king of cochin Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 We never realized that making bullies accountable for their actions was bullying in and of itself! So by your argument whenever a nation bullies a smaller nation, if the bullying nation were to be nuked, all is well? Is that the precedent you want to set? Any nation that bullies a smaller nation will be nuked with no further consequences. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 (edited) We're tending to agree with the rogue state.EDIT: They condemn us for being international bullies, when they themselves are attempting to force their rules upon us, by disarming the Furion military, and forcing us to turn over our leaders. How is that not hypocrisy? "You are clearly a destabilizing force in the world who cannot manage the simple task of securing your Strategic Assets from common rabble. Furthermore, there is a strong inclination to believe you ordered a large scale assault on a weak and feeble nation on a simple slight of tongue or whimsical notion. They are no more 'forcing' their rules on you as they are safe guarding the rest of the world from further belligerence, especially with their duly noted attempts of involving the world community in this matter. Furthermore, and with all due respect, you should be grateful that there is something left of Furon to 'force' rules on." Edited November 17, 2009 by Executive Minister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 They are calling for discipline against a bully, not for unwarranted actions. You do have to admit culpability on the missile attacks on Mandalore.Though we do know the nuke on Mandalore was not your fault, the other missiles were. We feel tired of needing to state the obvious, but once more we are forced to do it: The only missile that was launched from Furion silos, directed completely and wholly at Mandalore, was when our troops attacked a missile silo command center - forcing an operator to launch a missile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 "You are clearly a destabilizing force in the world who cannot manage the simple task of securing your Strategic Assets from common rabble. Furthermore, there is a strong inclination to believe you ordered a large scale assault on a weak and feeble nation on a simple slight of tongue or whimsical notion.They are no more 'forcing' their rules on you as they are safe guarding the rest of the world from further belligerence, especially with their duly noted attempts of involving the world community in this matter. Furthermore, and with all due respect, you should be grateful that there is something left of Furon to 'force' rules on." If Nod is so intent on serving justice, please, feel free to attack. We will make sure you are repaid in kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 If Nod is so intent on serving justice, please, feel free to attack. We will make sure you are repaid in kind. Justice has quite soundly been served, and in quite generous helpings we might add. We will not be baited by the same tactics used against Mandalore. Try harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 We are also greatly bemused that the Kingdom of Cochin has now being tarred with the brush of being a bully now that we have suggested a recourse against Furon. We find such mindlessness rather tragic, but we suppose that would be one of the potential effects of increased exposure of gamma rays to the cerebrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 We feel tired of needing to state the obvious, but once more we are forced to do it: The only missile that was launched from Furion silos, directed completely and wholly at Mandalore, was when our troops attacked a missile silo command center - forcing an operator to launch a missile. Sorry, but the weight of the evidence gathered from many nations around the world indicates otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Justice has quite soundly been served, and in quite generous helpings we might add. We will not be baited by the same tactics used against Mandalore. Try harder. So in your eyes, justice is the administration of several nuclear devices on our largest population centers, killing millions, and as a result, will kill more millions from the fallout and radiation, even with Zargathia assisting in clearing it? Your sense of justice is skewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 So in your eyes, justice is the administration of several nuclear devices on our largest population centers, killing millions, and as a result, will kill more millions from the fallout and radiation, even with Zargathia assisting in clearing it?Your sense of justice is skewed. Justice is served when your plight is duly noted by the world community at large. Let this be known to all who wish to follow in your (self) destructive footsteps. Do not mindlessly engage your strategic assets in a fit of wanton destruction, if you are not prepared to be engaged similarly. By becoming the aggressor, you gave an equally aggressive nation a 'reason', whether right or not, to engage you as they so desired. While casualties are indeed a sombering aspect, in the purely carnal and primal sense, you indeed reaped what you sowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 We find it hard to believe that some nations are unable to comprehend our very simple argument. The nuclear attack on Furon has to be seen as a separate crime from the missile attacks on Mandalore. The mass murder of Furion citizens is a graver crime than the conventional missile attacks on Mandalore. That however does not absolve Furon of its guilt. We would like to explain with an analogy for the more obstruse of world nations, "Consider an armed robbery. One robber keeps the shop keeper at gun point and robs him of his valuables. Another person seeing this shoots the robber , thus gravely injuring him." Just because the robber was shot by another criminal, does that negate his crime? Would he not be punished for his robbery? The shooter would undoubtably have to bear the greater punishment, however the robber would also have to be punished in accordance with his crimes." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 We find it hard to believe that some nations are unable to comprehend our very simple argument.The nuclear attack on Furon has to be seen as a separate crime from the missile attacks on Mandalore. The mass murder of Furion citizens is a graver crime than the conventional missile attacks on Mandalore. That however does not absolve Furon of its guilt. We would like to explain with an analogy for the more obstruse of world nations, "Consider an armed robbery. One robber keeps the shop keeper at gun point and robs him of his valuables. Another person seeing this shoots the robber , thus gravely injuring him." Just because the robber was shot by another criminal, does that negate his crime? Would he not be punished for his robbery? The shooter would undoubtably have to bear the greater punishment, however the robber would also have to be punished in accordance with his crimes." We find it hard in believing we will willingly disarm our military, hand over our leaders, while you attempt to exert your skewered justice upon a nation that doesn't even exist anymore. (OOC: Vostok) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 So essentially Furon is saying that whatever be the results of this investigation, it would have no effect on Furon. Furon would not recognize this investigation? Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 So essentially Furon is saying that whatever be the results of this investigation, it would have no effect on Furon. Furon would not recognize this investigation? Interesting. While we avoid your not so subtle hostility, we will point out that our military will not be disarming, our leaders will not be handed over, and we will enjoy as you attempt to scour the Earth for a nation that was destroyed long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Please do not misunderstand us. Our hostility is not towards Furon as a nation, it is rather towards all unilateral aggressors out there. If we were truly hostile to Furon as a nation would we volunteer to aid you, provide you relief materials in your times of dire need? If Furon shed its xenophobic outlook for a moment, it would realize that the world is in fact trying to help you. If Furon would read our proposal more carefully it would find that, while the disarmament would indeed be forced, during that time, Furon sovereignty would be guaranteed. We shall not let your weakened state be an opportunity for others to start aggression. Would not a protective force be in your best interest now, while you are coping with internal torments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalissimo Posted November 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 (edited) "With both Furon and Vostok in absolute ruin, some will likely ask why? Haven’t they suffered enough? Truth transcends tragedy. Truth for the sake of truth, an end onto itself. The next question is obvious, what should be done? Procinctia will partake in no action beyond the current investigation, it’s not Procinctia’s problem. This world now has the truth, what’s next is up to the world. Everything is now entirely out of my hands, I don’t have an agenda, and I personally don’t care. I would be more than satisfied letting Furon or Vostok’s current leadership limp along with their tentative grip on power, with treachery exposed known as pariahs of a world, forever knowing a special level of shame from having their subtle maneuverings exposed by a sixteen-year-old girl. While a dozen countries contributed and participated, I initiated and directed this informal international taskforce. . . That’s right you were beaten by a sixteen-year-old girl. Not an agency or international organization - but a sixteen-year-old girl." Edited November 17, 2009 by Generalissimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Please do not misunderstand us. Our hostility is not towards Furon as a nation, it is rather towards all unilateral aggressors out there. If we were truly hostile to Furon as a nation would we volunteer to aid you, provide you relief materials in your times of dire need?If Furon shed its xenophobic outlook for a moment, it would realize that the world is in fact trying to help you. If Furon would read our proposal more carefully it would find that, while the disarmament would indeed be forced, during that time, Furon sovereignty would be guaranteed. We shall not let your weakened state be an opportunity for others to start aggression. Would not a protective force be in your best interest now, while you are coping with internal torments? First half: Our 'xenophobic outlook' is due to the fact that we are extremely weary of nations, especially those that we do not trust, when we are in such a weakened state. Second half: So, essentially, you would like us to be sovereign, and have no military what so ever, under the guidance of Cochin? The term puppet, comes to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 First half: Our 'xenophobic outlook' is due to the fact that we are extremely weary of nations, especially those that we do not trust, when we are in such a weakened state.Second half: So, essentially, you would like us to be sovereign, and have no military what so ever, under the guidance of Cochin? The term puppet, comes to mind. Cochin? When did we ever say we would be stewards of your sovereignty? If such an administration were ever to be set up, it would have to be a completely neutral body, with strong representatives from all the responsible power blocs of the world. We are saddened at this insinuation. Kingdom of Cochin and Furon can not be called friends, however we need not be enemies either. It is a common fact that we have opposing strategic aims. If we were indeed to make a puppet out of Furon would we suggest nations much more powerful than us and never allied to us as being guarantors of your sovereignty? If you would consider our proposal we had called upon Phoenix Empire, one of Furon's closest allies to be an adjudicator also. Would we ever do that if we wanted Furon as a puppet? We implore upon Furon to shed the xenophobic outlooks on any actions outside of Japan and try to see situations with more rationality, sagacity and intelligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 "Don't try to reason with them, these are men who launched missiles because of a petty disagreement at an unarmed nation, only now they are suffering from radiation poisoning as well. They brought it upon themselves, and it's obvious the leaders of Furon are nothing but immature brats who want to carry a big stick." -President Uberstein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutai Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 " As Michuraza is a proud member of the AUP, we would like if the leader of AUP the nation of SST would give their opinion on this matter towards Furon, because it seem's right now that their actions were unjust and is need of fixing". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Keshav IV Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 (edited) " As Michuraza is a proud member of the AUP, we would like if the leader of AUP the nation of SST would give their opinion on this matter towards Furon, because it seem's right now that their actions were unjust and is need of fixing". "Are you serious? Do you really wish to bring in a REGIONAL BLOC into issues this BLOC really has no concern for?" Edited November 17, 2009 by Sir Keshav IV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 " As Michuraza is a proud member of the AUP, we would like if the leader of AUP the nation of SST would give their opinion on this matter towards Furon, because it seem's right now that their actions were unjust and is need of fixing". Since Michuraza and SST has vested interests against that of Furon they may not be able adjudicate judiciously in this matter. However seeing as Furon does not seem willing to acknowledge its responsibility in the bombing of Mandalore, we are doubtful if the criminals responsible in Mandalorean bombing would ever be brought to justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 "The HRE finds the behaviour of Furon silly. That is all." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 "The HRE finds the behaviour of Furon silly. That is all." At least the HRE can go about things without forcing us to disarm our military and turn over our leaders. /applaud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 At least the HRE can go about things without forcing us to disarm our military and turn over our leaders./applaud "You're in Asia. We have no business over there." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 While the Empire strongly condemns the attacks by Furon our obligations stand. Do not try to use the weakened state and bad foreign policy to attack them or we WILL interfere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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