporting double-standards. I do think he should flesh out where everything is. However, the key is--it IS a surprise attack. He wasn't even OOCly expecting it so far as we know, so he has to remember where he put everything. Well that's what keeping a factbook is for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Well that's what keeping a factbook is for. Does he keep a factbook? I don't remember... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Does he keep a factbook? I don't remember... He made a military one right after the war started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted November 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 >>OOC: Thank you for the clarification. Important notice regarding my military losses: Since you have higher tech, I'll post my Losses Numbers to be relative to yours - that is, relatively higher, once you do post 'em, just so that we can keep a working ratio Understood. The ratio would 'officially' be 1:2.291, so I lose 1 man, you lose 2.291, but that's just a guideline. RP changes that, obviously. >>OOC: Are you sure your ETC artillery guns shouldn't have a higher range? I looked up some stuff and it is possible for my 210mm guns to have a theoretical range of up to 57km, same as you. You should have more of an advantage. I'm actually not sure. I just took the capabilities of the PzH2000 in reality without increasing it, because back then I didn't install ETC guns on my howitzers. Back when I was Singapore. (Using basically the same vehicle ftw) But by now I've slapped ETC guns on them, so, yeah. I probably forgot increasing their range. Normal tanks can fire ~4 kilometers with normal guns, ~8 km with using rockets in their barrels. Or rocket-assisted ammo, dunno exactly which. Anyways, I guess that'd mean a range of 90 kilometers of more, which really is...Well, a bit crazy, in fact. But hey, if you agree to it, they'll have that. >>OOC: Anti satellite weaponry. I thought that this was long banned from CNRP? Please reply on the other thread, of course. I distinctly remember Malatose using anti-sat missiles on several occasions, and nobody complained. I think it's satellite-base weaponry that's banned, not groundbased weapons to kill sats. >>OOC: Shooting down ALL of the CMs and ALL of the planes - AT ONCE? Come on... Sorry, I went overboard with that, I know (and I only realized when I was already in bed. Yay me). Of course not all CMs are shot down, but the planes are kind of easy targets; A single missile each or two, because passenger planes are made to be *seen* by radar, which in turn makes it easy to fire a guided missile. Meanwhile, I'd ask you to provide real ranges instead of "remarkable range" or "sufficient range". The modern Gepard Flakpanzer has a gun-range of 5.5 kilometers, for example, and most real AA guns don't reach further than 12 kilometers. If you don't provide ranges and more specific numbers, I'll go off IRL-counterparts. (And yes, even as statfreak such as me, you can still RP properly. See my posts in Fall Grau. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Seb Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Just a note, a while back I developed anti-sat missiles and no one complained, so I think that's in the clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 >>OOC: Shooting down ALL of the CMs and ALL of the planes - AT ONCE? Come on...Sorry, I went overboard with that, I know (and I only realized when I was already in bed. Yay me). Of course not all CMs are shot down, but the planes are kind of easy targets; A single missile each or two, because passenger planes are made to be *seen* by radar, which in turn makes it easy to fire a guided missile. Only thing I'll comment on. When things blow up in midair, heavy steel objects and various mechanical parts fall down. These tend to be very fatal. Plus, there's not the guarantee of getting a shattering hit. If you hit the tail, it still lands in a fiery burst of explosives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 (edited) What ARE ETC guns anyway? Edited November 25, 2009 by Subtleknifewielder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Lynneth has some trouble with his internet so can not access the forums normally at the moment. He will be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 What ARE ETC guns anyway? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrotherma...ical_technology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Seb Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Lynneth has some trouble with his internet so can not access the forums normally at the moment. He will be back. Alright, I won't post an attach until he is back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted November 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 (edited) Alright, I won't post an attach until he is back. Back now (for as long as my internet works with me. ) Only thing I'll comment on.When things blow up in midair, heavy steel objects and various mechanical parts fall down. These tend to be very fatal. Plus, there's not the guarantee of getting a shattering hit. If you hit the tail, it still lands in a fiery burst of explosives. Depends on where I shoot them down, of course. If I shot them over german territory or above their border walls, the planes wouldn't have damaged much. Also, it would've been impossible to steer them, so my men could've moved out of the way. It'd basically be like a normal planecrash, only faster and less controllable by the pilot. Edit: Also, Cody, lookit this post: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?s...t&p=1988652 Your troops are, due to you having below 1500 tech, about equal with Martens'. Unless you bought 300-500 more tech that I don't know of. Edited November 25, 2009 by Lynneth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Seb Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Back now (for as long as my internet works with me. )Depends on where I shoot them down, of course. If I shot them over german territory or above their border walls, the planes wouldn't have damaged much. Also, it would've been impossible to steer them, so my men could've moved out of the way. It'd basically be like a normal planecrash, only faster and less controllable by the pilot. Edit: Also, Cody, lookit this post: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?s...t&p=1988652 Your troops are, due to you having below 1500 tech, about equal with Martens'. Unless you bought 300-500 more tech that I don't know of. Oh, I forgot the tech scale switched. I still thought my tech efficiency was a lot higher than his though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrotherma...ical_technology Ah, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Martens Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 OOC: All clear for me. I'll be more specific, my only complaint is that my SAMs should have range enough to reach just about anything...only that since they are lower technology, their ratio of fire is forced to be smaller due to having to use the whole semi-guided business, which means that they're considerably less efficient than any SAM you may happen to use anyway. With this in mind, and agreeing with the rest, I'll go post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Martens Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Oh and, can a mod clarify whether if satellite-destroying weapons can be used or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 (edited) I'm not a mod or GM, but I can confirm that the ruling was only weapons based in space. You know, stuff like Rods from God. Edited November 26, 2009 by Subtleknifewielder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verum vox vocis Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 I'm not a mod or GM, but I can confirm that the ruling was only weapons based in space. You know, stuff like Rods from God. This is correct. Space-based weapons and weapons platforms are not permitted, just like lasers. However, Satellite-killing has been around for some time, and has never been banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Seb Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Could anyone here, preferably a GM, tell me what the new Navy rule is? Is there a multiplier or not, because if there is, I should have a larger amount of ships in the Baltic, not that it really matters, at least not yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 There's no multiplier, Cochin just wants to pretend he has like five times more submarines than he actually does. (and even if these is a multiplier it only applies to submarines for whatever reason) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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